So i get to House zu Heltzer and i begin to do my primary quests. i complete them all and dont know what to do next. so i complete the defend fort aspenwood mission, move on to jade quarry and it is complelety empty on every district american and international. is this mission not compulsory or what because it seems like not many people want to do it?
Because of the lack of people i also cannot get in the mission i stood there for 1 hour trying to enter it but i couldnt.
Why is Jade Quarry so damn empty?
xb0vv
wilebill
Same here. The npc will give you instructions on what to do, but the one time I did get in the entire group ran off in different directions. I was totally confused. Good place to be if just standing around is your thing.
generik
Many people has probably quit GW.. at the very least I do know of at least 15 friends who have finally called it quits.
I will give them probably up to C4 to see how it goes, but even then if Anet doesn't buck up I will probably just find something else too.
I will give them probably up to C4 to see how it goes, but even then if Anet doesn't buck up I will probably just find something else too.
dekboi
Jade Quarry is not a comulsary mission and it only provides about 300 faction for a win. So people don't bother with it.
NinjaKai
Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood aren't required to complete the game.
Red
Sometimes, you will get more faction for LOSING at Fort Aspenwood than you will for winning Jade Quarry. Thus, many people do not see Jade Quarry as worth the effort.
*glances at generik's post* I'm sure there are other factors at play here, too...
*glances at generik's post* I'm sure there are other factors at play here, too...
Quinn Falcon
Wonder if people will ever start playing jade quarry for fun once the faction grabbing rush settles down, seems a shame not to even use the mission built for us.
Besides I'm curious as to how long your average match takes in the quarry, 'cos fort aspenwood is pretty lengthy (for a kurzick win anyway). So even at 300 faction the quarry may be comparable if it's alittle faster in general.
Heh and you're too kind Redly, I'm pretty sure it's entirely due to other factors rather than a decline in GW population, but I suppose frustration can skew things either way.
Besides I'm curious as to how long your average match takes in the quarry, 'cos fort aspenwood is pretty lengthy (for a kurzick win anyway). So even at 300 faction the quarry may be comparable if it's alittle faster in general.
Heh and you're too kind Redly, I'm pretty sure it's entirely due to other factors rather than a decline in GW population, but I suppose frustration can skew things either way.
Parson Brown
I've only been able to get in Jade Quarry once, and no one knew what to do (myself included).
Aspenwood is getting tough to enter as well.
First, every area after Cavlon/HzH seems pretty dead.
Second, (sit down for this) most of the PvE crowd doesn't like PvP all that much. So Aspenwood/JQ becomes something to do for a hoot once in a while, like RA.
Aspenwood is getting tough to enter as well.
First, every area after Cavlon/HzH seems pretty dead.
Second, (sit down for this) most of the PvE crowd doesn't like PvP all that much. So Aspenwood/JQ becomes something to do for a hoot once in a while, like RA.
Cymmina
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Originally Posted by Quinn Falcon
Besides I'm curious as to how long your average match takes in the quarry
I think it is restricted to 20 minutes. The faction reward seems to be a multiple of however many points your team gets (maybe 30 * total_points). So if your team doesn't do a good job of getting resources, you get a crap reward.
Big_Iron
I went there twice yesterday. First time there was only one other person, the second time there was a whopping three people. It's dead. I'd like to try it just once though.
llsektorll
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Originally Posted by generik
Many people has probably quit GW.. at the very least I do know of at least 15 friends who have finally called it quits.
I will give them probably up to C4 to see how it goes, but even then if Anet doesn't buck up I will probably just find something else too. a little of topic but...
few poeple that i know have quit are on break. GW is just too good for no monthly fee. What most people don't understand is to fully get enjoyment out of this game you will need...
A. a microphone
B. a pvp guild
C. some friends in game
D. not suck at pvp
what i mostly see is pvers that leave this game to go play WoW.... but competitive poeple stay work on becoming famous on top100s....
what i also find surprising is the amout of FPS players in GW... i guess all the hardcore mmorpg players went to cough up some cash for WoW... and ive herd their pvp sucks... anyways back to FPS part ... fans of squad based shooters have a lot to find in common with all the team based battles and your reliance on not your own skill but the skill of your teammates as well.
its hard to get into pvp but once your in you really know where the enjoyment of this game comes from... i hope ur friends are having as much fun as i am in gw...
I will give them probably up to C4 to see how it goes, but even then if Anet doesn't buck up I will probably just find something else too. a little of topic but...
few poeple that i know have quit are on break. GW is just too good for no monthly fee. What most people don't understand is to fully get enjoyment out of this game you will need...
A. a microphone
B. a pvp guild
C. some friends in game
D. not suck at pvp
what i mostly see is pvers that leave this game to go play WoW.... but competitive poeple stay work on becoming famous on top100s....
what i also find surprising is the amout of FPS players in GW... i guess all the hardcore mmorpg players went to cough up some cash for WoW... and ive herd their pvp sucks... anyways back to FPS part ... fans of squad based shooters have a lot to find in common with all the team based battles and your reliance on not your own skill but the skill of your teammates as well.
its hard to get into pvp but once your in you really know where the enjoyment of this game comes from... i hope ur friends are having as much fun as i am in gw...
monkey grip
i remember the fire islands being this bad when prophecies came out, it just takes time for some to get to those missions, not everyone who plays is hell bent on getting to the end as fast as possible.
SirShadowrunner
I am wondering where everybody is to, I have heard alot of ppl here and
in-game say, well the majority of the crowd has just not made it this far
yet. I don't believe that, there were alot of ppl in Prophecies, where are
they?? I have been all across the map doing checks and it is just not as
filled up as Prophecies was.
For comparasion, THK in Prophecies almost always had 2 dis usually 3 full
of ppl complaining/augueing about the mission, it was a major stopping
point/tough spot to get past in the game.
Now I go to Gayla Hatchery or Arborstone(although Arborstone is not as
empty as GH) and there might be 10 ppl there, I spent a week going there on
and off looking for a pug with my assassin before finally getting thru.
Kind of saddening, hence why I believe Factions was designed to pull the
pve crowd into pvp more, than vice-versa, guess I might have to try and
get some rank to play with real ppl.
Call me noob boy all over again now..........*sigh*
in-game say, well the majority of the crowd has just not made it this far
yet. I don't believe that, there were alot of ppl in Prophecies, where are
they?? I have been all across the map doing checks and it is just not as
filled up as Prophecies was.
For comparasion, THK in Prophecies almost always had 2 dis usually 3 full
of ppl complaining/augueing about the mission, it was a major stopping
point/tough spot to get past in the game.
Now I go to Gayla Hatchery or Arborstone(although Arborstone is not as
empty as GH) and there might be 10 ppl there, I spent a week going there on
and off looking for a pug with my assassin before finally getting thru.
Kind of saddening, hence why I believe Factions was designed to pull the
pve crowd into pvp more, than vice-versa, guess I might have to try and
get some rank to play with real ppl.
Call me noob boy all over again now..........*sigh*
IllusiveMind
Gayla Hatchery? God I had to Henchie that mision...Took me 3 tries until I discovered the alternative method.
Gmr Leon
*Gyala
Anyway,I've seen quite a few empty towns around the Jade Sea,the Jade Quarry included.Though the emptiest town I've seen would have to be...*checking map*.
Anyway,I've seen quite a few empty towns around the Jade Sea,the Jade Quarry included.Though the emptiest town I've seen would have to be...*checking map*.
Hockster
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
What most people don't understand is to fully get enjoyment out of this game you will need...
B. a pvp guild
D. not suck at pvp Completely and absolutely not true.
B. a pvp guild
D. not suck at pvp Completely and absolutely not true.
Mistical miss
alternative method for gyala? never tried 
I failed it once made it second try, arborstone, done at once (with a ritualist healer and 1 monk, 3 assassin ftw :P)
Guess it depends on the team you get in, I prefer leading, even though I haven't done the mission yet. Just keep calling and warning, complement other players that makes them stick to your words. "Nice interrupt there, it probably saved our lives" or "You are definetly the first assassin ever to deal such a high spike to several enemies and survive to tell the tale"
stuff like that, it makes the ppl in the team be happy which is a great help in succeeding
I failed it once made it second try, arborstone, done at once (with a ritualist healer and 1 monk, 3 assassin ftw :P) Guess it depends on the team you get in, I prefer leading, even though I haven't done the mission yet. Just keep calling and warning, complement other players that makes them stick to your words. "Nice interrupt there, it probably saved our lives" or "You are definetly the first assassin ever to deal such a high spike to several enemies and survive to tell the tale"
stuff like that, it makes the ppl in the team be happy which is a great help in succeeding
Nilator
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Originally Posted by llsektorll
a little of topic but...
What most people don't understand is to fully get enjoyment out of this game you will need...
A. a microphone
B. a pvp guild
C. some friends in game
D. not suck at pvp Quite frankly, I'll admit I suck at PvP, my guild does not PvP that often, and I am almost never in my guild's TeamSpeak server. So, a mic, a pvp guild, and being good at PvP have nothing do to with how much fun one will have while playing Guild Wars.
What most people don't understand is to fully get enjoyment out of this game you will need...
A. a microphone
B. a pvp guild
C. some friends in game
D. not suck at pvp Quite frankly, I'll admit I suck at PvP, my guild does not PvP that often, and I am almost never in my guild's TeamSpeak server. So, a mic, a pvp guild, and being good at PvP have nothing do to with how much fun one will have while playing Guild Wars.
Mustache Mayhem
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Originally Posted by Mistical miss
alternative method for gyala? never tried I failed it once made it second try, arborstone, done at once (with a ritualist healer and 1 monk, 3 assassin ftw :P)
Guess it depends on the team you get in, I prefer leading, even though I haven't done the mission yet. Just keep calling and warning, complement other players that makes them stick to your words. "Nice interrupt there, it probably saved our lives" or "You are definetly the first assassin ever to deal such a high spike to several enemies and survive to tell the tale"
stuff like that, it makes the ppl in the team be happy which is a great help in succeeding yeah pump up thier balls
I failed it once made it second try, arborstone, done at once (with a ritualist healer and 1 monk, 3 assassin ftw :P) Guess it depends on the team you get in, I prefer leading, even though I haven't done the mission yet. Just keep calling and warning, complement other players that makes them stick to your words. "Nice interrupt there, it probably saved our lives" or "You are definetly the first assassin ever to deal such a high spike to several enemies and survive to tell the tale"
stuff like that, it makes the ppl in the team be happy which is a great help in succeeding yeah pump up thier balls
Infinite Minds
i would like to see some people use jade quarry, mainly becuase NO ONE DOES i cant even get a group just to c what its like more or less find out from anyone else
ETSubmariner
You may be seeing more very soon as ppl get disgusted with Aspenwood on the Kurzick side. Since the skill updates, Kurzick side is now on the receiving end of a thorough butt kicking more regularly. People will either learn new tactics and/or just give up and scoot on over to Jade.
Before the patch, I saw 9 out of 10 wins all the time. Since then? 1 outa 10. I've changed tactics, and some ppl seem to be catching on. Killing priests and commanders in a 1 or 2 man hit squad (hell, my lightening-in-a-bottle-rit kills em in short order by himself) helps, as long as ppl are running amber and *hopefully* warriors are making the Luxons waste time on them.
Or to hell with warriors. Go rit. Had a group of 5 rits once, a couple of rangers, and that was the only game that night that saw the device at 90%.
Before the patch, I saw 9 out of 10 wins all the time. Since then? 1 outa 10. I've changed tactics, and some ppl seem to be catching on. Killing priests and commanders in a 1 or 2 man hit squad (hell, my lightening-in-a-bottle-rit kills em in short order by himself) helps, as long as ppl are running amber and *hopefully* warriors are making the Luxons waste time on them.
Or to hell with warriors. Go rit. Had a group of 5 rits once, a couple of rangers, and that was the only game that night that saw the device at 90%.
Cymmina
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Originally Posted by ETSubmariner
Since the skill updates, Kurzick side is now on the receiving end of a thorough butt kicking more regularly.
What does the skill changes have to do with winning or losing at Fort Aspenwood? Nothing. The changes affected everyone. I highly doubt you've been doing the mission very often if you think skill changes had some magical, non-existant impact on it.
ETSubmariner
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Originally Posted by Cymmina
What does the skill changes have to do with winning or losing at Fort Aspenwood? Nothing. The changes affected everyone. I highly doubt you've been doing the mission very often if you think skill changes had some magical, non-existant impact on it.
Been doing it since the beginning with now 5 different characters on a daily basis. As a whole, people are seeing more loses now since (exactly) the update happened, and are making their voices heard - the changes are having an impact as people used to a certain logical effect aren't seeing the same results in PvE and PvP. Changing tactics to get the intended result is the point.
Either way, skill change vs tactic change is a hackneyed and now useless argument, so we'll continue on with the thread that Jade Quarry will likely see more people.
I'd rather like to try Jade Quarry at least once. Only then can you call me a noob of the Quarry!
Either way, skill change vs tactic change is a hackneyed and now useless argument, so we'll continue on with the thread that Jade Quarry will likely see more people.
I'd rather like to try Jade Quarry at least once. Only then can you call me a noob of the Quarry!