PC: 14% Unconditional Serpent & 15% Unconditional Dwarven

I am looking for a pc on the following items: -


Not 15>50 serpent



No I dont own them but would like to own either.

Here is the link to the original thread: -

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89574


What slightly concerns me with these items is that they both have zealous or vampiric mods on. The trully unconditional weapons look like this (my hammer ): -



It has been claimed the negative is merely hidden and is still present. So would I be right in saying that it would either be -2 energy regen or -2 health regen?

Or is it just -1 energy regen or -1 health regen?

Also does anyone know if a different hilt was added would the negative condition appear or disappear?

Who the hell owns them? I have asked around in-game and a few people have said nef.

A price for them is much appreciated. I guess if -1 regen it would be alot more than if -2. I dont really care about either as I want to own something disgustingly rare and a piece of Guild Wars history before I take a break from Guild Wars.

This is more for old school peeps to comment on as they were around back when stuff like this was being discussed so can hopefully help.

I'm not an old school GW player but I know one thing. The zealous probably hides the condition like you said. Why are they zealous otherwise ?
That warhammer is indeed unconditional for sure, I have seen it before here on Guru.
Few people will know the real answers. I missed a lot of great GW players here, too bad I only started half a year ago :'(

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3045686
this is an 13% unconditional longbow ( max dmg) and it goes up to 900k, so these items...
+ the only way this to see if it was the vampiric or zealus mod is remove it... i don't see a clue in this... glitch or new update?? (never seen one before factions)

mmm , mysterios !
well if these first 3 weapons are truly unconditional !! ( IMMPOSSIBLE )) !! it surely will go for 100000000 .... 100 million .... and m not kidding about that !especially the first one !

From what I've heard, these were nerfed a long time ago, but I'm not 100% on that. As far as prices, something like a first born child would probably be fair for either the 1st serpent or the dwarven

You are kidding, no one has 100 million, The dwarven would sell for more, but its been customized.

oo yeah, if i remember correctly by someone in iq and it had an icy mod on it. Myabe changing mods does work...

yeah i've seen the dwarven somewhere else too with different mods and it was customized... and I dont see how you can price any of these it'd take a fortune to buy

well if i had these ill prolly sell em for real money lol

If i had these i would customize them, as nothing in this game is worth selling them for. They are one of very very few items that give and edge in pvp (although it is incredibly slight), along with the 15% FFS and the HoD axe. If i stopped playing the game, I would simply sell the account with the customized items on them for an obscene amount of money.

serpant 5mill

dwarvern 10-15mill

akh would topple most in the bidding stakes tho..since all the big ebayers quit..

the zealous mod does not hide any negative condition. if there were a negative such as energy regen -1 for example, it would say so in the item description. that means you'd see:

zealous serpent axe of axe mastery
slashing dmg: 6-28 (req 8 axe mastery)
damage +14%
energy regeneration -1
axe mastery +1 (15% chance)
energy gain on hit: 1
energy regeneration -1

also, from the order of the mods in the item description, you can tell that the zealous haft was added on after the axe mastery grip, erasing the previous haft (if any), and that it wasn't id'ed with a zealous mod which some are suggesting could possibly "hide" the negative condition of the damage bonus.

btw, if you can convince the owner of that serpent to salvage it for the zealous haft, i'd be very interested in purchasing the upgrade.

there is still 1 axe that I know that is unconditional

sephis axe
6-28(req 9)
+15always


that hasn't been customized, Spinal Reaper was crying about it because someone else beat him to the buying of it, the player who has it still plays a little but not much, I won't tell you guys his name but some of you might no of whom i'm speaking of.

herb u wanna recruit me im guildless again lol

I believe Booty Hunter got that one

sure, i have only just made it as i want a guild of my own so need to recruit some people lol. it will hardly be the most exciting guild due to being new but your welcome to join when i get a ton of people or now if you want. officer positions for everyone i know so you can spam alliance chat

I was thinking possibly it came say fire serpent dmg +14% -1 energy regen +1 axe. then the person added zealous which due to being bugged became just one -1 energy. I have seen some pic on here with some guy with like 10 of these weps (zealous/vamp). what i find confusing is if it can be "safely" removed why have people not done it to make them unconditional. maybe after the two weeks from release it didnt work due to being patched so people were stuck with their zealous / vamp ones. i think part of the glitch was it did hide the negative which was the problem and reason why it was prevented in future.

maybe im being paranoid but it seems there is a massaive zealous and vamp fetish

zealous is awesome, it's all i use these days really.
and what else are you gonna have on your weapons? sundering? LMAO

yea send an invite when ya log on

dont insult the sundering. we all know it is the best mod available.

sundering > all other mods

i am deadly serious too

will do. i need to go bed though as i have a massive headache from all day drinking in the sun >.<

zealous>vamp>furious>sundering

zealous is kinda bad sometimes if your playin a shock warrior as it does nothing against exaust