ANET are really beginning to bug me at the moment. Its not that they are bad devolpers but they need to buck there ideas up
ANET are more interested in releasing more Chapters than take their time on the following chapters already out. I would much rather they updated on the following chapters than leave them alone, half bugged and continue with another shoddy chapter. There are still many things that ANET need to add to the games which people have been wanting for about a year now, the most obvious one being an update on the trade system or an auction house.
If they don't make these small but IMPORTANT updates I think i may lose interest in guild wars.
If you look on the faction map you will notice high amounts of the map have not been used. I would much rather see these area's taken into account so they can add those few new area's, than leave them alone and make the game look rushed. The Icons also look rushed and look like they were drawn on MS Paint.
All I'm asking for is ANET to spend more time on updates and less time on there chapters. One chapter every 6 months is not needed and too rushed. They should spend there time on the chapters and make them as fun and full filling as prophecies was. Maybe one chapter every year or so.
Thank you for reading my thoughts, please reply comments if needed.
More Chapters, Less Updates....
Siddious
Loki Seiguro
yes i have the same thoughts as you. the factions map is very small and i would also like to see the entire map filled up. Factions is much like the first one imo. if you spend about the entire day playing it you could finsh the game.
also i heard that Anet is planning on releaseing 2 new GW games every year - i don't like the sound of that..also i think that Anet should some how retrict people from being able to skip over the prophocies campiegn. It is very annoying have to redo evry mission a couple hundred times becuase all yopu have to choose from are noobs (sry if this offends ppl) or the bots which are dumber then every. - it takes about 5 minutes before the monk henchie or rit hench to being to rez you.
ty for reading my thoughts as well....
also i heard that Anet is planning on releaseing 2 new GW games every year - i don't like the sound of that..also i think that Anet should some how retrict people from being able to skip over the prophocies campiegn. It is very annoying have to redo evry mission a couple hundred times becuase all yopu have to choose from are noobs (sry if this offends ppl) or the bots which are dumber then every. - it takes about 5 minutes before the monk henchie or rit hench to being to rez you.
ty for reading my thoughts as well....
Ole Man Bourbon
I wish they'd do something drastic with the combat mechanic--adding hundreds of new skills, additional attributes, maybe a third class per toon. . . something to make the game new without having to really add a lot of meat.
TheMosesPHD
Hmmz. It'd be nice if things were fixed, but at the same time when I've played through the game over 6 times I sort of stop caring. I'd rather they keep releasing content than nit-picking old content.
Evilsod
Didn't you know? Anet decided to scrap updates at the end of Prophecies. Instead they're just gonna release a new chapter and update things with that.
Perhaps they'll have our extra storage space and updated armour in time for Chapter 4?
Perhaps they'll have our extra storage space and updated armour in time for Chapter 4?
Ork Pride
when i first beat the game, in 1 day and a few hours, i was VERY angry.
at first i wanted to choke jeff strain, but then i realized they might add more updates like sorrows furnace types, i remembered them saying we will only get that update once.
2 games a year? good job anet, you can count on not having my 50$ for everygame your supposed to make.
If i remember correctly, factions was supposed to be better than WoW and its expansion Burning Crusade. Anet your game isnt better than any other game atm.
at first i wanted to choke jeff strain, but then i realized they might add more updates like sorrows furnace types, i remembered them saying we will only get that update once.
2 games a year? good job anet, you can count on not having my 50$ for everygame your supposed to make.
If i remember correctly, factions was supposed to be better than WoW and its expansion Burning Crusade. Anet your game isnt better than any other game atm.
Theos
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when i first beat the game, in 1 day and a few hours, i was VERY angry.
at first i wanted to choke jeff strain, but then i realized they might add more updates like sorrows furnace types, i remembered them saying we will only get that update once. 2 games a year? good job anet, you can count on not having my 50$ for everygame your supposed to make. If i remember correctly, factions was supposed to be better than WoW and its expansion Burning Crusade. Anet your game isnt better than any other game atm. |
Ork Pride
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And they don't expect you to buy every one of their chapters; thats simple marketing. How you compare this to WoW is beyond me but ok... can we stop comparing games that are nigh in the same genre?
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no we cant, because alot of people think gw is better than wow, and wow is better than gw.
Loki Seiguro
ok before that comment goes any farther of some WoW vs GW thing again...
i'd prefer that they make factions not able to be a totally second account buit only able to add on to an existing account as in proph. but then again most poepl will buy both add it on and only play factions....so no real way to fix that...and anyway Anet isnt getting any of my money im lucky enoiugh to have a friend that buys games and iof he doesnt like them sell them cheap so if anything he is the one getting my money lol (just a little side note)
i'd prefer that they make factions not able to be a totally second account buit only able to add on to an existing account as in proph. but then again most poepl will buy both add it on and only play factions....so no real way to fix that...and anyway Anet isnt getting any of my money im lucky enoiugh to have a friend that buys games and iof he doesnt like them sell them cheap so if anything he is the one getting my money lol (just a little side note)
Siddious
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Didn't you know? Anet decided to scrap updates at the end of Prophecies. Instead they're just gonna release a new chapter and update things with that.
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Mr_T_bot
The more half-assed chapters made with the fewer and fewer game updates, the less people are going to keep buying it.
Ork Pride
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ok before that comment goes any farther of some WoW vs GW thing again...
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Dr Strangelove
misread the post, nevermind
guppy
I don't like how they plan to update things when Ch. 3 comes.. whats stopping them from using the same psycology with the later chapters? I mean, I suppose we deserve this since we don't pay to play.. but it still bugs me such a good game doesn't get some good updates. I mean, will they continue to rely on outside sources for voice chat which seems so crucial for pvp? Sorry, I didn't read anywhere when I bought the game that remaining competitive required someone have a server or pay for a voice chat feature through outside sources.
It seems sort of embarrasing that a game of this stature doesn't have the tools it needs to support itself (perhaps the game developers aspired too much and can't create features due to lack of funding? Should the game be pay to play to ensure features that seem necessary?). Trading in this game is possibly the worst system that I have ever seen (seriously, take a look at some other games and how they deal with it). There are many other core issues that can be attended to, and would almost guarantee a more successful future for guild wars. The only thing that worries me is if paying to play is the reason they cannot create additional content?
It seems sort of embarrasing that a game of this stature doesn't have the tools it needs to support itself (perhaps the game developers aspired too much and can't create features due to lack of funding? Should the game be pay to play to ensure features that seem necessary?). Trading in this game is possibly the worst system that I have ever seen (seriously, take a look at some other games and how they deal with it). There are many other core issues that can be attended to, and would almost guarantee a more successful future for guild wars. The only thing that worries me is if paying to play is the reason they cannot create additional content?
Ork Pride
you basically are paying, just 50$ every 6 months. just like rent.
except you dont have 2 pay every 6 months
except you dont have 2 pay every 6 months
Kalki
Uh...
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/
13 updates since April 27th, which is when the FPE began. Thirteen! Why are you complaining about this?
Want to know when the last WoW patch was? Taken from www.patchtimer.org
"Since the last content patch on 3/28/2006 at 2:00 PM EDT, it has been:
68 days, 2 hours and 4 minutes"
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/
13 updates since April 27th, which is when the FPE began. Thirteen! Why are you complaining about this?
Want to know when the last WoW patch was? Taken from www.patchtimer.org
"Since the last content patch on 3/28/2006 at 2:00 PM EDT, it has been:
68 days, 2 hours and 4 minutes"
Ork Pride
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Uh...
http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/ 13 updates since April 27th, which is when the FPE began. Thirteen! Why are you complaining about this? Want to know when the last WoW patch was? Taken from www.patchtimer.org "Since the last content patch on 3/28/2006 at 2:00 PM EDT, it has been: 68 days, 2 hours and 4 minutes" |
Dont ruin a perfectly fine thread.
Loviatar
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All I'm asking for is ANET to spend more time on updates and less time on there chapters. One chapter every 6 months is not needed and too rushed. Maybe one chapter every year or so.
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please crawl back under your rock of ignorance or actually find out what you speak of.2 separate staggered teams
is that clear?
Factions started April 28 of 05 and has had your one year of work on it.
CLEAR?
chapter 3 was started by the chapter 1 team 6 months after the release of GW in Oct/Nov 05 and will be released with a full year of work this (Oct/Nov) of this year (06)
chapter 4 was started by the switch team on the release of Factions which will have a full year of work and be released on the 2nd aniversary (April 26 07) of GW
Evilsod
Kalki, how many things does WoW need updating? And how many things does GW still need updating? I don't care if we've had 13 updates since the 27th April, none of them have been of the slightest benefit beyond sorting out the retarded AI in Factions. Once they pull there finger out and update our storage and our armour, then i will give them the benefit of the doubt.
So far the ONLY thing they've updated recently that has affected me even slightly (since i don't have Factions) has been the improvements made to Dwaynas Kiss and Vigorous Spirit, Kiss been now imo, extremely overpowered. All you need is 2 hexes and Aegis on a target and you instantly get a heal that WoH would be proud of. Although i don't get why its Enchantments and Hexes... surely if its 'soothing' you when your inflicted by things, Hexes and Conditions would make more sense...
Of course you could include them completely wrecking the MM... but i hardly see how thats beneficial. I'm still waiting for them to make up for it.
So far the ONLY thing they've updated recently that has affected me even slightly (since i don't have Factions) has been the improvements made to Dwaynas Kiss and Vigorous Spirit, Kiss been now imo, extremely overpowered. All you need is 2 hexes and Aegis on a target and you instantly get a heal that WoH would be proud of. Although i don't get why its Enchantments and Hexes... surely if its 'soothing' you when your inflicted by things, Hexes and Conditions would make more sense...
Of course you could include them completely wrecking the MM... but i hardly see how thats beneficial. I'm still waiting for them to make up for it.
Kalki
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1 WoW Patch is the same size as 80 GW Patches.
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Ork Pride
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I'd hardly say 1 WoW patch is equal to 80 GW patches. Yes, each WoW patch will provide more "content" (usually another raid dungeon most people won't play) to the very content-starved masses, but if you want to compare the amount of end-game content in a game, then there is absolutely no contest. GW wins hands down. What's most important though is that everytime a WoW patch is released the goal is to find the most exploitable flaw in the patch, and exploit the hell out of it for a few months until the next patch fixes it. Just look at how fast 12 vs. 8 GvG issues were resolved in GW. Kudos to the GW update team. That being said let's hope to see the trade improvements and extra storage sooner rather then later.
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dont ruin a perfectly fine thread with things you obviously have no knowledge of. if you wish to compare the sizes of wow patches to gw patch sizes and other stuff ill happily debate it thru pms.
Evilsod
I just thought i'd count how often the word 'fixed' was used since April 27th.
37 Times the word Fixed came up. Almost all of those have the words 'a bug' after it. So whats your point? We've had 13 updates since Factions went out. Pretty much everyone has fixed some stupid bug they should've picked up in testing. Obviously you can give them some benefit of the doubt. But in there i also saw the words 'Improved the Chat Filter'...
You know i haven't noticed even a slight difference. I still get filtered when i say something in All then quickly copy something into Trade while people are still spamming away.
My personal favourite was this one 'Added weapons to the Shiro and Jade Armor miniatures.'
They are actually spending time adding weapons to minipets. Come on, if you have that much spare f*cking time, where the hell is the armour update?! Fix things that actually need fixing first, then waste your time on novelty items!
37 Times the word Fixed came up. Almost all of those have the words 'a bug' after it. So whats your point? We've had 13 updates since Factions went out. Pretty much everyone has fixed some stupid bug they should've picked up in testing. Obviously you can give them some benefit of the doubt. But in there i also saw the words 'Improved the Chat Filter'...
You know i haven't noticed even a slight difference. I still get filtered when i say something in All then quickly copy something into Trade while people are still spamming away.
My personal favourite was this one 'Added weapons to the Shiro and Jade Armor miniatures.'
They are actually spending time adding weapons to minipets. Come on, if you have that much spare f*cking time, where the hell is the armour update?! Fix things that actually need fixing first, then waste your time on novelty items!
Nick The Nicker
^^^^^ agreed
Kalki
I played 4 characters to 60 in WoW before I quit. I played on the Argent Dawn server alliance side. My paladin had about 25 days of playing time on it. My hunter had about 20 days playing time on it. My druid and mage each had about 15 days of playing time on them. I had other characters too. That's over 75 days.
In GW my /age returns over 1,800 hours.
Want to still claim I'm not backing up my statements with experience?
In GW my /age returns over 1,800 hours.
Want to still claim I'm not backing up my statements with experience?
Hell Raiser
what's wrong with the armour? Sorry if it sounds like I've not been paying attention, but if it's in tyria I really haven't been. Factions was a little too small, but if you can't find other things to do outside of a game, or inside for that matter, then you really need to sit down and think. Titles were a great addition to factions, that is going to keep me, and many other people busy. If you find it boring to collect things or challenge yourself, that's fine but I suggest not playing GW if you are pissed because you can't be ran in factions, are too lazy or impatient to deal with titles or you don't find the updates "Fulfilling" enough.Anet has done a great job imo, they may have messed up a bit with factions, but you'll just have to wait to see what the other team can come up with for chapter 3. It's not P2P so you aren't forced to buy new chapters, if you don't like how they do things then stop playing.
Prophecies was great, and long, but going back to tyria after being in cantha is really odd, hench aren't anywhere near advanced and everything seems old and boring. What I would like to see is some addition to more areas like FoW and UW through the other gods. For now I'll stick to titles while I play.
~Hell
Evilsod
Theres nothing wrong with the majority of the armours. Its just Anet decided to change a few of them for the release.
All Ele armours (since they just sucked) with +10 vs all Elements in it.
Judges and Rogues they took the negative energy bonus off (i think)
Some of the warriors armours, not sure about those though.
They already annoyed enough people by deciding that they'd change some mods, 1. Without telling anyone 2. Without changing existing ones. At the time of that update i had 2 Sundering Bow Strings in storage, 1 day later i sold them to the merchant (not too bothered about them though). My trusty customised Victos Axe/Dragos Bow are useless now too. Gotta buy the lot again, if i wait a few weeks i'm sure i'll be able to grab the new versions at about 20k each, even though i shouldn't have to buy my own weapon again.
If major runes weren't so utterly worthless then there might've been complaints about not modding existing ones too.
Personally i just don't feel like buying my 15k Elementalist armour again just because Anet are useless.
I did give them the benefit of the doubt, but now its 5weeks since Factions was released, still no signs of the armour or storage updates. And just to top things off, they are actually updating the most worthless and pointless things ever as oppose to doing something useful. Honestly, who cares that there Shiro or Jade Armour minipets now have weapons?
All Ele armours (since they just sucked) with +10 vs all Elements in it.
Judges and Rogues they took the negative energy bonus off (i think)
Some of the warriors armours, not sure about those though.
They already annoyed enough people by deciding that they'd change some mods, 1. Without telling anyone 2. Without changing existing ones. At the time of that update i had 2 Sundering Bow Strings in storage, 1 day later i sold them to the merchant (not too bothered about them though). My trusty customised Victos Axe/Dragos Bow are useless now too. Gotta buy the lot again, if i wait a few weeks i'm sure i'll be able to grab the new versions at about 20k each, even though i shouldn't have to buy my own weapon again.
If major runes weren't so utterly worthless then there might've been complaints about not modding existing ones too.
Personally i just don't feel like buying my 15k Elementalist armour again just because Anet are useless.
I did give them the benefit of the doubt, but now its 5weeks since Factions was released, still no signs of the armour or storage updates. And just to top things off, they are actually updating the most worthless and pointless things ever as oppose to doing something useful. Honestly, who cares that there Shiro or Jade Armour minipets now have weapons?
lyra_song
Another whine thread?
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thrashbasket
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My trusty customised Victos Axe/Dragos Bow are useless now too.
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Vermilion
I guess people still haven't realized that Anet and Ncsoft and everyone else involved in GW want to make money. Remember - Anet is a business like everything else, and which do you think is more worth their time? Updating a game, or working on a releasing a new one?
I don't disagree with whats been said in this thread, but its been my opinion for some time that Anet's focus has been on new consumers, rather than repeat buyers. Those who are ignorant of previous chapters may look at Ch.3 and on and think, "Oh that might be fun", Then they end up with the same problems as the rest of us. I am willing to bet that although each chapter is marked as a Stand-alone, those new to the series will be at a disadvantage to those who have bought the previous chapters.
/imo
I don't disagree with whats been said in this thread, but its been my opinion for some time that Anet's focus has been on new consumers, rather than repeat buyers. Those who are ignorant of previous chapters may look at Ch.3 and on and think, "Oh that might be fun", Then they end up with the same problems as the rest of us. I am willing to bet that although each chapter is marked as a Stand-alone, those new to the series will be at a disadvantage to those who have bought the previous chapters.
/imo
SilentAssassin
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man, can't you ppl take a break? From release of factions ppl are whining about the same thing over and over again.
Yes I want my armours to be changed to the new stats, yes I want auction house, yes I want more storage, yes ....
But on the other hand I am so gratefull of having a new chapter every 6 months, that means alot of new content !! even if I have to pay for it.
I can understand that ppl don't like factions because they don't like the system (I love it btw and many others do so to) well if you don't like it maybe chapter 3 will be something for you.
Evilsod, you are complaining because they made mini-pets etc?? MANY ppl love those pets, have a look at what they are selling for, doesn't that mean enough?
Also you talk about Anet not fulfilling your wishes, but you haven't got factions if I am correct, Anet is a bussiness and ppl who don't buy any chapters are not interesting for them.
I don't understand why ppl always need to complain about these little things.. oh well thats life right.
Swampgirl Inez
I'm just stepping in to say that this thread is getting dangerously close to breaking out in a flamewar. Please keep it respectful everyone.
Thanks.
Thanks.
eternal pho
Every 6 months..new game..50 bucks..less updates/content..sometimes makes you wanna quit. 6 months is actually pretty quick and you'll be spending loads of cash on expansions with less and less content.
chessyang
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bulletsmile
well, all i can see is complaining on anet all the time, i think they have made a great game, but they could fix more things like:
- auction house
- more options for customizing armors
- better visual effects from the skills, they should really update the visuals for every single skills, except from wards, minions, wells etc all the skills looks boring and makes the combat a lot more boring!
- auction house
- more options for customizing armors
- better visual effects from the skills, they should really update the visuals for every single skills, except from wards, minions, wells etc all the skills looks boring and makes the combat a lot more boring!
robrobrob
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They are actually spending time adding weapons to minipets. Come on, if you have that much spare f*cking time, where the hell is the armour update, trade improvements, or storage improvements?! Fix things that actually need fixing first, then waste your time on novelty items!
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Quoted for f*cking truth.
Fist_of_God
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Argen
But... the Jade Armor is so... so... [insert appropriate adjective here] with its little beaty stick.
Anyways, some of the updates to the minipets may have been in the pipe for a bit of time, and probably significantly less intensive to implement. I imagine (HOPE) that the auction house system has a few people, 4-7ish working on it over the course of several months, compared to adding swords to Shiro, which probably took Bob the Intern, working through his smoke break, to do.
Oh yes, I have no problem with lots of updates... if they are truly adding something or fixing issures (including nerfs).
Anyways, some of the updates to the minipets may have been in the pipe for a bit of time, and probably significantly less intensive to implement. I imagine (HOPE) that the auction house system has a few people, 4-7ish working on it over the course of several months, compared to adding swords to Shiro, which probably took Bob the Intern, working through his smoke break, to do.
Oh yes, I have no problem with lots of updates... if they are truly adding something or fixing issures (including nerfs).
dargon
Not to mention, that each group of people working on things like bugs / adjustments is broken down into subgroups such as ART DEPARTMENT. I for one would rather an artist didn't try writing code thank you very much. As things get fixed / completed by each subgroup of people, they are then tested. When testing is completed if no problems are found then they are released. If you think you can do better, then by all means APPLY for work there. Here's the webpage with the list of openings.
http://arena.net/jobs/index.html
If on the other hand you have ZERO knowledge of just what is ACTUALLY involved in coding and supporting a rather large and intimidating project such as this one, please quityerbitchin. You are welcome to your opinion on matters, but that's all it is YOUR OPINION, do not treat it is the gods honest truth because more than likely, your opinion is based upon less than steller information backed up by other rumors and straight out lies.
http://arena.net/jobs/index.html
If on the other hand you have ZERO knowledge of just what is ACTUALLY involved in coding and supporting a rather large and intimidating project such as this one, please quityerbitchin. You are welcome to your opinion on matters, but that's all it is YOUR OPINION, do not treat it is the gods honest truth because more than likely, your opinion is based upon less than steller information backed up by other rumors and straight out lies.
Ravious
I am mostly disappointed with what A.Net considers "end game" for Factions. They have such amazing ideas, like competitive missions and elite missions, and then somehow they don't meet potential.
Factions was worth $50, but it wasn't worth $50 like Prophecies was. Just adding two more Realms of the Gods would've done it for me, or one more, more complex competitive mission.
Factions was worth $50, but it wasn't worth $50 like Prophecies was. Just adding two more Realms of the Gods would've done it for me, or one more, more complex competitive mission.
Skarjak
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Not to mention, that each group of people working on things like bugs / adjustments is broken down into subgroups such as ART DEPARTMENT. I for one would rather an artist didn't try writing code thank you very much. As things get fixed / completed by each subgroup of people, they are then tested. When testing is completed if no problems are found then they are released. If you think you can do better, then by all means APPLY for work there. Here's the webpage with the list of openings.
http://arena.net/jobs/index.html If on the other hand you have ZERO knowledge of just what is ACTUALLY involved in coding and supporting a rather large and intimidating project such as this one, please quityerbitchin. You are welcome to your opinion on matters, but that's all it is YOUR OPINION, do not treat it is the gods honest truth because more than likely, your opinion is based upon less than steller information backed up by other rumors and straight out lies. |