Rurik is Elonian

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The other day, I was doing some questing in the Crystal Desert and... well, just take a look for yourself:


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Or it's just Elonian fashion everyone in Ascalon has gone crazy about.

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by that logic...every character who has a fds is from elona, even though the story says they are from ascalon or cantha

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its a quest item from an npc in heros audiance...

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Rurik is only 1/16th Elonian, on his mothers side. At least thats what he told me. =)

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Besides, that sword don't even belong to Rurik. That sword is part of "The Misplaced Sword" quest. It belong to an Elonian, but not Rurik.

How can the prince of Ascalon be Elonian? It just doesn't make sense.

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Since when did logic have anything to do with GW lore and storylines?

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Anyway, my guess that since Rurik is Elonian, the 3rd chapter will be about fighting nooby NPC's.

Anyway, the quest was probably made to give us a clue about Rurik, imho

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Woah, its like gameFAQs!

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Please tell me this thread and everyone believing it is a part of an elaborate joke.

FDSs drop from the desert onward. Orr was a country that traded with Ascalon, likewise the nation of Elona. Likely many of the highly prized 'flaming blades' were exported as a treasure to Ascalon, who equipped its royal family and guards with them. Even if that is incorrect, you can find weapons of many types in many places. The fact only the royal guards and family wield FDSs show they are a treasure of the Ascalon's Chosen, which for all we know could have won them in wars against Orr.

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Oh and don't forget that Elonians did traded with the Canthans and Ascalonian ;p (not sure if Krytans as well).

Hey, those FDSs may very well be Elonian made, traded/exported to the nations in the COntinent of Tyria. At least from what I read from the GWF CE manuscript, Humans first settled in the continent of Cantha than in Tyria. And there are theories that some Canthans were Elonians.

If C3 is really about Elonians, then ANet SL writers are following what is a proven fact. Humanity in Planet Earth originated from Africa.

Could it be the same in the Planet Tyria?

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Just because rurik holds an FDS and theres an FDS skinned sword doesnt mean rurik is elonian. If it really is ruriks sword, please explain how it got there from the shiverpeaks (Where rurik died)

WAMMO'S ARE ELONIAN! They use teh uber leet FDS too

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Rurik is a decendant of King Doric, who was the leader of the united human tribes and travelled to the Orrian peninsula to make the gods split up magic. If he would have lived in the ascalon area at the time as well, since rurik and adelbern are his decendants, he could possibly have travelled through the desert to get to Orr and could have found a sword there.

Of course it's not by any means a definite answer, it is one explanation.

Then again, Adelberns guards also have fiery dragon swords, so maybe they just import them.

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He's Orrian undead rurik drops decay orr emblams and dropped.. wait for it.. an executioner's breastplate for me

copy and paste ftw anet

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How can Rurik be elonian if hes the king of ASCALON'S Son?. Just because he has an FDS doesn't mean its his there are LOADS of FDS's out there. I have one , am i elonian?

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Oh, didn't realise we were being serious.. get real ppl

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Considering that you sometimes see the guards on the nameless isle with FDS (Saw all 4 with one each once) I hardly doubt Rurik is Elonian. Not forgetting that some Ascalon guards use FDS and even crystaline (from time to time).

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yes Rurik is royal but that sword is belongs to that ghost remember not Rurik

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If Rurick is part anything it's goat

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People, I didn't say Rurik was FROM Elonia, but that he has Elonian blood in him!

You see? It could mean all Ascalonians have Elonian blood in them too...

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I dont even know why I got into this conversation....If I remember correctly, People who tried to settle in the desert died. Heres the only possible way Rurik could be elonian:

A settler from the crystal desert traveled north to Ascalon, and started a family. Their great whatever grandson was Rurik.
How would the sword of gotten there?
After Ruriks death, someone must of stolen Rurik's sword and somehow left it in the crystal desert.

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Alright, lemme see if I can begin tie it all together, as someone was doing before:

A long time ago, there was this little baby in the Crystal Desert. A Forgotten picked him up, brought him to other humans in the Crystal Desert (The Elonians). The baby grew up, mated with an Elonian, moved to what is now Ascalon. *Fill in stuff here*

After Rurik died, a dwarf picked up his sword. He gave it to you, and you carried it with you for quite a while. Eventually, you arrived in Amnoon, where you dropped the sword and that ghost that you get the quest from found it. When you put the sword in its rightful place (Rurik's great great great great grandfather's grave), the Lich stole it. Then he gave it to Undead Rurik.

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Isnt like half the kings guards equipped with FDS in the cutscene at the end of Nolani Academy? Are they all from Elona too?

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Originally Posted by lightblade
Besides, that sword don't even belong to Rurik. That sword is part of "The Misplaced Sword" quest. It belong to an Elonian, but not Rurik.

How can the prince of Ascalon be Elonian? It just doesn't make sense.
It was the Elonian milkman at Ascalon Palace.

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Originally Posted by androidgeoff
Anyway, my guess that since Rurik is Elonian, the 3rd chapter will be about fighting nooby NPC's.

Anyway, the quest was probably made to give us a clue about Rurik, imho
That picture is just a skin of the "Fiery Dragon Sword" but it dosnt mean that its the sword I get tons of them just off monsters and not only in Elonia, they just used the same skin for the quest, this thread seems silly.

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Lmao...i've gotten FDS's off of trolls, does that mean they are Elonian?

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Lmao...i've gotten FDS's off of trolls, does that mean they are Elonian?
Obvious relatives of Rurik.

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Originally Posted by lightblade
How can the prince of Ascalon be Elonian? It just doesn't make sense.
The same way most of the English nobility is actually French. Or by contrast, how so many Chinese elites back in imperial times had Korean blood through their maternal line.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by androidgeoff
After Rurik died, a dwarf picked up his sword. He gave it to you, and you carried it with you for quite a while. Eventually, you arrived in Amnoon, where you dropped the sword and that ghost that you get the quest from found it.
No, you dont get his sword. If you did have it, it would say somewhere, probably frost gate cutscene. Was it there? no.

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Obvious relatives of Rurik.
Ive gotten FDS's from lots of enemies....if there all relatives of rurik, then his mom must of...you know.

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Ive gotten FDS's from lots of enemies....if there all relatives of rurik, then his mom must of...you know.
Be Elonian!

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I get firey dragon swords from Trolls and Avicara rather often.. *wink wink nudge nudge*

LOL

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Quote:
Originally Posted by androidgeoff
After Rurik died, a dwarf picked up his sword. He gave it to you, and you carried it with you for quite a while. Eventually, you arrived in Amnoon, where you dropped the sword and that ghost that you get the quest from found it.
No, you dont get his sword. If you did have it, it would say somewhere, probably frost gate cutscene. Was it there? no.



Ive gotten FDS's from lots of enemies....if there all relatives of rurik, then his mom must of...you know.
See, the creators are trying to hide all these things that you don't see. What you don't see in the cutscene before he dies is when he says "Save yourselves" he throws his FDS at you and you run away!

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I have to buy that sword from you, it's like a FDS but 1337er.

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See, the creators are trying to hide all these things that you don't see. What you don't see in the cutscene before he dies is when he says "Save yourselves" he throws his FDS at you and you run away!

Yes, ANet may of tried to hide stuff in the storyline. People on GwG have found almost everything that ANet attempted to "hide" and more. Some people spend hours a day trying to figure things out. You see an FDS in a quest and presume its Ruriks.

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That is because it is his

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Quote:
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That is because it is his
This argument is literally going nowhere..... =\ Instead of just saying "cuz its his" try to make a valid point. Also, if it was ruriks sword, im 99.999999999999% that somebody would already of found this out.

androidgeoff

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Alright, the guy you get the quest from is obviously trying to help out the Lich too.

He tells you to bring Rurik's sword to some "Ceremonial" resting place... when in fact it is so the Lich can nab it for himself and give it to his über Rurik Undead Pet

Bane of Worlds

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right...so you really think Yort really is working for the Lich?

hmm I swore it was his family's ceremonial sword...

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right...so you really think Yort really is working for the Lich?
No no, Yort IS the lich!

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Originally Posted by Rathcail
No no, Yort IS the lich!
Actually, the Vizer is the lich.