Best world to start new character in

samtheslayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

None

W/Mo

IF a veteran player wanted to start a new character what would be a better world to start in, tyria or cantha? (sole purpose to prep a pve character into a pvp character)

keep in mind the speed at which you get your extra 30 attributes,

the time it takes to get skills free from quests vs time it takes to get 1k to buy the skill with the mass of skill points from canthan quests.


feel free to express your reasons why.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Personally I would pick Cantha for the faster levelling up, after which you could get run through tyria to get elite skills that you might need. Xp in cantha is faster as well so you can quickly build up skill points to buy the skills you want on that char.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

I'd go with Cantha for the faster levels as well as the 15 point attribute quests which come pretty early. It's also easier to get max armor compared to Tyria, where you have to be ran everywhere until you get to Drok's. And you can always go back to Tyria from Cantha, so you can skip everything from Ascalon->LA.

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Tyria will get you a lot of skills for free, Cantha will get you a lot of skill points but you have to buy the skills.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Cantha will get you much more exp. Why did I have to buy my armor for my damned lvl 4 tyrian monk

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

dgb has a point. I considered starting my monk in Tyria because you'll get a lot of skills from quests, but then again, getting to lvl 20 takes ages in Tyria.

robrobrob

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

When I make new characters, I simply can't fathom why I would pick Tyria over Cantha. XP comes much faster in Cantha, skill points are rewarded like crazy in Cantha, more skills are available earlier in Cantha, you pick and choose what skills to get when even though you have to pay BUT... gold is easier to make in Cantha.

So, yeah...

Imp

Imp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Novum Igneus [NI]

Rt/

cantha for the early max armor, attribute quest, and leveling. Then port over to tyria for the skill quest and such.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Well a lot of canthan characters look crap, when i start a warrior im gonna start in prophecies as the cathan warrior faces look stupid to say the least, same goes for male eles and monks.
you can port back over into cantha fairly fast for the high XP or power lvl in droks.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imp
cantha for the early max armor, attribute quest, and leveling. Then port over to tyria for the skill quest and such.
Quoted for truth. This is my prefered method for developing a RPG character ready for PvP combat.

Donut Zeke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
Well a lot of canthan characters look crap, when i start a warrior im gonna start in prophecies as the cathan warrior faces look stupid to say the least, same goes for male eles and monks.
you can port back over into cantha fairly fast for the high XP or power lvl in droks.
I agree with you, it is all about the looks. I made a Canthan Mesmer just because the female looks better. You can get run to LA for fairly cheap if you start a Tyrian character. Then find a group and go do some quests. Soon you'll be level 20, and can just get a run to the desert for the 15 att. point quests. Likewise, you can get to Kaineng pretty early on with your Canthan character and port over to LA for the skill quests. It is all about the looks.

Tuesg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

hex

R/Me

I started in Tyria for the free skills and stuff sooner then once i got out of pre at lv 4 got a run to lions arch jumped to cantha and did the quests there to level quicker.

Also I was getting bored of having to do the missions on the island.

zakaria

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

So..where are the ppl who were complaining about leveling up so fast in cantha that doesn't give them chance for enjoying the game and blah blah blah...!!
since that most of us like this fast leveling up system..i hope they do it again in ch.3

pokerface

pokerface

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Guardians of the Grail

R/Mo

Tyria couse i dont like the Canthan Faces :-P

And becouse power lvling is much easier in Tyria

Markrids

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuesg
I started in Tyria for the free skills and stuff sooner then once i got out of pre at lv 4 got a run to lions arch jumped to cantha and did the quests there to level quicker.
What quests are you talking about? All the quests in Cantha are aimed at high lvl players.

BBQRibs

BBQRibs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Me

I created a Tyrian character, then got a run to LA and entered Cantha at lvl 2 thinking it would be easier to level more quickly, get max armor and skills more easily also. This was before they allowed Canthan characters to go back and do the Tyrian missions earlier than D'Elessio Seaboard, so I thought I had that beat too since I could use this character to do those old Tyrian missions too.

But then I forgot about the difficulty of the extra 15 att quests in Tyria vs Cantha. And also the fact that no one wants anything below a lvl 20 in their party in Vizunah Square, and if you try to hench it, the other team leaves. So I'm forced to go back and do Tyrian missions and quests for 5 more levels (I've done all the Kaineng Center quests).

Tuesg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

hex

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Markrids
What quests are you talking about? All the quests in Cantha are aimed at high lvl players.

With 7 LV 20 henchmen nothing is hard, i did THK at lv 10 with the henchmen cause i needed a skill, the quest on cantha are not hard for a low level to do. Anyone that can't do then doesn't no how to use henchmen effectively

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

I recently started a new Mesmer in Tyria, because I don't want him to be Asiatic. I also started in Tyria so that I could get all the free skills from quests.

I did, however, get ran up to Lions Arch, and hopped over to Kaineng Center in Cantha to easily get max (60AL) armor, because it's easier (and cheaper) than getting ran to Droknar's Forge. (And, some of the new Canthan armors for Mesmers look pretty good.)

Honestly, there's easy xp obtained either way, and I think the Tyria stuff is more entertaining than the Shing Jea island stuff. Shing Jea has the benefit of getting you to it faster and is more compact, but, IMO, zzzz.... snooze city. Ch1's campaign was just written so much more imaginatively than Ch2's campaign was. Ch1 = Let's make an awesome campaign world, with lots of stuff going on... Ch2 = OMG AZNS R SO COOL... LOLOLOL. Meh.

eudas

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

W/E

I would rather have more skill quests and less skill points, than less skill quests and more skill points because I never have had a problem of shortages of skill points.

Bellucci

Bellucci

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

you can still get free skills in tyria as canthan up until you finally get to crystal desert... places like lions arch, beetletun, fishermen's haven, druids overlook etc, all give you free skills

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

i say Tyria. You can learn more and get a ton more free skills through quests. Plus its prettier!

Across The Battle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Jersey

W/

I started mine in tyria, quicker to get out of noob world and you can just get a run to cantha and quest :-D

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

If you take the 30-attribute-point quests into consideration, then it's Cantha. No other choices...

....unless someone can prove to be able to do that in Tyria faster than in Cantha, then please, be my guest.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Cantha hands down.

You'll hit level 20 with the 30 extra attribute points in 4 hours or less. You'll also be able to get 20 skills before the 1k cap hits. That gives your character more than the skills it needs to be fully functioning in PvP for whatever build your guild is currently using. You can then buy the rest of your desired skills over time, so you'll then be able to remain a fully PvP ready character. Buying EVERY skill for the character's primary class isn't required, and it's not like a veteran player needs to worry about the unlocks needed to buy skills straight from the skill trainers.

Cantha is the fastest/easiest place to make a PvP ready PvE character from scratch.

EDIT: You'll also be able to go do all the skill-giving quests from LA onward. >.> That's where most of the better skills were given, so it's not like you're missing a whole lot of skills by passing up Cantha/Northern Shiverpeaks.

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

I say if you already know the game anyway, Cantha. Easy choice there.

huMptY DumPty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

[BAN]

W/

I'd say Cantha too.
1) You can level up much faster than Tyria
2) The quests in general are a LOT easier -- xp gained/time spent ratio is waaay more generous
3) The quests worth thousands of xp at a time + attribute points... it will shoot you into lvl 20.
4) When you get to lvl 20 you just simply go back to Tyria into Lions Arch go to droks and start capping old skills

** Too many advantages to start in Cantha in my opinion

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Across The Battle
I started mine in tyria, quicker to get out of noob world and you can just get a run to cantha and quest :-D
To hell with noob world, as long as your benifiting from it, who gives.

I'd suggest Cantha, I like the Cantha faces better

And you can easily get out of noobland in Cantha at level 16. Well if you do every quest

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

Cantha=ULTIMATE newbie island good prep for the hardness that is Tyria Ring of Fire

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Across The Battle
I started mine in tyria, quicker to get out of noob world and you can just get a run to cantha and quest :-D
.....and stay being n00b forever because you miss 30 attribute points on that char?

Seriously?

Not to mention the fact that you will have a very low chance to survive whatever mobs you can find in Cantha, if you leave Pre-Sear early and take a RUN to LA.

So, again, seriously?

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

if you want some sort of effort in your character... start in Tyria. With the amount of time I have to play (which isn't a whole lot) it could take me 4 days to get to lv 8 and leave pre-searing behind. However my first day of playing Factions ended with my Ritualist being lv18 when I left the island.

And what of this 30 attributes you speak off? I began in Cantha with my Ritualist obviously... yet I have not come across such quest yet?

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Mixed about this....

If you played guildwars for a while, I'd say Cantha then go to Tyria.
Get to level 20 quick, then go where you want to go.

If your never played GW and own both, start out in Tyria, then go to cantha.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrik
And what of this 30 attributes you speak off? I began in Cantha with my Ritualist obviously... yet I have not come across such quest yet?
after mission 1 where yoy see the minister you are transported to the gardens.

cross the bridge ahead of you and hang a sharp right to the guy with the quest mark over his head.

lost treasure or something like that.

reward is exp gold and 15 attribute points.

finish mission 2 and get the quest unwelcome guests from Zunia in sheting harbor for the second 15 attribute point quest

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

It all depends on what you want your char. to look like.I prefer mine to look like Tryian and I like the armor there as well although there is some fine Canthan armor for certain profs eg. Mesmer,Ranger and Elementalist.I don't very much like the armor for Monks or Warriors can't say to much about the Necro though.

Did they have to fight a doppleganger to ascend though and do 3 missions it is probably easier like the rest of the missions.

thecrimsonblade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Virginia

Nefarious Coterie [Cult]

W/Mo

Best and fastest way to make a High level character is to start off in the new Factions Game at level 0ne. I was able to go from lvl 1 lvl thru lvl 15 in 7 hours on the saturday of the Festival weekend. By monday he was level 20 and I had 3000 Orbs on top of haveing a new lvl 20 R/W character. I wanted to make a runner so after a week of exploreing Cantha I deside to take him to Lions Arch and then ran backwards to Ascalon and did all the mission I could do that gave me Free skills I didn't already have. Then when I got to Beacon Perch I took the run to Drokanars forge. and started from there and started the missions there I now have a Ranger/Warrior that can run From Beacons Perch to Camp Rankor without a rest in 18 Min start to finish. Today Tuesday July 11th I started a Rt/Me and he is now lvl 12 and by next saterday Hope to have on powerful Character for GvG and AB guild allience battles.

Zephyr Jackson

Zephyr Jackson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kansas

E/Mo

took me ~17hrs to get to lvl 15 with a ranger(tyrian), i have a lvl 16 Mesmer(Prophecies) ~7 hrs

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

I vote for Tyria and same as eudas i made a new Tyria mesmer ran him to LA and beyond and got max armour from Kaineng Centre and went to do all the quest for skills, i am uncertain of the exact skill numbers but it seems that Cantha born toons have 50% less skills than Tyria born characters without having to buy any to start off with and in this sense makes Cantha characters both expensive to maintain and also inferior to Tyria born characters.

But i speak from a PvE perspective and i am sure many would beg to differ but i personally dont like the speed leveling system but I understand that its neccessary in factions because despite it being marketed as a standalone game clearly the content has been targeted and contoured to players who have GWP and are buying GWF to bring their toons over to explore Cantha, hence resulting in the rushed and poorly implemented RPG/PvE experience.

I can only hope Anet is more creative at solving this problem in C3 otherwise hype alone wont make it this time...then again at the rate they are screwing themselves over, i doubt this may be an issue at all.

Sorry i digress. /end rant

Talic

Talic

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Durance Of Fate [DoF]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by eudas
I recently started a new Mesmer in Tyria, because I don't want him to be Asiatic. I also started in Tyria so that I could get all the free skills from quests.

I did, however, get ran up to Lions Arch, and hopped over to Kaineng Center in Cantha to easily get max (60AL) armor, because it's easier (and cheaper) than getting ran to Droknar's Forge. (And, some of the new Canthan armors for Mesmers look pretty good.)

Honestly, there's easy xp obtained either way, and I think the Tyria stuff is more entertaining than the Shing Jea island stuff. Shing Jea has the benefit of getting you to it faster and is more compact, but, IMO, zzzz.... snooze city. Ch1's campaign was just written so much more imaginatively than Ch2's campaign was. Ch1 = Let's make an awesome campaign world, with lots of stuff going on... Ch2 = OMG AZNS R SO COOL... LOLOLOL. Meh.

eudas
You pretty much summed up everything I was going to say, I dont like the asian look (or much of the cantha looks period, or armor)

I just make tyrian, get to lvl 6 or so in pre, get run to LA, go to k-mart get max armor and do all the quests and that makes me level 15-19 or so, with the benefits that tyrian > canthan in looks IMO.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Cantha can level you up faster, if you have the balls to face enemies 3 or 4 lvls above you. Tyria is a bit slower but lets you cruise through the place without fear of being ambushed by a pack of Oni.

Jedimagician

Jedimagician

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

start a character with the look you like... if you dont like the looks of canthan characters, start with a prophecies character, if you dont like the looks of a prophecies character, start with canthan character.

Kuja

Kuja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

MA

Kame

Mo/W

if your aim is to have fun in PVE Tyria
if your aim is to get to level 20 Cantha.