[troll] I have concluded that the only way to curb the onslaught of "OMGZOR PLZ NERF TOUCH RANGERS!!!11" threads popping up like mushrooms in the rain is to liberally turn every single one of them into unrepairable flame war so that moderation must lock 'em. Maybe they will lose heart at some point. This would take quite long tho and since every imaginable argument and counter-argument has already been pointed out couldn't we just contact Gaile or Izzy and have them call these people idiots? Maybe it will let dust settle and give us time and opportunity to whine about something else that gets our <donkey> handed out to us.
My stand? Not overpowered. Anyone stating otherwise is wrong by default.[/troll]
Live your life, eat your cake.
Touch Ranger - Overpowered?
Karmaniac
sigried
Just for your Info.
Rangers= main abillity survival they suposed to skip atacks
Necros = either you do curses or blood cuz MM now sucks as hell
what could happend if they nerfed either one if the make rangers hability to not evada atack id say rangers are usseles.
if they touch the necro class well cant imagine deliting my necros cuz they already sucks as hell.
there are many ways to counter a touch ranger firts thing you need to do is stay in group if you go solo you will be doom.
Rangers= main abillity survival they suposed to skip atacks
Necros = either you do curses or blood cuz MM now sucks as hell
what could happend if they nerfed either one if the make rangers hability to not evada atack id say rangers are usseles.
if they touch the necro class well cant imagine deliting my necros cuz they already sucks as hell.
there are many ways to counter a touch ranger firts thing you need to do is stay in group if you go solo you will be doom.
Aisius
I'd just be happy to see a warrior counter that would help a warrior/monk that uses an axe. Shove{E} could work for a KD except you must have the adreniline to perform the move. To get the adren I'd need to battery something then hope I'm not already dead from the spammable moves performed by the toucher in order to get off my counter.
Maybe something in the tactics that allows a daze to be performed or even a energy skill that will daze for max 6 secs and cripple lose all adren and disable all skills for a time.
I just can't see any counter there that allows an axe warrior monk to pull off with low adrenilin without either 1. changing to hammers, new armour set for hammers with complete shift to hammer attributes 2.changing 2nd profession and being an anti toucher. 3. Charge {E} run away in the hope that somehow your not going to see the toucher again.
My counter in the past for ss necro has been to use a ranged weapon build adren and then when the oppurtunity arises move in and attempt to kill. Touchers are rarely at range and since my counters rely on adrenilin I need to build that somehow.
I agree that staying in group is a very good counter, but please bear in mind that as a W/Mo axe user and running to and from nodes in AB my best defense is to run away hoping that my 3 ranger team mates can difuse the toucher before i fall victim to it.
Maybe something in the tactics that allows a daze to be performed or even a energy skill that will daze for max 6 secs and cripple lose all adren and disable all skills for a time.
I just can't see any counter there that allows an axe warrior monk to pull off with low adrenilin without either 1. changing to hammers, new armour set for hammers with complete shift to hammer attributes 2.changing 2nd profession and being an anti toucher. 3. Charge {E} run away in the hope that somehow your not going to see the toucher again.
My counter in the past for ss necro has been to use a ranged weapon build adren and then when the oppurtunity arises move in and attempt to kill. Touchers are rarely at range and since my counters rely on adrenilin I need to build that somehow.
I agree that staying in group is a very good counter, but please bear in mind that as a W/Mo axe user and running to and from nodes in AB my best defense is to run away hoping that my 3 ranger team mates can difuse the toucher before i fall victim to it.
GranDeWun
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Originally Posted by Aisius
Shove{E} could work for a KD except you must have the adreniline to perform the move.
Shove is energy, not adren. Even better, it is not an 'attack' and is unaffected by Blind.
Lambentviper
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
"Begins casting a long Binding Ritual with the Shock Axe on your tale"
"Cancels it just before he reaches you"
"zomg he hit me with Shock... never saw that coming" "but oh my, he may not have interupted me with shock, but he still stopped me from finishing the cast AND got the KD! Seems like he did just what he set out to do"
"Cancels it just before he reaches you"
"zomg he hit me with Shock... never saw that coming" "but oh my, he may not have interupted me with shock, but he still stopped me from finishing the cast AND got the KD! Seems like he did just what he set out to do"
stool_cannon
Man, I have never heard such pissing and moaning.
Here is the basic thought process of the average GW player using a warrior as an example.
1. Create your uber build
Skills:
Sever
Gash
Final
Heal Breeze
Mending
Purge Cond
Orison
Heal Sig
Heal 12
Sword 16
2. Admire your own personal creativity and masterful use of skills
3. Enter battle
4. Piss and moan on guru about how every other build - up to and including heal monks - is completely overpowered since you got owned by everything you encountered.
5. Change out one skill
6. Rinse and repeat, increasing pissing and moaning with each iteration.
Seriously people, get a grip. With 100's of skills available I'm sure you can put something together that will counter the touch ranger effectively. Every time there is a new flavor of the month this bitching starts up again and it gets pretty tiring.
Here is the basic thought process of the average GW player using a warrior as an example.
1. Create your uber build
Skills:
Sever
Gash
Final
Heal Breeze
Mending
Purge Cond
Orison
Heal Sig
Heal 12
Sword 16
2. Admire your own personal creativity and masterful use of skills
3. Enter battle
4. Piss and moan on guru about how every other build - up to and including heal monks - is completely overpowered since you got owned by everything you encountered.
5. Change out one skill
6. Rinse and repeat, increasing pissing and moaning with each iteration.
Seriously people, get a grip. With 100's of skills available I'm sure you can put something together that will counter the touch ranger effectively. Every time there is a new flavor of the month this bitching starts up again and it gets pretty tiring.
gordohand
i <3 touch rangers so fun to play, but everyone hates u. ;( bummer but i dont care
Master Ketsu
Touch Rangers are n00b filters just like IWAY. They Own those who dont know what kiting is, but kiting really is a problem for them ( even when using speed boosts. You really have to be RIGHT THERE to touch someone. Warriors have more range then touch rangers. ) Touchies are in no way overpowered. The only way touchies could be overpowered would be if expertise had a crippling skill, and even then there would still be ways to counter them.
Amy Awien
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Originally Posted by Karmaniac
... liberally turn every single one of them [touchranger threads] into unrepairable flame war so that moderation must lock 'em ...
I get the feeling that doesn't work if you tag your flamebait. Good idea though, perhaps we should keep that in mind. Maybe if we mix the flamebait with off-topic posts we'll create a better effect.
Red1086
Posted in "How to nerf a touch ranger"
Quoting myself
Quote:
Quoting myself
Quote:
There is an in-game nerf to Touch Rangers. I have experienced it myself. It is called BLACKOUT. It is also called INTERRUPT. Oh, and do not forget, ENERGY DENIAL.
Bam, three counters to Touch Rangers and no need for actual nerfs.
Thank you.
imnotyourmother
Well that might work for 1 single touch ranger but certainly not for 2 with BLOOD Ritual!
I used to run War Primary until I hit some of the harder areas of the game and then I sucked. I would only do 8 and 9 damage a strike. I was yelling and throwing things and was just plain mad.
Then this ranger touched me and POOOOOOOffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff i was dead. I was WTF I need to get me one of them!!!!
So I did and I run with a group of 6 touchies and 1 Knock Down running skilled WAR and a monk.
We OWN everything. Oh and energy drains.. well they do not do nothing to us cause...BLOOD RITUAL!
I say HAHAHAHAHHA to everyone and Poof.. War runs and Hammers someone knocking them down. Once they are down they are done. IF they get back up I cripple those trying to run away and just spam city on the bites. A 15 energy skill costs me 5. yes 5. Oh and my OoB is like 18!!! What a joke. I do 65 DMG every second not to mention X6. I can eat 1000 Health in less than 3 seconds. I Rule the Wolrd!
But can not spell yet.
In PvE change war to MM and one other Hero to MM. So my group is 5 Touchies all targetting the SAME foe and then my MM just rule. My monk is there for looks.
I used to run War Primary until I hit some of the harder areas of the game and then I sucked. I would only do 8 and 9 damage a strike. I was yelling and throwing things and was just plain mad.
Then this ranger touched me and POOOOOOOffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff i was dead. I was WTF I need to get me one of them!!!!
So I did and I run with a group of 6 touchies and 1 Knock Down running skilled WAR and a monk.
We OWN everything. Oh and energy drains.. well they do not do nothing to us cause...BLOOD RITUAL!
I say HAHAHAHAHHA to everyone and Poof.. War runs and Hammers someone knocking them down. Once they are down they are done. IF they get back up I cripple those trying to run away and just spam city on the bites. A 15 energy skill costs me 5. yes 5. Oh and my OoB is like 18!!! What a joke. I do 65 DMG every second not to mention X6. I can eat 1000 Health in less than 3 seconds. I Rule the Wolrd!
But can not spell yet.
In PvE change war to MM and one other Hero to MM. So my group is 5 Touchies all targetting the SAME foe and then my MM just rule. My monk is there for looks.
zelgadissan
July 2006 thanks you for your story.
Touch Rangers, while annoying and lame, are not OP and extremely easy to counter. End of story.
Touch Rangers, while annoying and lame, are not OP and extremely easy to counter. End of story.