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Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 12:03 - 1

I expected a lot from GW and from factions but all I got is a 4 days game…

Another thing is that this game has great potential and great graphics but you ruined it…

You put gates in each town and put only 8 people in a party and blocked the MMO And another thing is that you've done that the max level is 20 and that’s annoying! Because when you finish the game what's left for you to do?

The lame pvp GW is offering? GW doesn’t even has two races… a good pvp is a pvp like in WOW (World of Warcraft) or KO (Knight Online)

Which there are battles between races or alliance and horde' I know that factions is offering kurzick and luxon fights but that’s limited to 12 people each fight and that’s lame And it's not even organized, in KO its happening, every day something else dark lunar war lunar war temple event etc… but in GW none of that happens GW doesn’t even has Online GM's to help people.

Can you understand what I'm trying to say? If you do maybe if you want GW to succeed you will make an update that will give all of those things.

If you will release a new version of GW that people will need to buy I'm not going to buy it unless all of those things are fixed\added to the game.

And that also explains why world of warcraft has 4-7 million people playing even with monthly fee and GW only has 1.5 million which are playing GW only because You don’t need to pay monthly…

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

06 Jun 2006 at 12:06 - 2

You're asking Guild Wars to become an MMO which is exactly the thing it set out not to be.

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

06 Jun 2006 at 12:15 - 3

And out of those 4-7 Million people we have half of them buying gold/powerleveling/Bots/etc. Guildwars Advertises the fact it uses instances, A difference then in other MMO's.

Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 12:16 - 4

and why is that bad? GW can be so much better if they will add atleast a few things that i mentioned in my thread.
and tell me do you like GW as it is or would you like atleast one of my ideas to be added to the game? and if you do which one...
i think that the game GW has been set to be is a bad idea for MMO's and that it should be updated real fast if GW wants to survive.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

06 Jun 2006 at 12:22 - 5

Quote:

i think that the game GW has been set to be is a bad idea for MMO's and that it should be updated real fast if GW wants to survive.

GW isn't an MMO, so gg. It's instanced.

Races are stupid. Classes are a better system. The pvp in GW is infinitely more complex and skillfull than WoW. The real battles are the 8v8 team battles, where characters and numbers are evenly matched.

The people who play GW prefer it over MMO gamestyle. Go play WoW.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

06 Jun 2006 at 12:23 - 6

GW has OVER 1.5 mil people playing it.

Oh, And another thing, this is a different game, you like those games, play those games. Anet isn't going to copy of Blizzard, Just because they have more players.

Wow has also been out MUCH longer than GW, And GW:F, But has much poorer graphics, Lots of bugs, and a not even a halfway compentent dev team.

Gw is Unique, For at least 3 reasons.

#1: There arn't many online RPGs out there. Lots of MMORPGs.
#2: It's got a dev team that's dedicated to this game, and making it better, and fixing exploits/bugs.
#3: it's dialup friendly. What happens to dialup people in those huge PvP's? Down the shute via lag.

Gw isn't another MMORPG, It's an RPG that is played online.

If you like WoW, Don't come complaining to us how GW isn't like WoW because you don't want to play a monthly fee.

Every GW player I know likes the game, So Lots of players don't play it because there's no monthly fee, they play it because they have fun playing it.

I belive GW is what it is, because of it's style. I personally don't want it changed. If I'd wanted WoW, I'd have bought WoW...

Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 12:29 - 7

i dont want GW to be like WoW i want it to be better... and it so can!
they dont need to copy from WoW im sure thet can think by their own thank you very much...
and how long are you going to play this kind of RPG? how long are going to play this dead end pve and this boring pvp that repeats itself ? huh? for how long? i know i had enough from this boring pvp. i have no complains for the pve but the thing that the lvl cap is 20 but the pvp which is the thing that makes you keep playing in most of the games just sucks.

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

06 Jun 2006 at 12:34 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mighty Crash

i dont want GW to be like WoW i want it to be better... and it so can! they dont need to copy from WoW im sure thet can think by their own thank you very much...

Sure... You just said at the end of almost every sentance, Like WoW, Or KO...

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Originally Posted by Mighty Crash

and how long are you going to play this kind of RPG? how long are going to play this dead end pve and this boring pvp that repeats itself ? huh? for how long? i know i had enough from this boring pvp. i have no complains for the pve but the thing that the lvl cap is 20 but the pvp which is the thing that makes you keep playing in most of the games just sucks.

Um, Over a year already.

Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 12:36 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avarre

Races are stupid. Classes are a better system.
Go play WoW.

first of all who said races and classes cant be played together what are you stupid?
and about the go play wow thingy...
maybe i will if GW stays in the lame state it is now...

Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 12:38 - 10

i've been playing GW for more than a year you still havent experienced the whole thing so you are not bored yet... but just wait it will come.

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

06 Jun 2006 at 12:41 - 11

Level cap is great, so don't loose that, grind ftl, really.
Don't change the PvP, many PvP lovers came to GW for that.
Please keep GW instanced, I don't want to run into other players other then my teammates when doing a mission or quest. Bah, imagine people trying to sell me stuff when I'm set off to kill Glinnt.
12v12 is fun, it actually changes something on the map.
Locked gates are great, even if I don't like the fact that I'm getting my third character out of that blasted city, it sure beats seeing level 1's somewhere near the last missions.

I've been playing for 4 months and I can see that I've seen all content (save the elite missions for now haven't had 4 free hours since launch of Factions), still not bored with it though, plenty of things to do, to redo, to farm, title's to earn, other characters to get further, I'm so far from finished with doing stuff it's not even funny.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

06 Jun 2006 at 12:44 - 12

/agree that Guild Wars would be a much, much better game if it was not instanced. However, since they don't charge a monthly fee like non-instanced games do, they won't be able to do that. Guild Wars is not a MMORPG. If you want a MMORPG, unfortunately you'll have to pay monthly for one.

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

06 Jun 2006 at 12:45 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mighty Crash

i've been playing GW for more than a year you still havent experienced the whole thing so you are not bored yet... but just wait it will come.

I guarantee that you haven't done as much in GW as I have, or have experienced the game as fully as I have, both ingame playing and external planning.

Quote:

maybe i will if GW stays in the lame state it is now...

Mind hurrying?

Though just to warn you, most players will consider going to a GW suggestions board and telling them 'be like WoW or the game will fail' is not smiled upon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Navaros

/agree that Guild Wars would be a much, much better game if it was not instanced. However, since they don't charge a monthly fee like non-instanced games do, they won't be able to do that. Guild Wars is not a MMORPG. If you want a MMORPG, unfortunately you'll have to pay monthly for one.

Removing instancing would make a lot of places unbearable... can you imagine if FoW wasn't instanced, and 100 teams were walking through it? Or UW? Those should stay instanced. Quite a few other locations would be really terrible if fully open, so I support the instancing generally.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

06 Jun 2006 at 12:48 - 14

I thought of replying to the OP, but then realized how silly this thread is.

Quoting for the truth:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retribution X

If you like WoW, Don't come complaining to us how GW isn't like WoW because you don't want to play a monthly fee.

Every GW player I know likes the game, So Lots of players don't play it because there's no monthly fee, they play it because they have fun playing it.

I belive GW is what it is, because of it's style. I personally don't want it changed. If I'd wanted WoW, I'd have bought WoW...

Now Mighty Crash, this game obviously isn't for you. Go away.

GreatLich

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

06 Jun 2006 at 12:57 - 15

Mighty Crash, can I have your stuff when you leave?

Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 13:29 - 16

oh you want my 1mil? naahhhhhhhhhhhhh

it goes away with me

Mighty Crash

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 13:31 - 17

i think ill just stop making this stupid game better even if it would be changed WoW rulz.

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

06 Jun 2006 at 13:41 - 18

Yes Chapter 2 have lesser content that's why you connect with Chapter 1. If you love your higher levels and grinds all day, by all means play WoW, or go farm goblin armor in KO.

1 mill in 4 days,what do you hate more? A ranter or a liar?

WoW is a total bore, 1 month free I have 27 days still going and I haven't logged on since first day playing it.

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

06 Jun 2006 at 13:45 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mighty Crash

i think ill just stop making this stupid game better even if it would be changed WoW rulz.

Says the mighty W/Mo.

vaxmor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ascalon

R/

06 Jun 2006 at 14:06 - 20

"good pvp is a pvp like in WOW" (quoted from OP)

response: lol

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

06 Jun 2006 at 14:13 - 21

Well said in all points. Wouldn't surprise me if all these people posting saying GW is fine as is and not an MMO never played a real MMO before.

GreatLich

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

06 Jun 2006 at 14:21 - 22

well, Tarun. what strikes me as odd is that MMORPGs get discussions such as these. I wonder if there's threads like these on say CounterStrike forums with people complaining there's no Redeemer in CS, and that CS could be so much better if only it was more like UT with all those nice weapons from Quake too!
I do not imagine this to be so. Instead I imagine people who feel this way are actually playing UT instead of CS.

Shoitaan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Australia

Tuskforce Supremacy [Tusk]

Me/N

06 Jun 2006 at 14:25 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Well said in all points. Wouldn't surprise me if all these people posting saying GW is fine as is and not an MMO never played a real MMO before.

I played WoW for a year alongside GUild Wars, I left WoW for a reason. If thats truly the direction you want to head in terms of spending your personal time then please by all means get a WoW sub.

And as for 'Good pvp is WoW pvp'
ROFL
There's no way you played that crappy game then.
Battleground waits =
'You have entered the queue for Alterac Valley/Arathi Basin
Estimated Time: 40minutes
Time in queue: 3hrs 22mins'

And then theres the powerfarmer who 1shots you thanks to all his crit gear

and then theres you trying to gank with 800latency...

OH GOD, I MISS IT SO MUCH I THINK I'LL CRY

death fuzzy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nefarius Union

06 Jun 2006 at 14:44 - 24

so you're asking GW to be a game it's not.
good luck there.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

06 Jun 2006 at 14:55 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mighty Crash

i think ill just stop making this stupid game better even if it would be changed WoW rulz.

ummmm..............how can you stop making GW better when you haveny done anything to make it better so far.

if wow rulz your uber item grindmonkey heart go to your love and quickly.

I WANT TO PLAY A FEMALE TROLL

SPECIFICALLY.........

A TROLLOP

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

06 Jun 2006 at 14:59 - 26

I think guild wars could be sooo much better. how I don't think it will get any better. The instance is great in guild wars the level cap is perfect. The lack of rpg will kill the game. The lack of story will kill the game. the lack of freedom in the game, will kill it. Guild wars doesnot need to be like wow. it is far different than wow. The pvp could be hole alot better.

New races would be cool. how ever comparing guild wars pvp to wow. Guild wars pvp is far better than wow by far. iF you are talking about massive armies yes that might work, i say might work. having mounts yes you are right that would be cool.

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

06 Jun 2006 at 15:08 - 27

So, you're saying: Guild Wars would be so much better if it were WoW.

Valdis

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wichita, KS

We Dupe Sojs {DUPE}

W/Me

06 Jun 2006 at 15:08 - 28

I personally like GW the way it is, why would you ask GW to be an inferior product, like WoW?

In GW the game play is much faster in every aspect that I have seen. Though I have minimal actual playing time, my friend plays it and i have to fight to stay awake while I watch him play every Sunday night.
Example: They take 40 people into a dungeon (all level 60).... I sat there in total amazement while these 40 people struggled to kill a level 63 elite... that makes no sense to me... and after they kill this monster they sit there for 15 minuets (literally) before they move on. Someone who has played this, please tell my you wait so long after a battle?
As far as the cap at level 20, KEEP IT! There is no benefit to having a cap at level 60 (soon to be 70 in WoW)... it all works in multiples. If we go to level 60, the only thing that will change is that all the melee and spells damage will be multiplied by 3 and the monsters HP will also be multiplied by 3.. its a wash (unless it makes you feel like a man to see bigger numbers on the screen)
Instanced, KEEP IT TOO ... it sucks having to wait for a boss to respawn.

The thing I love probably the most about GW is Builds..... In WoW you can carry and use all your skills at anytime.. GW forces players to actually think before they leave the town or enter FoW, UW.. If we could carry all our 100+ skills with us at the same time... Game Over. Not to mention, we couldn't see past our skills to actually fight anything

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

06 Jun 2006 at 15:21 - 29

sure, factions got less content than prophecies, but i still love the game, there is room for improvement, and i trust that Anet will do its best to improve the game, personally, i got my $50 worth of gaming time, and yes from time to time i get bored of playing GW, but guess what i do? i go play other games, continue writing my story, do other stuff, remaning away from my pc for a few days, and when i get back, there is a renewed need of gaming.

Anet doesnt have to copy WoW ideas to make this game better, they can and they will develop their own ideas, and will add them as they see fit, after all, its their game.

Valdis

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Wichita, KS

We Dupe Sojs {DUPE}

W/Me

06 Jun 2006 at 15:22 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamhunk

having mounts yes you are right that would be cool.

Mounts are not needed in GW. We can warp from town to town and everything in-between is close enough to run/fight to.

I like WoW's strategy to keep players playing and spending money while not actually doing anything. Once again I watched as my friend bought a ride from one side of the map to another... he paid like 5 silver and watched as his character was flown for 20-25min... a waste of time and money, in my book

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

06 Jun 2006 at 17:27 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by scrinner

And out of those 4-7 Million people we have half of them buying gold/powerleveling/Bots/etc. Guildwars Advertises the fact it uses instances, A difference then in other MMO's.

And out of the 1.5m playing gw, roughly how many do you estimate to be, bots. etc...No different.

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

06 Jun 2006 at 17:41 - 32

I hope you guys don't mind but I'm closing this pile of flamebait.