Meteor Shower
lumii
I want to change my fire storm into a meteor shower. But u cant buy that skill, so has any1 an idea where to find it in factions?
xb0vv
u can buy it mate, do the chaos in kryta quest in keineng city and it takes u to lions arch. If the skill isnt in lions arch then get a run to droks or something
Vahn Roi
...that's assuming he has Prophecies.
lumii
Well i dun have prophecies, so i cant buy it?
Neriandal Freit
Fraid not. There are 'Core Skills' and then you've got 'Prophecy' Skills and 'Faction' skills that will only be aviable if you own those games.
The Great Al
buy prophecies, its a great game
lumii
Lol 
I wish i that i bought it when it came out though... But you guys sure that ther aint a boss in factions that had MS?
I wish i that i bought it when it came out though... But you guys sure that ther aint a boss in factions that had MS?
Francis Crawford
Argo has a monster skill that's a lot like Meteor Shower, but that doesn't help.
Pick Me
Sorry, but there is no such spell in Factions called Meteor Shower.
The best thing you have is Meteor, at least you can buy that.
Meteor Shower is not an elite, so if you can't buy it, which you can't, then you can't cap it either.
I'm sure you can still buy Prophecies. Stores do carry them, and you can still buy them online.
The best thing you have is Meteor, at least you can buy that.
Meteor Shower is not an elite, so if you can't buy it, which you can't, then you can't cap it either.
I'm sure you can still buy Prophecies. Stores do carry them, and you can still buy them online.
Evilsod
That really is low beyond low... Sorry but Anet are just f*cking pathetic for doing that. Meteor Shower is the basic PvE skill a fire ele is asked to carry (at least in Prophecies anyway) and they decide to limit it to only people who own Prophecies? There are about 300 other completely useless Ele skills out there, and they limit the 1 you really need and decide to give you the most useless 1 in the game?
Neriandal Freit
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
That really is low beyond low... Sorry but Anet are just f*cking pathetic for doing that. Meteor Shower is the basic PvE skill a fire ele is asked to carry (at least in Prophecies anyway) and they decide to limit it to only people who own Prophecies? There are about 300 other completely useless Ele skills out there, and they limit the 1 you really need and decide to give you the most useless 1 in the game?
Oh Evil, get over your self. You know that this is a game and doing this helps to encourage the purchasing of other games and also it tells other players who play and buy all the game, making them 'stand out'.
I like how they're doing that, and if you dont (and anyone else) you need to get over it, cause it will continue to happen. If you dont get over it, then get over Guildwars.
I like how they're doing that, and if you dont (and anyone else) you need to get over it, cause it will continue to happen. If you dont get over it, then get over Guildwars.
2ndName
I agree with neriandal.
Anet does not ask us to pay monthly but they offer different skills and extras with every exp.
If they were to give us everything in every expansion, then it beats the purpose of people making purhcases for upcoming expansions.
Nonetheless, Meteor Shower...owns.
Anet does not ask us to pay monthly but they offer different skills and extras with every exp.
If they were to give us everything in every expansion, then it beats the purpose of people making purhcases for upcoming expansions.
Nonetheless, Meteor Shower...owns.
Luciora
I have to agree with both Neriandal and 2ndName... Why do you think they gave us the option of travelling between Tyria and Cantha then?
It sucks to have to go look for the skill, but saving up just a little and getting runs to the required spots is not so bad.
It sucks to have to go look for the skill, but saving up just a little and getting runs to the required spots is not so bad.
lumii
Thanks guys 
Maybe i'll buy prophecies anyway, cuz i like factions alot and i heard that prophecies is better so...
Maybe i'll buy prophecies anyway, cuz i like factions alot and i heard that prophecies is better so...
Robin_Anadri
If you like factions, you'll be absolutely blown away by Prophecies.
Advice: when you get to Lion's Arch, get somebody to run you to Ascalon City and start the missions from there, starting with Great Northern Wall. Things will make a lot more sense if you do it that way.
Advice: when you get to Lion's Arch, get somebody to run you to Ascalon City and start the missions from there, starting with Great Northern Wall. Things will make a lot more sense if you do it that way.
Pick Me
Once you get Prophecies, create a new character. Its worthless to take a Canthas character all the way back to Ascolon city. Reason is:
1) no normal quests available to you before Lion's Arch in Tyria
2) You are level 20 (or there abouts) so monsters back in Ascolong City mean nothing to you
3) Meteor Shower is in a village north of Lion's Arch (I think its called Ascolon Settlement - Captain Greywind is the guy there I think). So don't bother going backwards.
So create a new character in Tyria (the way the games were supposed to be done) and travel your way around. You get to see what troubles the Tyrian's have and you get to know your way around the whole map (go questing).
Elite caping starts off in the desert of Tyria, which is far, far away from Lion's Arch (about 5 or 6 major city missions away).
Once you get Prophecies, create a character, and travel through the tutorial/pre-seering missions (you can't skip this unfortunately). Once you finish with that, then the fun begins. Just take a look at the map (after the tutorial) and you'll see how wonderous Prophecies is (or take you Cantha's character to Lion's Arch and see the map).
1) no normal quests available to you before Lion's Arch in Tyria
2) You are level 20 (or there abouts) so monsters back in Ascolong City mean nothing to you
3) Meteor Shower is in a village north of Lion's Arch (I think its called Ascolon Settlement - Captain Greywind is the guy there I think). So don't bother going backwards.
So create a new character in Tyria (the way the games were supposed to be done) and travel your way around. You get to see what troubles the Tyrian's have and you get to know your way around the whole map (go questing).
Elite caping starts off in the desert of Tyria, which is far, far away from Lion's Arch (about 5 or 6 major city missions away).
Once you get Prophecies, create a character, and travel through the tutorial/pre-seering missions (you can't skip this unfortunately). Once you finish with that, then the fun begins.
Just take a look at the map (after the tutorial) and you'll see how wonderous Prophecies is (or take you Cantha's character to Lion's Arch and see the map).
Evilsod
Bullshit, theres a difference between taking out skills that are for specific builds and taking out skills that are the general purpose of a fire ele in PvE. Honestly who the hell is gonna miss Firestorm? More to the point, who the hell is gonna USE firestorm once they notice that it scatters everything that was just (carefully?) agroed onto your Warrior? At least Meteor Shower did some damage. Its a core skill imo, not a Prophecies skill.
Pick Me
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Bullshit, theres a difference between taking out skills that are for specific builds and taking out skills that are the general purpose of a fire ele in PvE. Honestly who the hell is gonna miss Firestorm? More to the point, who the hell is gonna USE firestorm once they notice that it scatters everything that was just (carefully?) agroed onto your Warrior? At least Meteor Shower did some damage. Its a core skill imo, not a Prophecies skill.
I think that was the point ANet was doing. Take the most basic (most used and possibly the best AoE skill in the game) and make it into a Prophecies only spell. So if people want it, you must get it from Tyria. Those who want an Elementalist from Canthas, but travel back into Tyria to get it. Prior to people finding out about Meteor Shower, people loved using Firestorm. Then MS showed up in the later part of the game (about midway really) and people dropped FS like a rock (or kept it only after MS was cast). Then, the patch that changed the AI came into effect. Now no one has FS because of the AI, and the lack of damage it does.
This becomes a what if scenario, if you didn't have MS, and still had the new AI, would people still use FS? I know I wouldn't, only because of the AI.
This becomes a what if scenario, if you didn't have MS, and still had the new AI, would people still use FS? I know I wouldn't, only because of the AI.
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Pick Me
I think that was the point ANet was doing. Take the most basic (most used and possibly the best AoE skill in the game) and make it into a Prophecies only spell. So if people want it, you must get it from Tyria. Those who want an Elementalist from Canthas, but travel back into Tyria to get it. Prior to people finding out about Meteor Shower, people loved using Firestorm. Then MS showed up in the later part of the game (about midway really) and people dropped FS like a rock (or kept it only after MS was cast). Then, the patch that changed the AI came into effect. Now no one has FS because of the AI, and the lack of damage it does.
This becomes a what if scenario, if you didn't have MS, and still had the new AI, would people still use FS? I know I wouldn't, only because of the AI. Exactly... they knew an ele would need this skill, so they made it a Prophecies skill just to make them buy it. If people don't want your game because it sucks, they shouldn't have to buy it just because they've made a vital skill specific to that campaign. The moment they start doing that i begin to wonder whether they care more about the quality of there games or more about the number they sell.
This becomes a what if scenario, if you didn't have MS, and still had the new AI, would people still use FS? I know I wouldn't, only because of the AI. Exactly... they knew an ele would need this skill, so they made it a Prophecies skill just to make them buy it. If people don't want your game because it sucks, they shouldn't have to buy it just because they've made a vital skill specific to that campaign. The moment they start doing that i begin to wonder whether they care more about the quality of there games or more about the number they sell.
Neriandal Freit
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Exactly... they knew an ele would need this skill, so they made it a Prophecies skill just to make them buy it. If people don't want your game because it sucks, they shouldn't have to buy it just because they've made a vital skill specific to that campaign. The moment they start doing that i begin to wonder whether they care more about the quality of there games or more about the number they sell.
It's both Evil and you know that. It's all apart of keeping people interested and wanting things. They keep things active and keep things free for us, but you want one of the best skills aviable to any and all players? No. One of the best skills should be used by the most involved players who play the game and not spam it.
Edit: And mind you, as my avatar shows, I play a Elementalist. I LIKE having skills only aviable from certain Chapters. As I said before, if you dont like this, maybe Guildwars isn't for you after all
Edit: And mind you, as my avatar shows, I play a Elementalist. I LIKE having skills only aviable from certain Chapters. As I said before, if you dont like this, maybe Guildwars isn't for you after all
lumii
Well I have to say that Neriandal Freit is right, but it is somehow annoying though. But that's not a problem anymore for me, cuz I bought Prophecies today Im absolutely sure im gonna love it 
Im absolutely sure im gonna love it
frojack
I can understand why your all annoyed, but seriously. Meteor Shower? So what? It looks nice sure, and knocks down to, big deal. It takes 5 seconds to cast. Doesn't strike straight away, giving the enemy fair warning it's coming. Cost 25 mana. Takes and un-godly 60 seconds to recharge, and causes exhaustion. In PvP or PvE. It's a poor skill.
This is probably highly controversial but Meteor Shower does indeed suck. Simple Meteor is a far better skill. If you need proper AoE knockdown so badly, use Earthquake/Dragonstomp. It causes knockdown 'when' you need it. It casts in 3 seconds. Recharges in 15 seconds. Sure it give exhaustion also, but it can also be spammed (compared to Meteor Shower anyways') every 15 seconds when you need constant oppression more than high max energy. If your just after suppressive constant nuking, simple.
get dual attunements up and running, then.
Incendiary Bonds> Fireball> Rodgorts Invocation - repeat.
[Btw, Aura of Restoration; At 12 E. Storage, that's 52> 35> 87 healing. Not insignificant and a nice way to ease the pressure off of monks healing petulant wammos]
Due to the differing recharge times, you will have to stagger the casting (unless you use Serpents Quickness). Great time for using a glyph (concentration if you fear interrupts, power for extra Rodgort damage). This is pretty standard stuff.
I'm sure most of you know it. I'm sorry to say it, but I just think Meteor Shower sucks. You get like 3 knockdowns every 60 seconds? Rubbish...
Anyways, Earth line ftw :P.
This is probably highly controversial but Meteor Shower does indeed suck. Simple Meteor is a far better skill. If you need proper AoE knockdown so badly, use Earthquake/Dragonstomp. It causes knockdown 'when' you need it. It casts in 3 seconds. Recharges in 15 seconds. Sure it give exhaustion also, but it can also be spammed (compared to Meteor Shower anyways') every 15 seconds when you need constant oppression more than high max energy. If your just after suppressive constant nuking, simple.
get dual attunements up and running, then.
Incendiary Bonds> Fireball> Rodgorts Invocation - repeat.
[Btw, Aura of Restoration; At 12 E. Storage, that's 52> 35> 87 healing. Not insignificant and a nice way to ease the pressure off of monks healing petulant wammos]
Due to the differing recharge times, you will have to stagger the casting (unless you use Serpents Quickness). Great time for using a glyph (concentration if you fear interrupts, power for extra Rodgort damage). This is pretty standard stuff.
I'm sure most of you know it. I'm sorry to say it, but I just think Meteor Shower sucks. You get like 3 knockdowns every 60 seconds? Rubbish...
Anyways, Earth line ftw :P.
Evilsod
Have you ever been to FoW? Yes, Meteor Shower in most cases sucks, but against a Shadow Monk that *shouldn't* be moving its the end of all creation. Against anything that has a range in a high level area (with few interrupts obviously) the chances are it aint gonna move out of its path. Its only when you start casting it on Warriors that are chasing targets it becomes useless. Its simple, you can't take 2 Shadow Monks down without an incredible DPS (like Barrage teams) or knockdown. Meteor just doesn't cut it.
I don't get what you mean, only the players who buy every chapter should be allowed to kill things effectively? Sorry, but giving everyone Firestorm and only Prophecies owners Meteor Shower just doesn't cut it, its nothing but bullshit. Anyone whos anyone should know that Firestorm sucks completely and utterly, even a new player would be dropping it as soon as they get a full set of skills they can use and need more slots. Meteor Shower has a viable use in killing high level monks, Firestorm has no use, full stop.
All the people who start arguing that Firestorm is great for clearing agro.... perhaps you should try MOVING instead. Personally i hate the recharge on Meteor Shower, hence why i always take GoR with me if i take it. The rest of the team can cover for your lack of energy if you don't take Ele Attune, they can't cover for that Shadow Monk that still isn't dead and is power healing everything your team just did.
Doesn't matter anyway. lumii has Factions so he's ready to find some decent Fire skills
I don't get what you mean, only the players who buy every chapter should be allowed to kill things effectively? Sorry, but giving everyone Firestorm and only Prophecies owners Meteor Shower just doesn't cut it, its nothing but bullshit. Anyone whos anyone should know that Firestorm sucks completely and utterly, even a new player would be dropping it as soon as they get a full set of skills they can use and need more slots. Meteor Shower has a viable use in killing high level monks, Firestorm has no use, full stop.
All the people who start arguing that Firestorm is great for clearing agro.... perhaps you should try MOVING instead. Personally i hate the recharge on Meteor Shower, hence why i always take GoR with me if i take it. The rest of the team can cover for your lack of energy if you don't take Ele Attune, they can't cover for that Shadow Monk that still isn't dead and is power healing everything your team just did.
Doesn't matter anyway. lumii has Factions so he's ready to find some decent Fire skills
Francis Demeules
Firestorm= Scatter mobs= Trigger Fleeing= Always Critical hit = "None Shall Pass"= "Coward"
The way of the Force
The time changes since Faction. Even Water Ele started to show out in PvE.
The way of the Force
The time changes since Faction. Even Water Ele started to show out in PvE.
Neriandal Freit
Actually Franics, I think all the ElementalSides have been showing in PvE since Factions has came about, for now there are more choices (for all classes) and is enabling more choice.
But yes, the Water Ele is beginging to get what he needs.
But yes, the Water Ele is beginging to get what he needs.
Evilsod
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The way of the Force
The time changes since Faction. Even Water Ele started to show out in PvE.
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But yes, the Water Ele is beginging to get what he needs.
A use? Other than snaring a Water Ele can't do much to compete with a Pyros DPS (except maybe Ice Spear). And the problem is way too many people refuse to move anyway, making snaring a bit useless. As for Maelstrom, you might aswell just bring an interrupter unless your definatly gonna be fighting grouped mobs of casters that for some reason your team doesn't feel the need to Meteor Shower? As much as i'd love to play as something other than Renewal Nuker when i go to FoW, its just not happening. I'd probably leave Meteor Shower at home and go for Dual Attunements IF i knew the rest of the team where good, but as i play PUGs as my guild is empty, i have no choice. A trustworthy Mesmer interrupter can work miracles (Need i say Power Block?) but as most groups don't take Mesmers, even though they can practically eliminate healing, there is little choice other than to go Pyro. I apologise if it looks like i'm a Meteor Shower fanboy Its just over its rivals, its alot more useful imho.
Francis Demeules
I stopped being Meteor Shower Fan for a long time............ since players wants only Tanks, Monks, Nuker and MM/SS. I can't do nothing against popularity.
But, seeing always the same thing over and over again is really quite boring.
Evilsod
Yes but so is been unable to kill a Shadow Monk. This sorta spell is vital if you want to have a hope of killing the 4 Ranger + 2 Monk groups near the Tower of Strength. You NEED knockdown and massive amounts of damage to even stand a chance. 2 Meteor Showers does defeat the object of the skill though imo. If you want to do high damage you need 1 Meteor Shower and 1 to just spam the hell out of normal AoE spells.
You'd be surprised how useful MS is in UW. The Chaos Planes its practically a gift from god. Block all the Mindblades on a corner and 1 Meteor Shower and you've just drained 95% of there health. The only difficult part is casting a 2nd skill to finish them off when you can't go /Mes... I haven't played my Ele for a while though, i did use to find Meteor Shower fun, but its lost its novelty recently. I'm back to my reject of an Interrupt Mesmer... Swinging Fists
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Originally Posted by Pick Me
Meteor Shower is not an elite, so if you can't buy it, which you can't, then you can't cap it either.
Huh ? Are you saying that you can only cap elites ? Because if you are, you're dead wrong.
Robin_Anadri
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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists
Huh ? Are you saying that you can only cap elites ? Because if you are, you're dead wrong.
No. They were saying that it's not an elite skill, which would be the only reason that it wouldn't show up at the skill trainer. Since we know it's not elite, and it's not at the skill trainer, that means it's not in Factions - meaning you can't go kill a Factions boss and get it with a capsig.
Raulence
Instead of talking about the fire ele and meteor shower, try to have a look at the earth ele. The skills offerred by NPC will show the difference. Start a earth ele, it is fun as well. (Just personal opinion)
Nivryx
i really dont mind them making it a prophecies skill, its only double beneficial to me. first off, i get it, being an owner of prophecies. secondly, it just might convince some people to buy prophecies instead of just factions, which gives ANet more money, and that means less chance of them having to go to monthly fees to continue production.
ratatass
and btw
Meteor Shower is just outside Lions Arch in The Ascalon settlement. Just hang a left out of portal, cross bridge then hang immediate right. Hit a res shrine and then hang left....when you hit the plain hang right...on the plain intill end of plain then follow the road to the settlement... and if that fails.... read the signs....road is posted. Rat
Shred Dread
I can't really say I like Anet's decision to make Meteor Shower a Prophecies only skill, but I understand it. Without Meteor Shower, the time of the fire nukers, especially echo fire nukers, is fading in Factions. I have both games, and in prophecies, the fire nukers run rampant. In prophecies, 8/10 elementalists are Pyromancers, 0.5/10 are Aeromancers, and 1.5/10 are Geomancers. I have seen maybe 2 Hydromancers the whole time I've played Prophecies. Now, in Factions, you are seeing an improving amount of the other types of elementalists.
Meteor Shower was an undoubtedly awesome skill, but putting it out of the way has really allowed other types of elementalists to shine.
Ole Man Bourbon
I'm not a big fan of MS, either. Seems to cause as much trouble as it does damage, and sometimes it misses completely. There are many other was to deal damage and kd/interrupt enemies.
Shred Dread
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Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon
There are many other was to deal damage and kd/interrupt enemies.
Actually, for a pyromancer, meteor is the only KD spell besides Meteor Shower, I belive. And not too many fire spells deal damage like meteor shower. Some spells may seem like the do, but they usually cause enemies to run away, and much of the spell's damage is therefore wasted.
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