Why have more then 1 armor set...

Elthanor

Elthanor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

IL

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I was just wondering why people sometimes have more then 1 armor set?

I have a Cantha 15k for my warrior, haev sup Abs, on Chest, Major Vig on Leg, Minor Axe on Boots and minor str on my Ascalon arms. I have a Sup Tact Help, +4 tact and A Sup Swor(+4) sword Helm i switch depending on my style.

but what is the reason people have more then 1 set?

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

Different bonuses, like, 1 peice of ascalon/knights armor for the damage reduction. Also, some people have armor sets with specific runes for a specific use, such as farming or whatever.

Ganik Thress

Ganik Thress

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Xen of Onslaught [XoO]

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Some people even collect armors because they like the look of them!

What a shock!

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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And it is just sweet to switch armor's and show off in front of your party :-P

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elthanor
I was just wondering why people sometimes have more then 1 armor set?

I have a Cantha 15k for my warrior, haev sup Abs, on Chest, Major Vig on Leg, Minor Axe on Boots and minor str on my Ascalon arms. I have a Sup Tact Help, +4 tact and A Sup Swor(+4) sword Helm i switch depending on my style.

but what is the reason people have more then 1 set?
Eh..you said it yourself, you also have a different set with regards to your helms...what doesnt make sense to me is why you have minor axe on boots and a duelist +3 Helm, but ok.

In some circumstances you might want to use Legionnaires armor (stance tanking) for instance or for different builds where you need as much energy as you can get you switch to Gladiators.
I like having to option now with truly different armors instead of 80 vs 85 AL as was the case with the Tyrian armors.

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I love coffee

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

NC ( Noob City)

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to disguise them self as noob and then when some1 pick on them aobut ther noobish armor, turn to there awsome armor and kik their butt

Djenghis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

the Netherlands

All the above and for bonusses:

for my Ele I have a hydromancer and pyromancer droks armor:
hydro for the Shiverpeaks and pyro for Ring of Fire etcetera. It's an AL 15% gain, which actually does help a bit.

I believe that all the Ele armors had their stats changed from 15% specific to 10% vs all elemental damage, so the above may not stand ground anymore.

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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Well, I'm experimenting with a W/A atm and as far as I see now the biggest flaw in my build is that I have energy overdose. One energy skill that costs 5 energy and gladiators armor. I should get a new set, since I don't need the extra energy and could use the extra armor.

Shadow Dragon

Shadow Dragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Harrismith, South Africa

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I went for a good prot. Knights set. Works well. i can farm, run a bit, do FoW and missions. the only area that sucks a bit is underworld

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Djenghis
All the above and for bonusses:

I believe that all the Ele armors had their stats changed from 15% specific to 10% vs all elemental damage, so the above may not stand ground anymore.
The new Hydro/Pyro/etc Elementalist armors have 10% vs elemental damage plus 10% vs specific elemental element such as fire or water. So basically, its quite an improvement.

There's also Archmage which gives +HP and Battlemage which has +vs physical.

ange1

ange1

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

armor with different runes for monks

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Dragon
I went for a good prot. Knights set. Works well. i can farm, run a bit, do FoW and missions. the only area that sucks a bit is underworld

Erm, I hate to rain on your parade, but there's no point to a full knight's set. One piece of the armor provides the a same damage reduction as full knight's, meaning you just have less armor with no added benefit.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

PvE enemies use different types of damage in certain areas and if you want to optimize your protection for each area, you use an armor set which gives the best protection against them. Especially ranger has armor sets which give extra +15 armor vs lighting, fire and cold. Mainly good for solo farming if certain elemental damage type is dominating.

dawnrain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

what are you gonna wear when your only armor set is at the cleaners?

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Erm, I hate to rain on your parade, but there's no point to a full knight's set. One piece of the armor provides the a same damage reduction as full knight's, meaning you just have less armor with no added benefit.
Less compared to what? Knights is now +20 vs physical as well.

Full Knights is indeed a bit of a waste but its not less armor as such.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

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ya like everyone else said....

warriro .... glads for running...... 15k cathans for looks.....
monk... 55 for 55 farming ..... 15k cathans for healing
sin.... all looks bad/ulgy just have that normal armor w/ health bonus or enegry bonus.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

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The stats are meaningless, I go for the armor that looks the best.

watrah

watrah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Dynasty Warrior

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I have question about the armor mood

what I mean is there is different mood like +15 Health, Armor +15 whil and so
if I apply different part on me do I get all the mode apply on the Armor or on that particular part only

thx

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Multiple applications require multiple armor sets. I have a +HP set, a boon prot set and a 55hp monk set. I need to add a +e set as well.

For my elementalist, I have a set of +HP with shirt changes against air and water.

For my mesmer, I have a +HP and a +e set.

My rit and necro need more armors, but I am out of storage room at the moment. (Aka, if you see a sell thread of mine, please take something off my hands! )

In addition to full armor sets, my monk and ele (PvP-prepped characters) have hat switches with sups and minors for all attribute lines. Eventually, my other characters will be completely prepped as well, but for now this will work.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

Quote:
Originally Posted by watrah
I have question about the armor mood

what I mean is there is different mood like +15 Health, Armor +15 whil and so
if I apply different part on me do I get all the mode apply on the Armor or on that particular part only

thx
+Armor mods are for certain armor part only. Otherwise it would be very unbalanced. Health bonuses can't be one armor part only so each +hp armor part will give you more maximum health.

boxterduke

boxterduke

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

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-Number one of different armors is just looks.
Have you met a mesmer, even a male one.
All mesmers have multiple armor sets just to change looks. I even played with a mesmer once that kept changing the armors (even combos) as we cleared SF.
-Two is for functionality, MM boots when MM, more energy when nuking or using high energy skills.

Last but not least, look in your closet, do you have one jeans and one T shirt only or you have more??

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elthanor
What is the reason people have more then 1 set?
First an answer to an unasked question: Why do people have 1 armourset?
Answer: because they are poor or don't feel like having a full bag all the time.
These people will use an allrounder armourset like the GladKnights (80al+20vs phys+Energy+2 absorb) or the DreadKnights(90al+10vs phys+2 absorb)
These sets have no requirements, can be used wherever and whenever you want. They won't be good at everything, they're just.. ok

You see that there's already 2 basic alrounder sets.
Someone who has the DreadKnights will probably get the Gladknights for when he wants to make a more energy-intensive build. (Like a pvp shock warrior)
You then have 1.6 (only need 3 parts) to 2 sets.

ZerKnights(80al+20vs phys+ around 30hp+2 absorb) is for those warriors who need a boost to their hitpoints because they are facing enemies that do degen, can spike or because they want to carry additional runes. There probably are more uses for this.
This is the new unconditional armour from factions but I don't see it being widely used. Maybe it is being used but I can't really tell from looking at people.

Then there are the conditional armours.
SentKnights (80al+2absorb.... 100al +2absorb req13str) gives the highest possible defense for non-stance warriors but it requires 13str. (only rivalled by the 110al vs physical from LegKnights) If you don't have 13 str then the 2 basic sets will be better. The condition is to have 13str and therefore you can't always use this set.
If you have 13str or more (dolyakkers will have 15) then this set will be better than DreadKnights and arguably better than GladKnights

LegKnights(80al+20vs physical....90al+20vs physical while in stance) is for the stance tanks. If you're stancetanking then you can do that with the allrounders but you'll do it better with the LegKnights set since it will give you 10 extra al.
This will outperform the DreadKnights set, will arguably outperform GladKnights and will arguably outperform SentKnights if you are facing physical melee monsters a lot. For PvP, if you use sprint/rush/frenzy 100% of the time..


To be average, you can use one of the 3 allrounder unconditional sets.
To be good at everything you do, you'll need all sets.

You may have noticed that there's no pure knights set and that besause of gamemechanics. All other sets except the collector sets will outperform pure knights in every single way.

The first set you buy will have the helmets and the knight boots. All other additional sets you buy will only need the chest, legs and hands unless you use knockdown gauntlets.
So with 5 sets you'll have:
-Axe helm, sword helm, hammer helm, str helm, tactics helm, hex helm and/or glads helm with +energy but no super rune to save hitpoints while under major dp = 7 helms
- Dread chest, glad chest, zerk chest, sent chest, leg chest = 5 chests
- same for leggings = 5 legs
- same for hands+ KD gauntlets = 6 gauntlets
- Knight boots = 1x boots

Total = 24 armour pieces for Jack of All Trades 16 attribute warrior.

The Kensai

The Kensai

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/N

I just stick with the one armour 15k - Luxon - Dreadnought with Duelist Helm.

Works well everywhere with no noticable difference in both PvE, PvP with most other armours.

As for having one bit of knights armour for damage red.. i've fought plenty of them in PvP and they never seem to have the upper hand when it comes to damage control whilst smashing em with me sword.

I mean sure there must be some difference in all the armours but its so small its nothing ur going to loose sleep over.

As far as the energy boost is concerned with glads armour warriors really should not NEED that xtra energy (unless shocking) as alot of our best offensive moves depend on Adrenaline anyway and i never seem to run out of energy o.O .... but whatever thats just my opinion i guess ^_^

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Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

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My Necro has three. One for SS, one for 55 farming, and one for Blood.

ThePadawan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Augury Rock

Xen of the Pacific [XoO]

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I keep my weapon enchancing runes on my helm (I've got one executioner+axe, duelist+sword, knights+strength, and a liuetenant's helm+strength), when it comes to hammers, the 100g at merchant isn't much during the odd time I use one--which has been close to never. I've got a full set of glads+knights boots, but also legionaire arms/torso/legs for farming (+vs. physical, +while in stance). Tbh, Tyria armors can't keep up with Cantha's.. one of the main reasons why I'm stuck between 15k Kurz or a set of 15k glads, even though I find the glads miles away better looking (and timeless ).

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

My monk alone has 3 different sets of armor for PVE/PVP and 8 scalp designs.

1st set is the astetics armor. this is my general PVE/PVP armor as its my all around armor and generally used for everything.

2nd set is a full health set in case im facing a spike or fast degen, it can help to give me/other monks a little more healing time.

3rd set i have is the armor while enchanted chest/legs and astetics hands/feet. this is my armor i will use whenever playing boon prot or bonder or any build where im having a maintained enchantment at all times.

Then i have a scalp design set both with all minors and with all superiors, again depending on build is very useful.

With my warrior i found it different as i only needed 1 armor set and its a mix set in 15k Kurzik. it uses the glads chest and legs, ascalon boots, and stonefist hands.

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

I have different pieces mostly for situational playing, so depending what im playing(blood\death\uw\55) depends on my armor... got to admit, its pain on space carrying the extra armor about.. but ive just created a "armor storage" character on my 2nd account to free up some space

Zephyr Jackson

Zephyr Jackson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kansas

E/Mo

i have 5 helms 2 chest pieces, 2 sets of boots, 3 leggings, 3 gloves, and i still find a time or two when this isnt enough armor.

Lt. Helm +3 tactics shortens hex time by 20%
Ascalon Helm +4 Tactics
Duelists Helm+4 Sword
Dwarven helm+4 hammer
Executioners Helm+4 axe

Glads chest-3
Sentinel's Chest-3

Ascalon Gloves+1 str
Glads Gloves+1 str
Sentinel's Gloves+2str

Ascalon Leggings
Glads Leggings+41
Sentinel Leggings+41

Sentinel Boots
Glads Boots +1 Tactics

Sora

Sora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hong Kong

Guardian of Old Ascalon (GoA)

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I have all 4 set of 15k elementalist armor, and I change them depends on the situation