Perma-Shelter Builds

Not much to say here...you're full of spirits, which is what Rt suppose to be doing. not much to say here..... you dont know much about the ritualist class though

not much to say here..... you dont know much about the ritualist class though Think what you want, but my Rt with spirit(s) is better than your spiritless Rt

Think what you want, but my Rt with spirit(s) is better than your spiritless Rt there are more types of rits then your stereotypical spirit rit. Think about channeling and rit tanks....

You'd want to think about the atts on the defensive rit, you'd want spawning power for the +hp to the spirits. Soothing Memories with nothing to hold to abuse it with? Strange to say the least. I guess I could drop Life for Generous Was, or Mighty Was to help gain energy back from Soothing Memories, though I'd almost prefer Spirit Light instead since there are spirits around anyway.

Also, I guess I could drop Restoration down to 13 or so and put those points into Spawning.

You want to kill off a spirit every now and then anyway (with Soul Twisting), so points in spawning isn't that important. But more than what I've got would probably help.

Side note: I too have seen a lot of good rit builds without spirits. I don't see the logic to the argument that they MUST have spirits with them at all times.

spirits are the way to go with any rit build wrong...

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Why not just use rit lord to keep shelter up?

You can get it so shelter has a ~12 second recharge, which means youll be able to keep it up for roughy the same length of time as you cn with this build, and you can spam ohther spirits as well.

oljomo I agree that rit lord is good if u put points into spawning and then you might as well use boon of creation too. The rit lord build is out there, this is just an alternative, which allows for different things. Rit lord has to typically do 16 (or 13) Spawning and 13 (or 16 Communing), but these builds have low spawning as you can see. Just an alternative. That's all.

The first build heals better than a rit lord and the second does more dmg than a rit lord. I've seen some guilds run these builds, and thought I'd post them for all to see.

Thanks for the comments everyone.

There's a big issue with trying to keep a spirit up permanently while trying to do something else, especially something big like healing the party. With Soul Twisting, you're always going to want to keep an eye on your spirits. You've alleviated some of that with having other spirits available for sacrifice, but still the main idea is to kill Shelter before it dies so you can put it back up, right? Which is what makes Ritual Lord so nice, because you just have to wait for the recharge.

Between putting up Shelter and Union and Soul Twisting (and your other spirits for the Channeling build) the whole fight, when you do get time out to heal the party, your heals will clear your energy (which has already been lessened by casting your spirits) pretty quick since you'll be spamming 5 and 10 point heals. And as far as energy management is concerned, you're going to want to fit that in somewhere. What happens if you get enough energy to cast Shelter but not enough for Soul Twisting and Shelter is being eaten up by an Esurger or nuker on the MM's minions. You only have a level 7 spirit up and with only 4 points in Spawning, your spirit doesn’t have that much energy. If your not quick on the draw, you'll be Shelterless for around 5-8 seconds while you cast and sacrifice and recast Shelter. Not a lot of time, but enough for an adrenaline spike or even fast cast spike to kill someone if the timing came around like that.

Interrupts will also be an issue. If a team...that's working together, finds out what your doing, they just attack Shelter and interrupt your sacrificial spirit once you start casting it. And where this build can shine is against a fast cast air spike. But then they Gale you, kill Shelter, and your out long enough to spike someone out. Granted that in a team build all of these issues are for the team to work out, but since you are a support class, some of that may fall to you. Good points. For PvP, you probably have to go Mes secondary and take Mantra of Resolve or Concentration. Due to the large area effect of spirits you can stay well behind the backline so the other team has to get through the rest of your team to get to you. Also, if you're interrupted during casting Shelter you're screwed, even if you're using Ritual Lord. Rit Lord only works on rituals you successfully cast.

The issue with Shelter dying off before you get to use Soul Twisting on it is why I recommend Destruction (20 sec recharge), even if you have no points in Channeling.

Perhaps dropping a skill for Draw Spirit so you can cast Shelter from afar and then pull it within range of your team might help.

I've seen guilds use builds like this with success early in Factions when people didn't know much about Rits. Things have changed mucho since then

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i dont need to repeat myself
scroll up You haven't actually said anything...

You said, "you are wrong." And then you repeated, "you are wrong."

Sorry, kid, but that doesn't count as an argument.