Requesting official statement from Anet about GW supported on Vista or not. - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Jun 2006 at 08:59 - 1

Windows Vista and Direct X 10 have been delayed to Jan 2007 depending on vista beta 2 feedback, that means after CH3 release within 2-3 months.

Since many of GW fans and i will upgrade to vista when it comes, i hope to hear official word from you guys that GW will be supported on vista and DX 10 or at least you are keep tracking this event. I don't want to choose between my new OS and my favorite game.

thanks in advace Anet.

PS: i see beta testers participating in GWG forums..did they start testing GW on vista beta 2 and give Anet feedback about crashes or bugs ?!!

Makkert

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The Netherlands

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07 Jun 2006 at 09:05 - 2

I'd be suprised if you get an 'official statement'. Maybe a remark, but not an official statement. Regularly I see threads like 'ANET DEVS READ THIS', 'PLS ANET FIX THIS', 'OPEN LETTER TO DEVS', etc.

These shout outs on forum are numerous....... and never ending. Some have a point, some are pointless... I wonder if they will still read threads like this after the many that have passed their eyes in the past.
But good luck, maybe they'll give it a peek...

~ Makk.

Dzan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Black Dye Cartel

07 Jun 2006 at 09:12 - 3

One of the major tech sites did an artical about current popular games and how well they run (if at all) on Vista Beta 2.

Guild Wars ran with flying colors, even in windowed mode.

Kaguya

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Moon

Mo/

07 Jun 2006 at 09:22 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzan

One of the major tech sites did an artical about current popular games and how well they run (if at all) on Vista Beta 2.

Requesting link

Vista supports DX9 (and runs on DX9 if there is no DX10 hardware present), so every WinXP game that works on DirectX should work on Vista, if there are some exceptions to that I'd be happy to read more on that

And I doubt majority of people will hop onto the Vista bandwagon right away, especially with the heavier system requirements, not everyone has the super gaming rigs.

vvv- Thanks! One additional nail to 'Why StarForce sucks' too :P

koneko

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Mo/Me

07 Jun 2006 at 09:25 - 5

Will Vista Run Your Games? - extremetech.com

Minus Sign

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Mo/N

07 Jun 2006 at 09:42 - 6

GWF and GWP both work in Beta 2.

twicky_kid

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07 Jun 2006 at 09:50 - 7

Windows is still going to support compatability mode so I don't see why this is even an issue.

Snowman

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Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

07 Jun 2006 at 09:54 - 8

its a valid question!

but its so long away I agree with Makkert, they are not likley to give an official comment.

Also, what actually are the chances of it NOT working?.. I hardly think that ANET will just ignore this. they will HAVE to make it work, otherwise Guildwars has a very short life.

koneko

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07 Jun 2006 at 10:00 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

Also, what actually are the chances of it NOT working?

The chances of Guild Wars not running properly? Minimal. The chances of Vista not running properly? Well....

Mysterial

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Servants of Fortuna

E/Me

07 Jun 2006 at 11:50 - 10

Why do you care? If you're smart, you're not getting Vista until forced to, at which point they've (hopefully) ironed out most of the serious bugs.

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

07 Jun 2006 at 12:15 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysterial

Why do you care? If you're smart, you're not getting Vista until forced to, at which point they've (hopefully) ironed out most of the serious bugs.

I didn't mention in my OP about forced to change to vista..nobody is forced to change to vista when it become released..but people will buy it anyway because of its great features.

"ATI or Nividia will not state on their site that all their customers don't upgarde your OS to vista because we are busy of releasing graphic cards these days and we don't have time to test our cards on vista and you have to wait."

GranDeWun

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Join Date: May 2005

07 Jun 2006 at 12:28 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by koneko

The chances of Guild Wars not running properly? Minimal. The chances of Vista not running properly? Well....

Yeah, anybody who plans on 'upgrading' to Vista before they pry XP from you by force is a masochist.

Whether games will run is going to be the least of your worries...

Rhedd

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07 Jun 2006 at 12:51 - 13

Actually, zakaria, people WILL be "forced", eventually.

If past experience serves as an example, when Vista is released, it'll instanty become pretty much impossible to buy a new system with XP.

As long as you NEVER need a new computer... well then, great!

Kaguya

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Moon

Mo/

07 Jun 2006 at 13:15 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhedd

As long as you NEVER need a new computer... well then, great!

Who buys prebuilt systems with pre-installed XP anyways?

Snowman

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Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

07 Jun 2006 at 13:28 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by koneko

The chances of Guild Wars not running properly? Minimal. The chances of Vista not running properly? Well....

rofl!

yea its true.. most sensible people would probably not upgrade straight away, especially not gamers..

however, some people like to be at the cutting edge of Microshite's operating systems so its still an interesting topic, if nothing else.

Tijger

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Mo/E

07 Jun 2006 at 13:38 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaguya

Who buys prebuilt systems with pre-installed XP anyways?

Most people actually.

OT:
As far as compatability goes, thats a non-issue, DX 9 is fully supported on Vista, I think some might be confused about DX 10 which will be Vista only.

The games that currently have issues running on Vista's Beta releases were simply badly coded since the problems with most of these games have been solved by patches from the game makers.

Badger2

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R/

07 Jun 2006 at 13:56 - 17

This may be addressed elsewhere but, IMHO, a better question is will GW ever run on Linux?

Hockster

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07 Jun 2006 at 13:58 - 18

I'm playing Guild Wars on Vista Beta 2 right now. Runs like a charm.

Serafita Kayin

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07 Jun 2006 at 14:16 - 19

Installing GW on Ubuntu Linux as we speak. Takes a lot of configuring though...

Kern Wolf

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NJ

W/E

07 Jun 2006 at 14:20 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mysterial

Why do you care? If you're smart, you're not getting Vista until forced to, at which point they've (hopefully) ironed out most of the serious bugs.

Agree....
LOL..when Microsoft starts issuing Service pack updates for Vista 2 MONTHS before it gets released (like they did with XP), people better start worrying about Vista working correctly 1st....

Loviatar

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Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Jun 2006 at 14:29 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kern Wolf

Agree....
LOL..when Microsoft starts issuing Service pack updates for Vista 2 MONTHS before it gets released (like they did with XP), people better start worrying about Vista working correctly 1st....

ummm..........i am waiting until they issue the Nth service pack for the Nth-1 service pack before trying it.

CyberNigma

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San Antonio, TX

W/R

07 Jun 2006 at 16:33 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makkert

I'd be suprised if you get an 'official statement'. Maybe a remark, but not an official statement. Regularly I see threads like 'ANET DEVS READ THIS', 'PLS ANET FIX THIS', 'OPEN LETTER TO DEVS', etc. These shout outs on forum are numerous....... and never ending. Some have a point, some are pointless... I wonder if they will still read threads like this after the many that have passed their eyes in the past. But good luck, maybe they'll give it a peek... ~ Makk.

Sometimes they'll give something that's official which isn't important enough for the press release. Also, the reason you see so much stuff like that in the forums is because the buck was passed to the fansites. There is no 'Official ANet Forum', just a link to preferred forums at fansites. Its a way to offload the support forum costs onto other people without committing yourself to them. That said, this is probably the best place for questions and discussions like that. ANet reps are posting official and non-official tid-bits all the time. It's part of the price of being a preferred fansite listed on GW's website.

EDIT: best place meaning this website's forums. another forum might be better off (or even a new forum such as questions to arenanet - Q&A I think is player-driven)..

Kyosuke

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07 Jun 2006 at 17:11 - 23

I think anyone who buys Vista right away is a moron. No offense, but people seem to forget how rough and unstable the first releases of XP were... You're better off waitnig abotu 6 months until they get a good stable version of it.

Dzan

Wilds Pathfinder

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The Black Dye Cartel

07 Jun 2006 at 17:37 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyosuke

I think anyone who buys Vista right away is a moron. No offense, but people seem to forget how rough and unstable the first releases of XP were... You're better off waitnig abotu 6 months until they get a good stable version of it.

Actually XP was as stable for me upon launch as it is today.

What I do remember is a lot of elitist dorks who said statements like, "Windows 2000 is perfect and stable, I see no reason to upgrade." Or "I'll move from Windows 2000 when they force me to."

Same tune now, and the result will be the same: Vista will be perfectly fine to use at launch, they will stay on XP for a while until they give into peer pressure and switch and then they will spam forums with some line in an attempt to rewrite history about how unstable Vista was at launch, and anyone who adopted it before them was a total fool and anyone who adopts it after them is a dinosaur.

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

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07 Jun 2006 at 17:44 - 25

I'd bet all my GW gold (and real money to boot) that Anet is busy testing GW builds with Vista Beta as we speak. Most, if not all, software companies are testing their products on Vista. It's the future Windows. There's no way around it. While Anet hasn't given "official word," I have no doubt it'll run on Vista. Also, look at the review someone kindly posted. It lists many games, including GW, that already run on Vista. If you don't want to bother looking, GW passed with flying colors.

Ghull Ka

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Grenths Helpdesk

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07 Jun 2006 at 17:59 - 26

Who cares if Vista will run GW? Vista doesn't exist. Probably never will, either :wink:

Zehnchu

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[GODS]

Mo/Me

07 Jun 2006 at 18:08 - 27

Vista is what they are calling it now? Wonder what the price tag this new cow patty will be. And if it will have a major security flaw like XP did when it first came out and six months later and MS didn’t bother telling the consumers about it.

Whispering Siren

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07 Jun 2006 at 18:23 - 28

I'm waiting for the day that GW will run on Mac. puhleese?

(and no, I don't mean running Windows on a Mac like you can now do - that's sacrilegious)

TheProject

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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The Living Hell Pheonix

Mo/Me

07 Jun 2006 at 18:52 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whispering Siren

I'm waiting for the day that GW will run on Mac. puhleese?

(and no, I don't mean running Windows on a Mac like you can now do - that's sacrilegious)

lol, I know what you mean, one of the people I worked for would find all sorts of things on the internet, like a keylogger stuck into someones brand new Dell Laptop, or how Microsoft released a statement that their new windows will run like a Mac's old OS (can't remember the name, like Tiger or something)

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

R/

07 Jun 2006 at 18:59 - 30

Hey, I know,
MS can send out 12 patces the first 24 hours after release
just like .-... did.

Quote:

And if it will have a major security flaw like XP did when it first came out and six months later and MS didn’t bother telling the consumers about it.

Well if you have a legal copy of Windows you get the security updates.

Numa Pompilius

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Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

07 Jun 2006 at 19:02 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minus Sign

GWF and GWP both work in Beta 2.

As they should. Most of the games which do not work with Vista don't work because of their moronic copy-protection crap - e.g. you can kiss all games protected with Starforce prior to version 3 goodbye if you go to Vista.

Guildwars isn't copy-protected.

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

07 Jun 2006 at 23:01 - 32

It would be suicidal for them to not have been testing for Vista compatibility as a major software developer. Microsoft has repeatedly said that they will discontinue mainstream support for Windows XP one year after Vista is released. They were recently nice enough to extend that to two years after Vista. When Microsoft discontinues mainstream support for a Windows version, companies have usually stopped bothering to make their software work with it since they have long since focused their compatibility and development on newer versions of Windows by then. I see no reason why ANet would be any different, especially since most users buy OEM computers (Dell, Gateway, HP) and OEMs stop offering older versions of Windows relatively quickly after a new Windows is released. Does ANet want to screw every potential customer who buys a new computer after Vista comes out? I doubt it.

Summary: unless someone at ANet is intentionally trying to kill Guild Wars, Guild Wars should work on Vista when it comes out. You should worry more about bugs in Vista since every new operating system has unforseen bugs when it is released at retail. Grab Vista 3-6 months after it is released if you can, you should be able to avoid a lot of problems that way.

dargon

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07 Jun 2006 at 23:11 - 33

Just incase anyone actually wants to test it, microsoft has now released the public version of Beta 2. You can download it from the following link.

http://download.windowsvista.com/pre...6/download.htm

And for any who are 'concerned' that it's not a microsoft.com site, domain registry lookup tells me Microsoft owns windowsvista.com so it's about as safe as any beta software can be (unless it's from google where damn near everything is beta

)

EternalTempest

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07 Jun 2006 at 23:29 - 34

It should be fine

Other forums users have mentioned it runs fine and read a article on game "testing" on Windows Vista and GW was one of them.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...68995%2C00.asp

Quote:

Guild Wars
Guild Wars, the sort-of massively multiplayer game with no monthly fee from NCSoft, appears to run wonderfully under Vista. All the game functions work fine, the background auto-downloading of game content zips along at a healthy pace (at least as fast as it does under XP), performance seems snappy, it runs in a window, you name it. In fact, all that's left is for it to show up in the Games Explorer, which it currently does not. Continued...

So a feature they could add it to make it show up in the Vista's new "Games Explorer" function (which also ties in to the parental Ratings lock control system).

koneko

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08 Jun 2006 at 04:33 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whispering Siren

I'm waiting for the day that GW will run on Mac. puhleese?

Mac and Linux...but ArenaNet just doesn't care for anything but the majority.

GWOnline Interviews ArenaNet, March 2006

Quote:

Guild Wars has been out for a little over 10 months now, and at the time of release, there was talk about possibly making the game compatible with Mac's and/or Linux based computers. Is that project still in the works, or has that been scratched?

We won’t scratch the idea from our list, but there are no immediate plans to release on additional operating systems or platforms. At the current time, PCs and Windows are where we want to be. In part this is focus, and in part it’s utilizing the system and OS that has been chosen by an overwhelming percentage of players.

While I'm on this random tangent, here's something that makes me both angry and sad.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

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Shadowlight Order [SoR]

08 Jun 2006 at 04:39 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serafita Kayin

Installing GW on Ubuntu Linux as we speak. Takes a lot of configuring though...

Hmm. How hard? I've been thinking of switching my 2nd boot from Fedora Core to Ubuntu Drake. If it's not too crazy I would love to get GW to run in Linux.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koneko

While I'm on this random tangent, here's something that makes me both angry and sad.

Aww. I didn't see the picture at first. That's just lame. I was so stoked to imagine the possiblity. Bah.

koneko

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Mo/Me

08 Jun 2006 at 04:41 - 37

Be prepared to pay a monthly fee for Cedega. Reviews of performance range from "yucky" and "iffy" to "good."

Or, you could use the free versions...which don't really work, as you can see.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

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Shadowlight Order [SoR]

08 Jun 2006 at 04:48 - 38

Subscription services to use anything on the computer are the new IWAY business model flavor of the month. Greedy bastiges.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

08 Jun 2006 at 09:02 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyosuke

I think anyone who buys Vista right away is a moron. No offense, but people seem to forget how rough and unstable the first releases of XP were... You're better off waitnig abotu 6 months until they get a good stable version of it.

I was running XP (thanks to MSDN) before it was officially released and it was never unstable. 99.9% of stability issues come from drivers, 100% of drivers that cause instability where not certified.
The only time I had an actual BSOD on XP occured when I installed one of the 'beta' NvIdea drivers.

Run any OS with uncertified drivers and you run the risk of instability and system crashes, the second leading cause is poorly coded 3rd party software.

As for GW not supporting other OS'es, since GW uses DX 9 it would require a large scale effort from Anet to support OS X and Linux, considering the marketshare of those particular OS' I highly, highly doubt this would be worth the investment other then from an ideological standpoint. It certainly does not make financial sense.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

08 Jun 2006 at 09:08 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheProject

lol, I know what you mean, one of the people I worked for would find all sorts of things on the internet, like a keylogger stuck into someones brand new Dell Laptop, or how Microsoft released a statement that their new windows will run like a Mac's old OS (can't remember the name, like Tiger or something)

And I bet he believes everything he reads on the Internet too, huh?