Kryta and Ascalon enemies?
Matsumi
I walked out of ToA and noticed right away that little Thom said this. Not really clear about what time frame he's referring to, but I found it interesting.
Rathcail
That would be the time before searing when Kryta, Ascalon and Orr was having their Guild Wars.
Matsumi
Oh, ok. Sorry, never heard about that.
Vahn Roi
I thought the Guild Wars ended when Grenth lost his throne...that was way before the time Pre-sear ascalon takes place, by that point the Guilds had been confined to the battle isles.
That's what I gathered anyway.
That's what I gathered anyway.
Rathcail
What pre-searing Ascalon guard has to say about this:
Also from the The Lore of Guild Wars book that was included with the game:
"The Guild Wars raged for decades, fuelled by the desire for power and the influence of the Bloodstones. Never did the peace accords last long. Never did the negotiations take root. The conflict claimed the lives of many hundreds of thousands. It uprooted families, made neighbours into enemies, and soured the relations between the human nations, perhaps irrevocably."
"Eventually, as all things do, the wars did come to an end. But it was not the words of the silver-tongued peace negotiators or even the rough hand of a conquering hero that ended the Guild Wars. The resolution was instead brought about by an even greater war - a war brought by the Charr. In unprecedented numbers, the beasts from the north swept down through all three human kingdoms. Ascalon, Orr and Kryta, embroiled in conflict with one another for more than fifty years, dropped their grudges and turned their attentions to defending their borders against the new threat."
Also from the The Lore of Guild Wars book that was included with the game:
"The Guild Wars raged for decades, fuelled by the desire for power and the influence of the Bloodstones. Never did the peace accords last long. Never did the negotiations take root. The conflict claimed the lives of many hundreds of thousands. It uprooted families, made neighbours into enemies, and soured the relations between the human nations, perhaps irrevocably."
"Eventually, as all things do, the wars did come to an end. But it was not the words of the silver-tongued peace negotiators or even the rough hand of a conquering hero that ended the Guild Wars. The resolution was instead brought about by an even greater war - a war brought by the Charr. In unprecedented numbers, the beasts from the north swept down through all three human kingdoms. Ascalon, Orr and Kryta, embroiled in conflict with one another for more than fifty years, dropped their grudges and turned their attentions to defending their borders against the new threat."
abyssal hunter
didnt thom die? and if so then how come he is a henchman? that has always confused me, that and why old mack has a name changed from old mack from pre-searing to old mac in becons
Francis Demeules
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didnt thom die? and if so then how come he is a henchman? that has always confused me, that and why old mack has a name changed from old mack from pre-searing to old mac in becons
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Canadian Bacon
It was Seargent Brannen (I think) that Thom put his crets on to fake his death.
Rathcail
Not to mention that the dead guy is much thinner than Thom.
Storm Crow
To be extremely specific:
1070 AE - Guild Wars End
1071 AE - Bay of Sirens is renamed the Sea of Sorrows
1072 AE - Present Day (Pre-Searing Ascalon)
1074 AE - Present Day (Post-Searing Ascalon)
So, four years after the Guild Wars, King Adelburn banished Prince Rurik when the Prince suggested Ascalons go to Kryta and rebuild their strength.
Direct quote, King Adelburn NPC, Final Cinematic, Nolani Academy Mission - "I will not allow Ascalon to live in the shadow of the Krytans! You are no longer my prince, and you are no longer my son!"
1070 AE - Guild Wars End
1071 AE - Bay of Sirens is renamed the Sea of Sorrows
1072 AE - Present Day (Pre-Searing Ascalon)
1074 AE - Present Day (Post-Searing Ascalon)
So, four years after the Guild Wars, King Adelburn banished Prince Rurik when the Prince suggested Ascalons go to Kryta and rebuild their strength.
Direct quote, King Adelburn NPC, Final Cinematic, Nolani Academy Mission - "I will not allow Ascalon to live in the shadow of the Krytans! You are no longer my prince, and you are no longer my son!"
Anakin The Paladin
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Originally Posted by Rathcail
That would be the time before searing when Kryta, Ascalon and Orr was having their Guild Wars.
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Rathcail
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Originally Posted by Storm Crow
To be extremely specific:
1070 AE - Guild Wars End 1071 AE - Bay of Sirens is renamed the Sea of Sorrows 1072 AE - Present Day (Pre-Searing Ascalon) 1074 AE - Present Day (Post-Searing Ascalon) |
1070 AE - Charr invade human kingdoms
That's the searing. 1070 is the Present Day of pre-searing Ascalon and 1072 is the real Present Day.
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Ristaron
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Originally Posted by Storm Crow
To be extremely specific:
1070 AE - Guild Wars End 1071 AE - Bay of Sirens is renamed the Sea of Sorrows 1072 AE - Present Day (Pre-Searing Ascalon) 1074 AE - Present Day (Post-Searing Ascalon) So, four years after the Guild Wars, King Adelburn banished Prince Rurik when the Prince suggested Ascalons go to Kryta and rebuild their strength. Direct quote, King Adelburn NPC, Final Cinematic, Nolani Academy Mission - "I will not allow Ascalon to live in the shadow of the Krytans! You are no longer my prince, and you are no longer my son!" |
Ah, yeah... as Rathcail beat me to saying, you are incorrect.
1070 - Charr Invade Human kingdoms
1070 - Guild Wars End
(they ended because the Charr invaded, hence why it's on the same year)
1072 - Present Day (post searing)
I understand where you got confused, they shouldn't have made two slots for the same year, but instead continued with a semicolon ';' following the first article.
But, for the record, it's only 1072 in the Post Searing part of the Prophecies campaign.
Storm Crow
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I disagree with this. The one line previous to "Guild Wars End" you didn't include in your list:
1070 AE - Charr invade human kingdoms That's the searing. 1070 is the Present Day of pre-searing Ascalon and 1072 is the real Present Day. |
Francis Demeules
When the Charr brung the Wall down, many of them have passed. These Charrs were going to Orr to destroy it (managing to go there is really shroud in the mystery except there was a bridge that passed to go to Crystals Desert in Regent Valley). Charrs live in the north of Ascalon (maybe all the north of Tyria).
Storm Crow
I didn't understand anything written in that post ^
Rathcail
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If you read everything in the manuscripts I believe it states that Kryta was able to destroy the Charr invading their country, and that Orr was sunken by the King's advisor when the Charr pushed through the gates of Arrah. Nowhere does it say specifically that the Searing was in the year 1070, although it does state that Ascalon had been defending it's wall for years before the Searing
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Searing started the Charr invasion. They went through the wall by destroying the Ascalon area and moved on to other targets.
Edit: Some more quotes: "While Ascalon, Orr and Kryta were busy fighting each other, they became blind to the threat from the north - the Charr. The northern beasts swept in, taking Ascalon in a spectacular magical battle."
"The Charr had to make their way through Ascalon before they could reach the gates of Arah. But eventually Ascalon fell and the Charr arrived in Orr."
ZenRgy
Also the quest in Pre-searing where you carry the honeycomb over the bridge, you get that from a Krytan and she says I know you would be less than enthusiastic to help since our nations are at war... Or something like that.