Bed of coals
15 energy cost, 1 sec time, 30 seconds recharge
Spell. Create a Bed of Coals at your location. For 10 seconds, foes standing still near this location are struck for 5...24 fire damage each second. Any foe knocked down on the Bed of Coals is set on fire for 3...6 seconds.
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Fire storm
15 energy cost, 2 sec time, 30 seconds recharge.
Spell. Create a Fire Storm at target foe's location. For 10 seconds, foes adjacent to that location are struck for 5...24 fire damage each second.
Whats the thing? Even though Bed coals mentions that it strikes foes only "standing still" , it has an advantage of 1 sec cast time, range(near vs adjacent) and burning when knocked down. In my opinion, this should be solved in a specific way, since it's quite imbalancing.
Making either of those come true, would do imo.
1) Improve damage of Fire storm, or weaken Bed of coals damage.
2) Give 2 seconds cast to bed of coals
3) Make the recharge on bed of coals 10-15 sec longer, or shorten fire storm recharge by like 10 seconds.
4) Set fire storm energy cost to 10. I'm least after this one, but it's still a sollution.
Imbalances between Bed of coals and Fire storm
Spoony
Ira Blinks
firestorm is a classical example of why eles blow as damage dealers. Comparing it to anything is poinless.
Kakumei
Because what we need is to make Fire spells worse.
Spoony
Worse? why worse, when eles blow as damage dealers, and other classes can outdamage them, and its not true that they do the most damage in one hit than any other class.
Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Spoony
Worse? why worse, when eles blow as damage dealers, and other classes can outdamage them, and its not true that they do the most damage in one hit than any other class.
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The vast majority of fire spells are awful. You're suggesting that one of them might be a bit better than Firestorm, and should thus be worsened. This is a bad idea.
Spoony
Nothings perfect ;O ;P
AnnaCloud9
Firestorm has the advantage (though we're comparing a classic fire ele skill to a new Factions one) of having a casting range, whereas Bed of Coals, does not. Granted, even though I no longer use Firestorm, this is a huge unseen and often overlooked advantage when using ele skills (especially to those who just want to see giant explosions and bodies hitting the floor). Try casting Bed of Coals through a wall, or over a bridge ;-)
Either way, they both scatter the AI
Either way, they both scatter the AI
TheLordOfBlah
Its fine, dont nerf the eles AGAIN.
Age
I would have to say that this is replacement for the aoe affect of firestorm.That is bed of coals and it is a nice skill for fire Eles.
Spoony
Oh i did not say nerf Eles. I just seen no diffrence in energy cost and recharge, and Bed of coals > fire storm in most factors, that's what i mean.
relaxed
bed of coals is not flat-out > firestorm. it totally depends on your build and needs.
you're not comparing apples to apples.
bed of coals = your location (defensive skill)
firestorm = foe's location (offensive skill)
you're not comparing apples to apples.
bed of coals = your location (defensive skill)
firestorm = foe's location (offensive skill)
SonofGrenth
I agree, I think that Fire Storm and Coals don't need to be nerfed. Coals is more for defending then attacking, and you also need to stand still to take damage.
Fire Storm on the other hand, is pure dmg (it doesn't matter if you are moving) so i think that equals the 1 second casting time.
~Grenth
Fire Storm on the other hand, is pure dmg (it doesn't matter if you are moving) so i think that equals the 1 second casting time.
~Grenth
Dahl
I find firestorm better actually.
If you're stupid enough not to recognize bed of coals and don't move out of it, then you deserve to get hurt by it.
If you're stupid enough not to recognize bed of coals and don't move out of it, then you deserve to get hurt by it.
Lordhelmos
Man... If your this heated about bed of coals I wonder what you would say when I hit you with my 18 earth obsidian flame?
Heh if your gonna stand in a bed of coals how about you walk into my crystal wave too? Talk trash about eles then.
Or better yet, go ahead and frenzy while I put on my silver armor (:
Heh if your gonna stand in a bed of coals how about you walk into my crystal wave too? Talk trash about eles then.
Or better yet, go ahead and frenzy while I put on my silver armor (:
Evilsod
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Oh i did not say nerf Eles. I just seen no diffrence in energy cost and recharge, and Bed of coals > fire storm in most factors, that's what i mean.
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led-zep
i cant understand why any ele would want to use firestorm at all after the aoe nerf. only frustrates the hell out of everyone else in the group.
Kizukaseru
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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos
Man... If your this heated about bed of coals I wonder what you would say when I hit you with my 18 earth obsidian flame?
Heh if your gonna stand in a bed of coals how about you walk into my crystal wave too? Talk trash about eles then. Or better yet, go ahead and frenzy while I put on my silver armor (: |
Joh
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Originally Posted by Kizukaseru
I have yet to see someone spell that correctly.
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As for topic, /not signed.