Why should I buy Factions given all the negative opinions of it here?

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arcady
arcady
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
Reading reviews, Factions reads like the best thing since sliced bread. But every thread on it on this board is highly negative.

But obviously a lot of people are still playing their copies of it. So, why should I get it? What about it do you like?

I'm only a few weeks into owning Guild Wars, and I am a PvE only player. I keep feeling the pull to go buy Factions as well - and everyday I come in here and the place talks me out of it. Can anyone counter that? Is there anyone who likes it?
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Dzan
Wilds Pathfinder
#2
BEcause these people would complain about anything. You could be giving out a free lapdance from jessica alba along with a $5000 visa giftcard and people would be bitching that Visa sucks and American Express is better.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#3
Its up to you. If you want it, buy it. If you dont because of negative reviews, dont. I bought it, do I regret it? No. If you buy it will you regret it? Maybe. Do some people like it? No. Will you? Could be.
Dr Strangelove
Dr Strangelove
Furnace Stoker
#4
People aren't going to be posting on a forum if they have no complaints and want nothing changed. Factions is awesome. Better than Prophecies IMO. Guild Wars is one of the best games I have played.

That being said, there are always ways to change for the better. This doesn't mean things aren't good now, but that they could always be better.
Don Zardeone
Don Zardeone
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
Yeah, people complain about everything.
For example, the elite missions.
First they complain that they can't enter them. Then when they CAN, they complain they can't enter them whenever they like.
Once they're inside, they complain about not finding people to do the mission with. Then they complain about how hard the mission is. Once they find that the Deep is much easier, they go there complain some more and then they complain that the Deep is too easy.
Then once they're done complaining about that, they're complaining about people like me complaining about them.
Once they have rushed themselves, skipping all content, going straight for the elite mission while not trying to find builds for it but instead copying other people builds which takes them 5 minutes to do, they complain about factions having zero content.
ANet tries to fix that by forcing these people to NOT skip content but then the people start complaining that they can't skip the content that apparently doesn't exist.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Demesis
Demesis
Banned
#6
It's because when people find the game good, they'll be too busy having fun with it to even post here.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Zardeone
Yeah, people complain about everything.
For example, the elite missions.
First they complain that they can't enter them. Then when they CAN, they complain they can't enter them whenever they like.
Once they're inside, they complain about not finding people to do the mission with. Then they complain about how hard the mission is. Once they find that the Deep is much easier, they go there complain some more and then they complain that the Deep is too easy.
Then once they're done complaining about that, they're complaining about people like me complaining about them.
Once they have rushed themselves, skipping all content, going straight for the elite mission while not trying to find builds for it but instead copying other people builds which takes them 5 minutes to do, they complain about factions having zero content.
ANet tries to fix that by forcing these people to NOT skip content but then the people start complaining that they can't skip the content that apparently doesn't exist.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
QFT

In short terms, people will complain about anything and everything
Thallandor
Thallandor
Desert Nomad
#8
I tend to agree since i am a big complainer of factions that there are some valid points that needs addressing but often a negative approach attracts more attention and comments and hopefully with enough pages in a thread Anet may do something about it.

Its just how the forums work, dont worry about it. Be warned though, the Review mags/online site have in their best interest to promote the best side of any game, thats how they generate revenue. Take those with a pinch of salt as well.
S
Swinging Fists
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Zardeone
Yeah, people complain about everything.
For example, the elite missions.
First they complain that they can't enter them. Then when they CAN, they complain they can't enter them whenever they like.
Once they're inside, they complain about not finding people to do the mission with. Then they complain about how hard the mission is. Once they find that the Deep is much easier, they go there complain some more and then they complain that the Deep is too easy.
Then once they're done complaining about that, they're complaining about people like me complaining about them.
Once they have rushed themselves, skipping all content, going straight for the elite mission while not trying to find builds for it but instead copying other people builds which takes them 5 minutes to do, they complain about factions having zero content.
ANet tries to fix that by forcing these people to NOT skip content but then the people start complaining that they can't skip the content that apparently doesn't exist.
And then if ANet changed everything they wanted, they'd complain that they're bored... because they have nothing left to complain about.

Buy Factions... You know you want to.
Don Zardeone
Don Zardeone
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Game mag reviewers sometimes know what they're talking about. They know their stuff.
However, they can't say whatever they want. So basically all they say went through the moneypress.

Then there's the forums, where nobody knows what the hell they're talking about....

=D
EternalTempest
EternalTempest
Furnace Stoker
#11
Postive Things about factions from a PVE perspective

Lots of new skills
Two new professions
New armor types
Accelerated Level 20 advancement quicker (more high end level 20 content)
13 new missions
Lots of new quests
Three new types of pve missions
"Challenge" Time missions (2 or 3 of them)
2-Competive PvE Missions
2-Co-Operative Pve Missions
Far greater xp / money rewards for quests mission
Get to choose what skill you get to buy vs had feeding you certain "paths" via quests in the 1st GW
Very easy to ability to change which "side" you belong to Lux/Kuz

Even though I do think there flaws with factions, I do enjoy factions and happy with my purchase.

Advice - Assasins have a hard time find groups (too many of them + War/Mo trying to use them a "tanks" which doesn't work giving them a bad rap).
R
Rieselle
Krytan Explorer
#12
I think it depends on what sort of player you are and what you are looking for.

If you are a pvp player, or an experienced rpg gamer, I'd say buy Factions and play that first - you level up to 20 (where the "real game" tm begins) much more quickly, and you have many more choices in skills early on. The monster combat is also more interesting and diverse in GW:F.

Then take your character back to GW1 and do what you want there. Also if you prefer to play with other people, GW:F is currently much more lively than GW1 for obvious reasons.

If you are a pve-oriented, inexperienced player, then GW1 will lead you into things much more gradually and gently, and you can play at a more relaxed pace. Buy GW:F later when you want something new.
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anonymous
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demesis
It's because when people find the game good, they'll be too busy having fun with it to even post here.
QFT for every 1 person that posts something negative, there are about 10 silent ones enjoying the game.
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous
QFT for every 1 person that posts something negative, there are about 10 silent ones enjoying the game.
there must be millions of silent ones
lg5000
lg5000
Jungle Guide
#15
Those who like it don't complain here.. or post here.. cause they're too busy playing. Or at least, that's how it was in the first 3 weeks of the game.

The fact that your characters get more variety in armor (and looks of armor) should count towards the decision of buying factions. Or am I really that shallow?

Nothing beats getting lost in Keineng city due to the somewhat chaotic layout of the map.

And both the Kurzic side and Luxton side look awsome and the Luxton quests are hillarious.

Then there is the fact that in factions, bosses work differently than in prophecies, adds more interest to it.

Btw, how far are you into prophecies? If you're past droknars and are enjoying that part of the game, then get factions. If you're not there yet.. you could wait a bit longer unless you'd like the opportunity to create an assassin or ritualist, or just want a different look for the main profession characters.

Faction's version of pre-searing is not pre-searing and is available to lvl20 characters as well.

I enjoy factions, however, I can't play atm hence, I ramble here.
Jas D
Jas D
Krytan Explorer
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzan
BEcause these people would complain about anything. You could be giving out a free lapdance from jessica alba along with a $5000 visa giftcard and people would be bitching that Visa sucks and American Express is better.
EDIT by Swehurn - flame removed.

Factions is repetitive. Too many fanboi's on here take things seriously and can't realize a good game when they see it. Prophecies is better..

Factions is good for making money and getting skills, I guess. Not many good skills IMO. It depends on what you like I suppose.

I'm not saying Factions is a "bad" game.. it's just.. boring after you beat it a few times. And it's fustrating. I'm not a fan of bosses who do 2x damage than normal.
Griff Mon
Griff Mon
Wilds Pathfinder
#17
The fact that people are complaining and praising loud and hard about this tells you that there is a lot of passion about this game.

That should tell you a lot. People are not passionately discussing things unless they care about it a lot. So, even if they are unhappy, they do care about this game.
Jas D
Jas D
Krytan Explorer
#18
Speaking of negative.. does anyone else think that it's pathetic that the "The Biggest Jerk You Ever Encountered in GW (no posting names)" thread has as many posts and views as it does. >_>

Anyway.. I suggest you probably SHOULD buy it. New content is always nice.. not much else to say.
Opeth11
Opeth11
Desert Nomad
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymous
QFT for every 1 person that posts something negative, there are about 10 silent ones enjoying the game.
The stats are more like : For every 2 complainers, 1 is enjoying the game. =D
Seems reasonably correct.
F
Forbes
Academy Page
#20
Ok. My first post about Factions after having actually gotten a character through the final mission. I like it, but more in the sense because it is something new, not because it is better than Prophecies. I'm PvE oriented so that is mostly my take on it. The style is different, the look is different, and the way you play certain things is also. I also am not overly impressed with the "amount" of new skills for the older classes. Though the new classes are very nice and I am currently having a blast with the ritualist.

My take, it is good but I liked Prophecies better, maybe because it was first, I was newer to the game, therefore it was more of a wow factor. Factions does have some great art work (I spent the first week running around admiring the sites).