gyala hatchery (luxon)..how to beat it?

go the back way
-or-
bring a healing hands/healing seed monk for the turtles. some would also say heal area but i never needed that. hh was plenty for masters, even the front way.

be sure to set cannisters properly at all times.

The back way worked for me every time....the only difficult part of it is when certain players, after having agreed to the statement "Do not talk to the turtles", then go off and talk to the turtles. Consequently all the turtles die. Oh, the guild wars world would be a much better place if people payed even a minute amount of attention to what was being said before missions begin.

the back way works fine, the trick to the first spawn that attack you straight after you walk back to the turtles is to rush to the middle of the baby turtles and drop all 3 smoke canisters there. Rush to the front and then take out the three jugernauts, you wont even have to fight any of the others because as soon as they go near the baby turtles they die

Dropping canisters on the turtles is key whichever way you're doing it, it keeps the young turtles alive more effectively than anything you can do.

Trapper trapping young turtles, bonder or spirit spamming ritualist help a lot too if you're doing it the regular way.

I'll add a few. I'm in favor of doing this mission the normal way.

1.) Trapper needs to bring Heal Sring. It helps if its an Oath Shot Trapper, and can drop a heal spring indefinately.

2.) A MM or Warrior needs to engage the ranged attackers and eles from a distance. Slightly out of range of the young turtles, but still in range of cannons.

3.) Juggernaughts first. ALWAYS. It only takes one warrior or the MM to keep the Rangers and Eles busy. It only takes one trapper to keep the Warriors busy. So focus on the Juggernaughts first. If your trapper is trustworthy, use the canisters to take out ranged attackers next, then drop them to finish off the warriors.

4.) As long as you keep the cannons alive... You really don't need many direct damage dealers on this mission. While their in short supply, bringing three monks and dedicating a monk to healing the turltes is hardly overkill. Bonder's work like a dream for this.

No matter what, try to do not lose any turtle cannon in normal way. The difficulty will increase. Like Snipious said, Juggernaut first. 3 hits by cannons on them do the trick.

I've done it both ways. The first time was the straightforward way and we had a good mix of chararacters. I was the monk responsible for the turtles and the other monk took care of the human players. I used a few protection spells, but mostly healing breeze to keep my turtles alive. Having a necro with well of blood helped as well as a ritualist with protective spirits around the turtles. We only used one smoke cannister, instead of all three. Just have one cannister directs the fire power of all three siege turtles to one target. The tank who carried the can knew the placement of where to put the can, so it helped.

I also did it the back way with my tank. It was easy enough, just had to pull groups so we didn't aggro everyone at the same time. I think having more tanks doing it the back way helps, whereas less tanks are probably needed in the front way. Once we killed all the groups, we went back and got the turtles. We still had a couple groups left to kill, but it was very easy and smooth sailing to the gate after that.

The last time I did this with my guild we were just having fun. And it really is great fun! We had along an A/W since he needed the mission. An E/Rt for wards and Shelter. An E/(can't remember) for wards and damage, he also placed the canister. The rest were monks! We had 3 guild monks and the 2 henchie monks. Few missions have ever been as easy as that was.

The siege turtles were our damage. Only one canister was used so they would focus fire. The canister placer also used ward agains foes at the location of the canister so that the movement would be slowed. It is best to have that person be someone that is also very familiar with the spawns and movement of the enemy.

A single trapper can lay waste to Juggernaughts alone. They walk that slowly (before crippled) they'll walk over everything you lay down. All it takes is Barbed, Flame, Vipers and Dust and a huge portion of there health is gone and degening fast. Plus Whirling Defences is good for scattering agro That damn Complicate gets a *bit* annoying though. Healing Spring is a bit overkill if you have a dedicated healer for the turtles and a spirit spammer. You'd be better off focusing on the enemies.

Ward Against Foes is a good 1 to put on 1 side while the turtles nuke the other side.

Prot spirit on turtles = gg

Didn't have a problem keeping the stupid pug + turtles alive with it

A pug I was with 2 days ago did it with ease. Things that helped:

Ritualist with spirits (Union, Shelter, Displacement, Shadow Song...)
Healers (well, that's a no brainer)
Minion master (helped slow stuff down, added damage)
Blood/Death support necro (Well of Power/Well of Blood = +12 pips regen on all turtles once you get some kills near them, lots of energy for healing, putrid explosions, Well of Suffering eats away any who stay around too long)

Really this is a mission that you could do with 8 monks all specced to prot/heal. The siege turtles dish out enough damage if you use them right.

You need:
1 Monk or Ritualist
7 other people (2 of whom need to know how to use the smoke)

If you have a monk: Bond young turtles and be prepared to heal.
If you have Rit: Shelter/Union/Displacement spam the turtles and be prepared to heal.

Most of your damage is done by turtles. Don't feel you need to drop all 3 smokes, as this divides your fire too much. I often only grab 2 cannisters to prevent this. If things get hairy near turtles, drop a smoke right near them.

Other helpful skills:
Healer to follow party
Ward against Foes: keeps them in turtle radius
Blind/cripple
Minions

Once you reach the Hatchery and Afflicted come, drop smoke right in doorway and let them come to you.

I just completed this, after a few tries. I did it with my mm (with well of blood) and henchmen

Don't take any fighter type henchies just ranged attackers.

It might go slowly but follow behind the lead turtle at all times, when they stop drop the smoke in the middle of the turtles and don't allow yourself to be lured away from there.

Anything that comes in close to attack will get smushed by the turtles, use their corpses for minions and occasionally wells of blood.

I got through with all 3 siege turtles and only lost one of the young.

When you come to afflicted Just put the smoke at the gates where they wander in and use your minions, you'll be constantly summoning.

Simple. By the way only got masters award on that one.

you follow the right wall and go around killing everything, then once all is dead run back to the turtles, and escort them. (there wont be much that pops). when you get to the gatee put the canisters in a line, then the cutscene should start. skip the cutscene, and watch things die. you win.

Use a Minion Master.

Seriously, i got fed up with PUG's trying to do the longcut cheap way, so I went with 7 henchmen (Longbow, Interrupt, 2 Monks, Ritualist, 2 Warriors). I went around the long way and aggroed like a noob W/Mo the whole time and cleared the whole place with ease (It doesn't help that minions will chase after anything in range). Your minions will die, but the mobs will too.

Anyway, after I cleared the beach, the large tent thingy, I just dropped a canister on the young turtles and camped. It was easy going after that (though all my minions were at -10 degen).

My friend on monk was having trouble with the mission, so I used the same strategy with him, and got masters reward again.