So im helping a friend of mine forge 15k armor and a lag spike hits while he is trying to make a helmet. Because the game counted it as a triple click the poor SoB has 3 15k endgame helmets with MY materials. I'm unbelievably pissed. Please put a message up when you click craft.
"Are you sure you like to forge blah blah blah?"
We spend alot of time gathering materials and cash to make this crap. First time this happened and I hope the last. Please fix this. To me, who lost alot with this BS, this is a huge issue. I don't ever want to see this happen to another player. Please make armor crafting as secure as trade.
/Signed with blood
Please! For the love of god... implement this.
Lordhelmos
lightblade
...this is such a minor thing...
I don't think Anet is going to implement is just because of YOU one customer is unhappy
I don't think Anet is going to implement is just because of YOU one customer is unhappy
-Loki-
People craft the 15k helmets?
Lordhelmos
maybe im just an unlucky SoB.
Lordhelmos
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...this is such a minor thing...
I don't think Anet is going to implement is just because of YOU one customer is unhappy |
Arkantos
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I don't think Anet is going to implement is just because of YOU one customer is unhappy
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Cracko
Agreed. happened to me twice ^^
Viruzzz
well. really. no offense.
but if you click "buy" more than once during a lag spike you are retarded..
everyone knows the game does register it. doing it is just stupid
but if you click "buy" more than once during a lag spike you are retarded..
everyone knows the game does register it. doing it is just stupid
Desbreko
Simple solution: Click the craft button once, and if it doesn't register right away, just wait. If it doesn't register after a while, close the crafter window and wait till the lag subsides (look at your radar and watch for jerky movements of people running around town), then try again.
Lag won't turn a single click into three. It will only delay or stop that single click from having its effect.
Lag won't turn a single click into three. It will only delay or stop that single click from having its effect.
Jiao Yang
It was purely his mistake for being impatient. Lag happens, deal with it.
I agree that Anet arn't going to change this because a few players make mistakes. There are over 1 million people playing this game.
I agree that Anet arn't going to change this because a few players make mistakes. There are over 1 million people playing this game.
AlyssaMarcia
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Yeah, still some serious BS tho. Ahhh so gay, so much time gone to waste.
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Taurus
I'd say Anet should implement pokemons and pokeballs before implementing this.
so
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so
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Raiin Maker
meh crafting 3 15k helms is nothing, my mate crafted 4 sets of FoW boots. needles to say he has never been on since then.
EagleEye33
I;m sure if this were to happen to many many people it would happen. But for now "patience is a virtue" 
Lordhelmos
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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos
So im helping a friend of mine forge 15k armor and a lag spike hits while he is trying to make a helmet. Because the game counted it as a triple click the poor SoB has 3 15k endgame helmets with MY materials. I'm unbelievably pissed. Please put a message up when you click craft.
"Are you sure you like to forge blah blah blah?" We spend alot of time gathering materials and cash to make this crap. First time this happened and I hope the last. Please fix this. To me, who lost alot with this BS, this is a huge issue. I don't ever want to see this happen to another player. Please make armor crafting as secure as trade. /Signed with blood |
CartmanPT
I would sign if the message was like this:
"Are you sure you want 3 helms that do exactly the same or its just lag?"
/not signed
"Are you sure you want 3 helms that do exactly the same or its just lag?"
/not signed
Ira Blinks
to all the smartasses
Go to any online shop.
Fill in credit card info (if you have such, which I doubt you do, but I'm sure your daddy can borrow you one).
Hit submit to get to confirmation screen.
Pull out you internet cable.
Hit submit on confirmation screen.
Hit same submit again.
What do you get? You get friendly message about not clickin submit button twice and being patient... This is standard practice for any valuable transactions in distributed inviroment. If the site of your choice doesn't do that, close it and NEVER go to that url again. Even this very forum should prevent you from making same thread twice (iirc it was a hack in version vB 2.x, I'm not sure if it was moved to codebase in 3.x).
So my professional opinion is that ANet developers should get off their ass and start implementing things the way they supposed to be, especially something so dead simple. If someone tells me this takes more than 5 minutes to do (not involving localization for the popup text) he is simply not worth his salary.
I mean how bloody hard is it to detect that player is crafting the same item he crafted just a second ago? This is HIGHLY unprofessional to leave this kind things in the system. I still recall getting it rubbed into my face by my team leader last time something I made was vulnerable to double clicks and somehow made it thru QA, and it wasn't even charging customer anything.
Go to any online shop.
Fill in credit card info (if you have such, which I doubt you do, but I'm sure your daddy can borrow you one).
Hit submit to get to confirmation screen.
Pull out you internet cable.
Hit submit on confirmation screen.
Hit same submit again.
What do you get? You get friendly message about not clickin submit button twice and being patient... This is standard practice for any valuable transactions in distributed inviroment. If the site of your choice doesn't do that, close it and NEVER go to that url again. Even this very forum should prevent you from making same thread twice (iirc it was a hack in version vB 2.x, I'm not sure if it was moved to codebase in 3.x).
So my professional opinion is that ANet developers should get off their ass and start implementing things the way they supposed to be, especially something so dead simple. If someone tells me this takes more than 5 minutes to do (not involving localization for the popup text) he is simply not worth his salary.
I mean how bloody hard is it to detect that player is crafting the same item he crafted just a second ago? This is HIGHLY unprofessional to leave this kind things in the system. I still recall getting it rubbed into my face by my team leader last time something I made was vulnerable to double clicks and somehow made it thru QA, and it wasn't even charging customer anything.
lishi
this isnt like a change so big witch arenanet will use 30 developer for 1 week to develop -_-.
actually becouse im stupid i sold a green shield to the mercant ...
that mean i should pay attention? yes
But everwhere on everthing there is a message box with yes/no... why dont implement it?
actually becouse im stupid i sold a green shield to the mercant ...
that mean i should pay attention? yes
But everwhere on everthing there is a message box with yes/no... why dont implement it?
Retribution X
Well, Why don't we actually talk about those of us who Saved up for Fow, but the sets we now have are not even perfect?
All my friends with FoW don't use it anymore because their FoW is underpowered.
It's really annoying when you've got all the 15k sets and then they update 3 armors AL. (I should Know, It's happened to me...)
That's the larger problem than the 3 helms...
The new armor has been out over a month and a half, and we haven't gotten our armor updated.
All my friends with FoW don't use it anymore because their FoW is underpowered.
It's really annoying when you've got all the 15k sets and then they update 3 armors AL. (I should Know, It's happened to me...)
That's the larger problem than the 3 helms...
The new armor has been out over a month and a half, and we haven't gotten our armor updated.
Isis Mordecai
basically its not fool proof, anyone with brain cells to rub together, would click n if nothing seemed to happen check their inventory especially with such a high end purchase before going happy clicker on the craft button.
CartmanPT
Personaly, i hate those yes/no messages.
I´ve already sold a 10/10 staff with nice upgrades to merchant, and bought some unwanted stuff, but its was because i was paying zero attention to the game and what was doing, so it war 100% my fault.
If they decide to implement that, ok, one more window to confirm, but still not signed
"Are you really really sure you want to sell 2 char carvings to merchant??? Maybe you can get a nice hat in next halloween" Yes/No/Ask merch to wisp offer (NO NOOB MERCHANT)
I´ve already sold a 10/10 staff with nice upgrades to merchant, and bought some unwanted stuff, but its was because i was paying zero attention to the game and what was doing, so it war 100% my fault.
If they decide to implement that, ok, one more window to confirm, but still not signed
"Are you really really sure you want to sell 2 char carvings to merchant??? Maybe you can get a nice hat in next halloween" Yes/No/Ask merch to wisp offer (NO NOOB MERCHANT)
Ira Blinks
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Personaly, i hate those yes/no messages.
I´ve already sold a 10/10 staff with nice upgrades to merchant, and bought some unwanted stuff, but its was because i was paying zero attention to the game and what was doing, so it war 100% my fault. If they decide to implement that, ok, one more window to confirm, but still not signed "Are you really really sure you want to sell 2 char carvings to merchant??? Maybe you can get a nice hat in next halloween" Yes/No/Ask merch to wisp offer (NO NOOB MERCHANT) |
When you buy the same item with less than a second interval (especially if aprior knowledge is that specific item is not even meant to be bought twice EVER) it HAS TO raise the flag to the user.
As I said this is standard practice and shame on those who ignore it.
CartmanPT
If it only trigger at the second click at the same piece it would be ok to me, since it will not change anything to people that buy armor carefully instead of trying to break the "click on mouse" world record.
The original ideia was everytime you click, and that would be boring
The original ideia was everytime you click, and that would be boring
xiaotsu
Eh, make your friend pay you back for being impatient :| Most people know that when something does buy right away, it's a lag spike, and they wait it out. Making a new update to help idiots from wasting their beloved money and materials would be pointless
@Ira Blinks: And that has what to do with lag? Yet again, intelligent people know not to click multiple times, warnings are nice in real life, but in a game, stupid people shouldn't get updates specifically for them
How about instead of asking for pointless updates that an intelligent(yes, it's tough to find intelligent people in a game, I know) person could avoid, ask for the updates we NEED, like fixing the collisions so I can stop getting stuck in mid-air
@Ira Blinks: And that has what to do with lag? Yet again, intelligent people know not to click multiple times, warnings are nice in real life, but in a game, stupid people shouldn't get updates specifically for them
How about instead of asking for pointless updates that an intelligent(yes, it's tough to find intelligent people in a game, I know) person could avoid, ask for the updates we NEED, like fixing the collisions so I can stop getting stuck in mid-air
Beat_Go_Stick
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Agreed. ANet has much more things to do, there not gonna go out of their way for 1 customer.
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Agreed. happened to me twice ^^
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Seriously tho, people are being jerks about it but the fact of the matter is it happens to pretty much everyone once. Yes it would be great if A.Net fixed it but adding a confirmation to crafting would unfortunately annoy a lot more people than it would please.
We all craft more than one of something once. It totally sucks when it happens (lucky for me, it was the 1.5 Droknar Knights Boots) but I doubt A.Net will change it anytime soon.
Personally, I think it would be a great addition for the 15k armorers to have a confirmation screen. 1.5k doesn't need it but FoW and the other 15k sets could really use it. That mistake hurts and not one of you who have had it happen can say you didn't wish there was some form of confirmation in place for the expensive stuff at that time....
Ira Blinks
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@Ira Blinks: And that has what to do with lag? Yet again, intelligent people know not to click multiple times, warnings are nice in real life, but in a game, stupid people shouldn't get updates specifically for them
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There are things that are very basic and HAS TO be done. There are things that are more complicated and can not be solved by 5 minute hack. General development logic is that you do small things first, so that bby the end of the day you have bunch of small things done, rather than just one big thing half done.
Collision detection problem is very important, yes, but it doesn't make this issue any less stupid, annoying and easily fixable.
Vilaptca
Personally, I'd rather not have another part of the game have messages asking me if I'm sure everytime I want to do something. The whole 20 questions thing in Factions to enter towns was annoying enough.
I've had this happen before. I play on wireless, so lag can be completely random. I've learned that, if you craft one piece of armor at a time, and only carry the necessary materials, or at least money for that one piece, then you won't accidently craft more than one when a lag spike occurs.
I think if they were to add this in, so that it doesn't annoy everyone who wants to craft anything at all, they would make it so that a message comes up if you craft the same thing again. Even if you crafted it 6 years ago, if you have it in your inventory or have it equipped and try to craft another one, it will ask you "Are you sure you want to craft this? You already have one in your inventory."
Then when people return from their lag spike, they find this message, and just click no, then they only have 1 helmet. Unless they just start clicking all over the place and click the yes button...then thats their fault for clicking everywhere while lagging out.
Also good advice for everyone, "If you already hit the print button, and its not printing, wait a while to see. Do NOT keep hitting the print button. You will end up printing your project multiple times." (I love computer class in high school.)
I've had this happen before. I play on wireless, so lag can be completely random. I've learned that, if you craft one piece of armor at a time, and only carry the necessary materials, or at least money for that one piece, then you won't accidently craft more than one when a lag spike occurs.
I think if they were to add this in, so that it doesn't annoy everyone who wants to craft anything at all, they would make it so that a message comes up if you craft the same thing again. Even if you crafted it 6 years ago, if you have it in your inventory or have it equipped and try to craft another one, it will ask you "Are you sure you want to craft this? You already have one in your inventory."
Then when people return from their lag spike, they find this message, and just click no, then they only have 1 helmet. Unless they just start clicking all over the place and click the yes button...then thats their fault for clicking everywhere while lagging out.
Also good advice for everyone, "If you already hit the print button, and its not printing, wait a while to see. Do NOT keep hitting the print button. You will end up printing your project multiple times." (I love computer class in high school.)
Does-it-Matter
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Knowing and doin is two very different things. People get tired, people get annoyed and impatient. Repeating the action if first one didn't have any effect is very natural behavior. I don't see what does this have to do with inteligence.
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Honestly, its a one-time mistake. You do something THAT big, you realize it and hopefully never do it again. With most people I seem to encounter on the issue hit happened MUCH earlier on with less expensive items.
I don't know though, to me, if I click a button that says "buy" twice, I would expect to buy it twice. After all, that's what happens at a merchant if you attempt to buy say two Salvage Kits.
Does ANet have to make a notice that monsters can kill you if your life drops to zero? I guess some people have to learn things in more painful methods.
MMSDome
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Lag is your problem not theirs. Click once and you know you got the armor. Sorry for your loss, but thats life.
It also may be your failure to pay attention, we all do it. Once i bought 200 dye removers instead of 200 ales. Just smack yourself in the head and laugh.
Lag is your problem not theirs. Click once and you know you got the armor. Sorry for your loss, but thats life.
It also may be your failure to pay attention, we all do it. Once i bought 200 dye removers instead of 200 ales. Just smack yourself in the head and laugh.
Mr_eX
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The last thing this game needs is to be dumbed down with lots of unnecessary "are you sure?" notifications. The fact NPCs' dialog pops up in Factions is bad enough.
Make your friend pay you back overtime for being impatient. Much better solution.
The last thing this game needs is to be dumbed down with lots of unnecessary "are you sure?" notifications. The fact NPCs' dialog pops up in Factions is bad enough.
Make your friend pay you back overtime for being impatient. Much better solution.
BeowulfKamdas
i knew i would regret opening this link 
well, much like all those guys complaining about getting ripped on trades, live and learn
At least you can have the minor/superior sets to switch when you are in PvP :x
well, much like all those guys complaining about getting ripped on trades, live and learn
At least you can have the minor/superior sets to switch when you are in PvP :x
Swinging Fists
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At least you can have the minor/superior sets to switch when you are in PvP :x
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Also, perhaps ANet could add the following additional warning messages to the game:
Are you sure you want to use Frenzy while being attacked by this mob ?
Are you sure you want to pay for this run ahead of time ?
Are you sure you don't want to switch off your vampiric weapon while you're standing here waiting for the mission to start ?
Are you sure you want to cast Mending ?