Thx ANet! Hench rezzing much improved.

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Friday update seems to have VASTLY improved hench AI involving rezzes. Anyone else notice this?

Mtank325

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

I'd say it has improved, but I'd say there's still a wee bit of a problem. I don't think the healers should be rezing in the middle of battle still, which I've noticed still happens as they'll take vital time on casting which they could be doing on healing. At least the prot henchies don't use rebirth all the time anymore. Uck that was annoying. But good un' them for realizing and fixing the problem.

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

/agree

This is really a nice improvement

Desert Penguin

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/Mo

I haven't played much with henchies for 2 weeks or so. How has the rezzing been improved?

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I notice that henchies res you the moment you died. But i still notice one weird problem, if someone else on the team died, than they would start ressing that toon and forget about healing you.

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

I am glad that when there are 2 henchies with hard res, and I didn't take the hard res off my bar I don't have to res instead of the henchies.

That was really annoying...

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

I'm not exactly sure what was fixed, but I can't tell. I was caping an elite around perdition rock last night with an all hench party including Mhenlo and Lina. Lina died, and I let Mhenlo stand over her dead corpse for almost 5 minutes, but he would never res her. I had no choice but to just kill myself and start over, because I had brought a cap sig inplace of my normal res sig.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Now they just need to fix the problem of the hench needing to be right NEXT to the corpse just to use res. Thanx for running right into a middle of a mod to cast a 6 sec spell.

Its a ranged spell. USE IT LIKE ONE!!!

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Please, last night, I spent half an hour looking at the protector healer hench run back and forth for half an hour between me and Tia, with me typing in all sorts of names (at which point I gave up). I even got a series of screens caps. So my opinion the hench AI still sucks.

Siddious

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Knights Of The Rising Sun

I like the new hench AI for monks. I think it has vastly improved

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

One caveat: I've only used the Cantha henches since the update.
It may just be playing style. I usually take healer and protector. The whole hench team used to collapse if either went down, but now they seem to be back in the fight right away, and at decent health levels. And they seem to be smarter about rezzing me if I go down - not right away, but not 5 min after battle either.

exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

The new ai is super :P

Although it isn't exactly assassin friendly, they use all their res sigs on you and you die just 5 seconds later because you are still banged by hordes of ennemy's :P

but atleast we got rezzing henchies

Way to go ANET !

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

We beat a rank 9+ spike with henchway because of this..they kept spiking us down, but our Healer Hench kept ressing us up, long after our signets had run out.

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Haven't seen any extraordinary rezzing yet, since all the rezzers still like to stand in aoe and die at the same time.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Thanks to the new and improved ressing, my ritualist easily took Glint down with hench team.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Now the problem is they res too fast.

we killed a mob of naga, but 3 henchies died, before i could rebirth, they all used up their res sigs. -.o way to waste it.

ricocheting

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/D

if by "improved" you mean made it so the non-healer henchy burn their rez sigs on a person while you're right in the middle of using rebirth on the dead person, then yep. they've been improved.

Killmur

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona - America

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Now the problem is they res too fast.

we killed a mob of naga, but 3 henchies died, before i could rebirth, they all used up their res sigs. -.o way to waste it.
That happened to me during Lost Treasure with my A/Mo today. I went to use Ressurect but some damn hench used a Res Sig on the healer hench before I could finish ressing her. X_X

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I am just wondering is this the Canthan Henchies only or the Tryrian as well?

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Now the problem is they res too fast.

we killed a mob of naga, but 3 henchies died, before i could rebirth, they all used up their res sigs. -.o way to waste it.
Heh, alas

I'm glad they added Res Sigs to the henchies skill bars....was desperately needed

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick
Heh, alas

I'm glad they added Res Sigs to the henchies' skill bars....was desperately needed
Rez Sigs have always been on their skillbars. How they use them is what has changed.

Initially in Factions, the henchies would only use a rez sig if no living member of the team had a hard rez. If a healer or spirit henchman was still alive, we could expect a long wait before the first rez.

After the recent update, to the delight of many, the henchmen became more aggressive with their rezzing. This leaves us with only a few minor issues.

1. The hencmen carrying Rez Sig will burn theirs unneccessarily. I have seen them rez a fallen comrade just before the last enemy dies, effectively wasting a signet, rather than wait for another to use a hard rez.

2. The other issue is that they need to know when to, and also be able to retreat, return, then rez. Couldn't they just break away from aggro for a moment, then return to rez? IMO only a sole survivor with a spent Resurrection Signet should suicide himself.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I am just wondering is this the Canthan Henchies only or the Tryrian as well?
Well like I mentioned earlier about my ritualist taking down Glint with henchies...

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

The res sig usage causes problems. While I normally run a hard res, occasionally, I have a char with professions other than monk or rit and that means, a res sig on my bar.

Now, I took the henchies out for a quest, someone dies, they res. We end up with three people still up, the monk is down.. and.. no-one has a res sig left! Used to be that the henchies used their res sig as last emergency backup only. I miss that... The other problem I'm encountering is that when I have a hard res, by the time I've ressed someone, or the monk hench has.. some idiot hench has used his or her res sig,.. meaning.. if we run into serious trouble, no res left.

Spent the entire first two days of the new way of ressing swearing at the henchies Gaining a death penalty of 60 is sooo much easier now.

Btw, does Prof. Gai have flesh of my flesh? If he has, he needs to learn to use it.

Rampager

Rampager

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Btw, does Prof. Gai have flesh of my flesh? If he has, he needs to learn to use it.
yeah he has it its just he uses it when he has less then a quarter health left so he almost kills himself then gets the person he ressed killed again since they have no health to begin with

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Well, seeing that I travel around with henchmen 90% of the time, I absolutely love this update to improve the henchmen ressurection rate.

Now I'm exploring at a higher efficiency rate!

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

The AI needs to differetiate between a wipe situation vs a non-wipe situation to use res sig.

1 Human, 7 henchies.
Encounter a group of bad guys. 2 henchies (not monks) die, but only 1 bad guy left.
Henchies dont res.

Another group of bad guys. Monk henchie dies quickly, with more monsters than henchies alive.
Res monk immediately.

Next mob. Half the bad guys die. 5 henchies die. Player decides to run away to rebirth 1 by 1.
Henchies should not run in and re-aggro just to use res sig.