Reverse puting someone as leader of your guild? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 19:34 - 1

What can you do to reverse puting someone as leader of your guild? Is there a confirmation window for puting someone as guild leader?

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

14 Jun 2006 at 20:32 - 2

I assume you accidentally promoted them to guild leader? If so, simply ask them to make you the leader again?

I would assume you could trust anyone in your guild to do so.

When we've done leader swaps before I don't remember there being a confirmation dialog but it hasn't happened enough for it to be something I remember.

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

14 Jun 2006 at 20:46 - 3

there is no confirmation button when you presss that option.
so if you have selected an leader try to confince him to make you leader again.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 20:49 - 4

and if they dont, then you're pretty much screwed? that sux...

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

14 Jun 2006 at 21:35 - 5

If they won't give it back to you, sorta boned unfortunately... I'd make sure all the guildies knew where I was going, jot down all of their names, and PM them and reinvite them into a new guild. If you had a close guild, they should follow, but if someone isn't giving back leadership in the first place... Idunno. I know we've given leadership to other members before when there was going to be absences for a week or more, but it's always been given back freely.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

14 Jun 2006 at 22:16 - 6

shouldn't there be a confirmation window for changing guild leader? i mean, you spend a lot on a guild, cape, hall, services, etc. and it can be all lost with 1 clumsy click? cmon...

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

14 Jun 2006 at 22:39 - 7

It'd be terrible if instead of kicking someone you made them leader

Whenever I'm pushing that button I make for sure that I'm doing the kicking.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 02:41 - 8

they should have it with a confimation button and require typing of the player's name being promoted to leader...

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

15 Jun 2006 at 02:51 - 9

Yes it should be like the delete a character function. You should also be really careful when promoting people, even to the officer position.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 04:36 - 10

sloppy programming and guild system design...

imsystem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

northern cal

15 Jun 2006 at 04:45 - 11

how do you get multiple guild leaders cause my guild has 3 '

and before i wanted to have a co guild leader but when i tried it took leadership away from me

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

15 Jun 2006 at 09:39 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsunamiZ

sloppy programming and guild system design...

Or sloppy guild management?

Tryll

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Scotland

[DS]

15 Jun 2006 at 11:53 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by imsystem

how do you get multiple guild leaders cause my guild has 3 '

and before i wanted to have a co guild leader but when i tried it took leadership away from me

A guild cannot have more than one leader. It sounds more likely that your guild has a leader and two officers. To be an officer a member must be promoted by the guild leader or another officer.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 13:57 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by JR-

Or sloppy guild management?

hows it sloppy when the options are only a few pixels apart from being clicked?

teklys

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Wizardry Players Guild

E/Me

15 Jun 2006 at 14:05 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsunamiZ

hows it sloppy when the options are only a few pixels apart from being clicked?

No matter what you do someone will find a way to screw it up. Have 4 dialogs, 3 other people having to agree, and a required fax in form to ANet and someone would be here saying the same thing....

Xio Lon Sha

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Certainly Unsure

Rt/E

15 Jun 2006 at 14:32 - 16

SLOPPY GUILD MANAGEMENT NOT THE PROGRAMERS FAULT you losa

Xio Lon Sha

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Certainly Unsure

Rt/E

15 Jun 2006 at 14:33 - 17

lol

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

15 Jun 2006 at 14:41 - 18

would be nice to have that because it doesnt' really take that much to type in a name or even right clicking a name lol

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

15 Jun 2006 at 14:54 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xio Lon Sha

SLOPPY GUILD MANAGEMENT NOT THE PROGRAMERS FAULT you losa

Ignorance ftw... Unless you are running your settings at 800x600, (I have mine at 1280x1024) there is very, very little room between your choices when performing actions on guild members. Picking someone to be guild leader is a big deal, and there shouldn't even the the chance that it happens on accident. We have to type our name to donate faction, but not to promote someone to guild leader?

AlbinoChocobo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/Me

15 Jun 2006 at 16:31 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsunamiZ

What can you do to reverse puting someone as leader of your guild?

Well, there is this procedure if he's had an affair with an intern ...

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 16:58 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by teklys

No matter what you do someone will find a way to screw it up. Have 4 dialogs, 3 other people having to agree, and a required fax in form to ANet and someone would be here saying the same thing....

u would hav to be really stupid to screw that up...not by accident...and no one can be that stupid

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 17:30 - 22

another disturbing problem w the guild member options is that the "designate to leader" is placed in a different order for member vs officer >.<

QuietWanderer

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Droknar's Dragon Legion

Mo/W

15 Jun 2006 at 18:42 - 23

It is sloppy a weak UI. While TsunamiZ made the mistake, two step confirmation is common to all UI's and should be implemented here. It's just good design practice.

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

15 Jun 2006 at 19:59 - 24

Soooo, perhaps this post should be moved to suggestions board or a new post made there to reflect such a recommendation?

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 20:34 - 25

i questioned anet support about this and guess what? you need to have either the player you accidently promoted to give you back your leadership, or wait for the player to be INACTIVE for 2 MONTHS [60 days] since you promoted him! how rediculous is that?? heck, GW Factions is not even out for 2 months yet!

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

15 Jun 2006 at 20:46 - 26

I see, so you were intending to kick an inactive member but instead promoted them instead. Bummer.

You have to sympathize with Anet though, how do they know what's going on in your guild and so cannot blindly make such changes to leadership.

Stalker Haras

I Didn't Do It

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

15 Jun 2006 at 20:51 - 27

Here is the warning window deal.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 20:58 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanBB

I see, so you were intending to kick an inactive member but instead promoted them instead. Bummer.

You have to sympathize with Anet though, how do they know what's going on in your guild and so cannot blindly make such changes to leadership.

The problem is their leader promotion design is flawed and then they have a rediculous 2 month inactive wait time. Besides, the player that was promoted has a note of who promoted them when you highlight their name.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

15 Jun 2006 at 21:02 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stalker Haras

Here is the warning window deal.

btw that is a player suggestion and it does not currently exist

Stalker Haras

I Didn't Do It

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

15 Jun 2006 at 21:14 - 30

Ummm yes it does, i took the screenshot after reading this thread to clear it up for you.

Fyre Brand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Shadowlight Order [SoR]

15 Jun 2006 at 22:30 - 31

So there is at least a confirmation window? Thank you Stalker for clearing that up. So what then TsunamiZ isn't a second window enough for you? I'll have to agree with JR here, you need to take responsibility for your own mistake and quit blaming others.

You are basically requesting the Dev team to spend coding resource time with something that seems fairly functional.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 12:57 - 32

i dont recall a window...besides, promoting a leader should require a more concious effort like typing in the name of the player...

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 13:04 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsunamiZ

i dont recall a window...besides, promoting a leader should require a more concious effort like typing in the name of the player...

agreed here.. if you meant to choose officer\kick instead of guild leader, and dont pay attention to the prompt, it would suck. I know everyone is saying you should be more careful, but i dont think there is any harm in adding "type the name of the person you want to make guild leader here" option.. at least then, if you do do it.. you cant come to the boards and moan