Alliance Rosters
rohara
/ubersigned, and i don't understand why this wasn't implemented to begin with. i've seen RTS games with better buddy list systems, and MMO's should be far superior to any RTS in that respect.
Rez Delnava
As an officer in a mid sized alliance, I need this. I get numerous request for help each day, and i need to be able to see who's who and from which guild the request came from.
Additionally, I'm in a guild that has had to split three times now to hold all of the members, and since they are all considered to be the same guild by the leader and officers, it just makes sense to be able to see all of our guildies without having to spam alliance chat for an attendence call.
Friends list is inadequate for this type of tracking as it will keep the person listed regaurdless of whether or not the person is in the guild/alliance.
Additionally, I'm in a guild that has had to split three times now to hold all of the members, and since they are all considered to be the same guild by the leader and officers, it just makes sense to be able to see all of our guildies without having to spam alliance chat for an attendence call.
Friends list is inadequate for this type of tracking as it will keep the person listed regaurdless of whether or not the person is in the guild/alliance.
Mundungus
/signed
This would be awesome, in my guild's alliance we've always talked that it would be fantastic to see who is online in ally guilds.
This would be awesome, in my guild's alliance we've always talked that it would be fantastic to see who is online in ally guilds.
Araliuns Sun
Ok, so a little history here.
I started with my first guild in July, 2006 - same time I started playing the game.
Through late November of 2006, we belonged to 2 different alliances.
Have to say the experience was HORRIBLE. My god; the spamming going on - this kids using crazy language that would make any adult blush - the lack of who is who from each guild - the sheer chat was out of control and turned many of my members OFF. I ended up losing people as a result. I tried another alliance to see if that would help. NOPE. Same problem.
I can't count how many times someone said "is an officer from xxx guild on?". Only to have no clue who any of the officers were. 10 guilds - 100 out of control potentials in each guild. Gah - it was a circus! You know why - because tools are missing to help people be more aware of who others were in the other guilds, who the officers where in those guilds, etc.. I ended up having to create an alliance website, created a forum to "report members here". Do you have any idea how much work we did to get around these issues? I'm sure you do - many of you have done it yourself. But why I ask? ANET has not put in the right tools to enable players to better team, communicate and establish relationships in the game. That's why. A guild leader is practically BLIND of being aware who else in the alliance is on. Frankly it's ridiculous.
So, I took matters into my own hands (as I do love this game and I am creative that way [to overcome barriers]). I created my own alliance. Then I created multiple guilds through multiple accounts. IF ANET won't give me the tools to accomplish an EFFECTIVE Alliance system where players have opportunities at creating better bonds of friendship, to truly take advantage of the potential that is found in having 1,000 potential members work together for commmon interestes and goals, then I will do it myself. And that is what I did.
Today; I have an alliance lead by myself; with 6 guild accounts I am leader of; staffed with over 400 players. Of the 6 we have 3 PvE guilds, 1 PvP guild, 1 Farming/Running guild, and a final guild for players who are on the game less often than a few weeks. It's a MEGA Guild. And oh my GOD does it work incredibly well. This model truly allows the guilds to work as one; for members to tap into the resources of all players who are online across all of the guilds; to work and act as one true group of friends who take pride in their alliance. We now have 13 countries represented in the alliance - and we continue to grow.
Still, throughout all of this, there is a common component that is missing. It's the component that was missing before I went down this path and created my own MEGA guild/alliance. What's missing is the ability for players to SEE who is online across the guilds. While you can chat in alliance chat; you don't have an awareness of WHO IS (or who is not) online and available. That's too bad. It acts as a deterent for players from being able to group and work together more effectively. While alliance chat does work, it could be so much better if the ANET Developers provided more awareness in the game. A global ALLIANCE Roster will do the trick.
- Araliuns Sun
LaZy Nation
www.lazyimperium.com
I started with my first guild in July, 2006 - same time I started playing the game.
Through late November of 2006, we belonged to 2 different alliances.
Have to say the experience was HORRIBLE. My god; the spamming going on - this kids using crazy language that would make any adult blush - the lack of who is who from each guild - the sheer chat was out of control and turned many of my members OFF. I ended up losing people as a result. I tried another alliance to see if that would help. NOPE. Same problem.
I can't count how many times someone said "is an officer from xxx guild on?". Only to have no clue who any of the officers were. 10 guilds - 100 out of control potentials in each guild. Gah - it was a circus! You know why - because tools are missing to help people be more aware of who others were in the other guilds, who the officers where in those guilds, etc.. I ended up having to create an alliance website, created a forum to "report members here". Do you have any idea how much work we did to get around these issues? I'm sure you do - many of you have done it yourself. But why I ask? ANET has not put in the right tools to enable players to better team, communicate and establish relationships in the game. That's why. A guild leader is practically BLIND of being aware who else in the alliance is on. Frankly it's ridiculous.
So, I took matters into my own hands (as I do love this game and I am creative that way [to overcome barriers]). I created my own alliance. Then I created multiple guilds through multiple accounts. IF ANET won't give me the tools to accomplish an EFFECTIVE Alliance system where players have opportunities at creating better bonds of friendship, to truly take advantage of the potential that is found in having 1,000 potential members work together for commmon interestes and goals, then I will do it myself. And that is what I did.
Today; I have an alliance lead by myself; with 6 guild accounts I am leader of; staffed with over 400 players. Of the 6 we have 3 PvE guilds, 1 PvP guild, 1 Farming/Running guild, and a final guild for players who are on the game less often than a few weeks. It's a MEGA Guild. And oh my GOD does it work incredibly well. This model truly allows the guilds to work as one; for members to tap into the resources of all players who are online across all of the guilds; to work and act as one true group of friends who take pride in their alliance. We now have 13 countries represented in the alliance - and we continue to grow.
Still, throughout all of this, there is a common component that is missing. It's the component that was missing before I went down this path and created my own MEGA guild/alliance. What's missing is the ability for players to SEE who is online across the guilds. While you can chat in alliance chat; you don't have an awareness of WHO IS (or who is not) online and available. That's too bad. It acts as a deterent for players from being able to group and work together more effectively. While alliance chat does work, it could be so much better if the ANET Developers provided more awareness in the game. A global ALLIANCE Roster will do the trick.
- Araliuns Sun
LaZy Nation
www.lazyimperium.com
legion_rat
/signed
i dont think it would be to hard, click on the guild in alliance and it opens the same roster that the guildies see. Just another tab to create.
~the rat~
i dont think it would be to hard, click on the guild in alliance and it opens the same roster that the guildies see. Just another tab to create.
~the rat~
Lokomotiv
/signed
I cannot recognize anyone in Alliance chat... a roster with the alias would surely help.
I cannot recognize anyone in Alliance chat... a roster with the alias would surely help.
~nymph~
/signed
It would be nice to see who is on in the alliance.
It would be nice to see who is on in the alliance.
DarkCloudInc
/sign
Makes alliance management much more easier
Makes alliance management much more easier
Darkan Mistwalker
Lately I have been throwing ideas around about possible ways to improve alliance communications. I realize that we have Alliance Chat which is fine, but I think improvements would be appreciated by all alliances and their leaders. Here is a list of possible improvements and explanations for your review and comments.
1) Enable an Alliance Roster- by this I mean being able to select a guild in your alliance and then have the option to observe what members of that guild are online. This would be much easier than the present way of asking in A/C what officers and leaders are on as well as the other option of putting these members in your friends list.
2) Enable an Alliance Officers Chat- The reason behind this is that whenever any allaince issues (problems etc) come up, it would be more productive and easier to have an Alliance Officers Chat to work out any problems or issues instead of doing this by whisper or in open A/C. It may also assist in stopping problems in an Alliance before they start.
3) Bring back the Guild Officers Chat- Although this is not Alliance related, I found it very useful to have for a guild. See suggestion #2 for related reasons.
*Most of these have been touched on already, but I believe these 3 would be of great benefit to all alliances*
1) Enable an Alliance Roster- by this I mean being able to select a guild in your alliance and then have the option to observe what members of that guild are online. This would be much easier than the present way of asking in A/C what officers and leaders are on as well as the other option of putting these members in your friends list.
2) Enable an Alliance Officers Chat- The reason behind this is that whenever any allaince issues (problems etc) come up, it would be more productive and easier to have an Alliance Officers Chat to work out any problems or issues instead of doing this by whisper or in open A/C. It may also assist in stopping problems in an Alliance before they start.
3) Bring back the Guild Officers Chat- Although this is not Alliance related, I found it very useful to have for a guild. See suggestion #2 for related reasons.
*Most of these have been touched on already, but I believe these 3 would be of great benefit to all alliances*
Athrun Feya
/signed.
And maybe something that looked a little like this:
Leaders
Athrun Feya [ONE]
Someone else [xxx]
Officers
character one [xxx]
charcter two [xpx]
character three [ONE]
Members..
etc
In my experiences, with alliances, knowing when officers or leaders have been online has been very useful.
And maybe something that looked a little like this:
Leaders
Athrun Feya [ONE]
Someone else [xxx]
Officers
character one [xxx]
charcter two [xpx]
character three [ONE]
Members..
etc
In my experiences, with alliances, knowing when officers or leaders have been online has been very useful.
Sleeper Service
/signed
because someone thought of it first.
because someone thought of it first.
Cats
/signed
Really needed this since the start of alliances. I'm surprised it hasn't already been implemented.
Really needed this since the start of alliances. I'm surprised it hasn't already been implemented.
Steboy93
/signed
It's a pain not being able to recognise people from athe alliance.
It's a pain not being able to recognise people from athe alliance.
payne
would be nice to see who was on in the ol' alliance /signed
Tyla
/signed and amen to that!
would help to display the inactivity of a guild in your alliances:P
would help to display the inactivity of a guild in your alliances:P
Exterminate all
Now this my friend, Is a GREAT idea for guild wars.
It really helps with everything.
/signed
It really helps with everything.
/signed
Div
I thought I signed this. But yeah, sure.
Ryla Ravenclaw
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaco Nautzi
But I still think wii need this, My alliance has recently become very inactive and this would help to know when to kick the ones that are actually inactive or just not answering...
|
Being able to see the ppl in each guild and when they were last on would sooooo be helpful for us alliance leaders!
/signed
Tonis
/signed
Makes sense. Would help alliance leaders greatly.
Would also be nice for those of us will full friends lists
Makes sense. Would help alliance leaders greatly.
Would also be nice for those of us will full friends lists
roflcopter2445
It's called a friend's list, use it.
/notsigned
/notsigned
Diddy bow
Quote:
Originally Posted by roflcopter2445
It's called a friend's list, use it.
/notsigned |
/signed, thought i already did but this idea is just somthing so basic and neccecary and there is no real reason why it shouldnt/couldnt be done.
Kubik2000
I see it not like making the alliance roaster better would be the same as guild roaster u would have all other alliance guilds roaster's u shoud be able to see every allied guild roaster because that improves alliance teamwork and also helps ppl to work together
newbie_of_doom
/signed
wtbmoarcharactarsliektwelve
wtbmoarcharactarsliektwelve
Idi0t
/signed so much.
Im officer in a local alliance. we only got 4 guilds. and still. this would be a huge help. Cant think about how much it would do in a full alliance.
Im officer in a local alliance. we only got 4 guilds. and still. this would be a huge help. Cant think about how much it would do in a full alliance.
Ama Seraphim
/signed on an old post..
tehshadowninjar
Makkert
/signed. this is long overdue.
Yes you can.
Quote:
Originally Posted by !!! aa !!!!
Its called a friends list? It holds 100 ppl btw! you cannot possibly fill it and know everyone on it...
/notsigned |
The Little Viking
I would like to be able to see who all is on in aliance without haing to ask...is xxx on in yyy guild? Friends list is fine, but when your in a full aliance with over 100 people total in aliance, you DO NOT have room for everyone in there. Let alone the ones on ignore list. I have been thinking that it would be beneficial to all to be able to see who is on in aliance since the beginning of alliances.
Thizzle
I have a way to do this so it is not clutter, but still worthwhile. Once a guild enters an alliance the roster changes. You have a + and - box to collapse each guild in the alliance and your own guild stays on top. That way you can look at everything that is going on in the alliance. This would solve the problem of looking through 100s of members.
cruzer
/signed
I don't really care how it is done but we need a way to see who is on-line alliance wide.
I don't really care how it is done but we need a way to see who is on-line alliance wide.
FiresGW
I think of an alliance as groups of people who are coming together. When you have many people coming together for any reason issues may arise. I think this Idea would be awsome to add for guild within an alliance can work out a structure of how they will address issues. If officers/leaders of guilds could see who is on in other guilds within allaince i think it could help with their structure of addressing issues.
ex:Member in guild A says or does something to offend ppl in guilds B,C,D... But at that time no officer of guild A is on. Officer in guild B can look at their roster and see this, so officer in guild B takes action to deal with the issue or looks for officers in guilds C, D, E.... and they work together to deal with the issue.
Reason this feature could help, instead of member in guild A being address by all or many officers in guilds A, B, C.... and getting the feeling they being attacked cause they may have not realized what they did is offensive and was pure accident. This would help contain issues instead of allowing things to get blown out of proportion and unfortanely destroy the alliance.
ex:Member in guild A says or does something to offend ppl in guilds B,C,D... But at that time no officer of guild A is on. Officer in guild B can look at their roster and see this, so officer in guild B takes action to deal with the issue or looks for officers in guilds C, D, E.... and they work together to deal with the issue.
Reason this feature could help, instead of member in guild A being address by all or many officers in guilds A, B, C.... and getting the feeling they being attacked cause they may have not realized what they did is offensive and was pure accident. This would help contain issues instead of allowing things to get blown out of proportion and unfortanely destroy the alliance.
Shayne Hawke
/signed for a roster that contains only active players. Inactive players can't be that important to non-guild members of the alliance.
ilipol
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke
/signed for a roster that contains only active players. Inactive players can't be that important to non-guild members of the alliance.
|
Horus
/signed
but this idea is so old, and still nothing implemented... no way they'll do it now
but this idea is so old, and still nothing implemented... no way they'll do it now
FiresGW
the idea being old, dont mean they should or shouldnt do it. Do think its makes it worthy of a discussion from a GW admin to comment if they feel they would add or will not, to give some closure to it.
And just because GW2 is being formed and they may be busy, but they still need to keep GW players happy and show they do still care bout the developement in GW. Doing this will give a much easier transition from GW => GW2. Beside GW is a prime testing ground to see how some things would work in GW2.
And just because GW2 is being formed and they may be busy, but they still need to keep GW players happy and show they do still care bout the developement in GW. Doing this will give a much easier transition from GW => GW2. Beside GW is a prime testing ground to see how some things would work in GW2.
nechronius
Casting rez sig on this thread.
This is such a significant and compelling feature that it can't be left to die and vanish. As the leader of an alliance, I have enough issues to worry about on a daily basis without having to comb through my friends list constantly to determine which alliance contacts are no longer valid ones and which ones are just plain quiet or dead.
There are of course some drawbacks and the potential for abuse, but the benefits far outweight any potential negatives.
Allow me to offer an example. One of the guilds in my alliance was a quiet one. I was wondering if any of them were even playing and at one point I even forgot who the GL was. One day I ran into one of the guild members through sheer random luck (PUGging in Factions) and we had a successful run of missions and had lots of fun together. After that, their GL was back on and chatting. Turns out that I had PUG'd with that GL's significant other and maybe I got a good word put in for me. Up until that point I didn't know who they were (I had inherited the position as alliance leader after the former had left).
The point is, without knowing who others are in a changing environment, it's hard to maintain communication with the people that matter, making communication worse within the alliance. It's a self defeating problem and if anything it only hurts the community as a whole. People start feeling isolated and then leave the game instead of finding others to have something in common with. In-game activity drops and everyone suffers from a shrinking player pool.
If it's not feasible to have the entire alliance available for viewing, at least the list of all GLs would be nice. Sort of like an emergency hotline between the US and Russia. ANYTHING is better than the complete lack of information which we have now.
This is such a significant and compelling feature that it can't be left to die and vanish. As the leader of an alliance, I have enough issues to worry about on a daily basis without having to comb through my friends list constantly to determine which alliance contacts are no longer valid ones and which ones are just plain quiet or dead.
There are of course some drawbacks and the potential for abuse, but the benefits far outweight any potential negatives.
Allow me to offer an example. One of the guilds in my alliance was a quiet one. I was wondering if any of them were even playing and at one point I even forgot who the GL was. One day I ran into one of the guild members through sheer random luck (PUGging in Factions) and we had a successful run of missions and had lots of fun together. After that, their GL was back on and chatting. Turns out that I had PUG'd with that GL's significant other and maybe I got a good word put in for me. Up until that point I didn't know who they were (I had inherited the position as alliance leader after the former had left).
The point is, without knowing who others are in a changing environment, it's hard to maintain communication with the people that matter, making communication worse within the alliance. It's a self defeating problem and if anything it only hurts the community as a whole. People start feeling isolated and then leave the game instead of finding others to have something in common with. In-game activity drops and everyone suffers from a shrinking player pool.
If it's not feasible to have the entire alliance available for viewing, at least the list of all GLs would be nice. Sort of like an emergency hotline between the US and Russia. ANYTHING is better than the complete lack of information which we have now.