The only extra thing you can really do is take your character from one to the other and obtain the extra skills and thats about as far as it goes for relation between the two games, no quests that spawn across or involve having the two games besides mhelenos request.
Dramatic inpact on items worth due to new mods and skins in each new game which overpower and unbalance the past chapter.
whats going to happen when everyone moves onto chapter 3 all this faction farming will be a lost cause everyone will flood to chapter 3 and it would of been a wasted effort, I hope in the next chapters anet decide to make the games have more to do with each other, and instead of dropping each chapter into the dirt maybe to take some time in explaining or patching up holes in story or having it mean something in the next.
whats wrong with adding content to the past lands it can still be done it anet wanto make money they could just include it in the next chapters.
Example bonus material for chapter one and 2 could be sold through chapter 3.
Propercies and factions are to isolated from each other will chapter 3 be the same?
markus_thom
Tainek
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The only extra thing you can really do is take your character from one to the other and obtain the extra skills and thats about as far as it goes for relation between the two games, no quests that spawn across or involve having the two games besides mhelenos request.
Dramatic inpact on items worth due to new mods and skins in each new game which overpower and unbalance the past chapter. whats going to happen when everyone moves onto chapter 3 all this faction farming will be a lost cause everyone will flood to chapter 3 and it would of been a wasted effort, I hope in the next chapters anet decide to make the games have more to do with each other, and instead of dropping each chapter into the dirt maybe to take some time in explaining or patching up holes in story or having it mean something in the next. whats wrong with adding content to the past lands it can still be done it anet wanto make money they could just include it in the next chapters. Example bonus material for chapter one and 2 could be sold through chapter 3. |
of course new skins will tip the market for a bit, look at what IDS did when introduced
as far as im concerned the current system works fine
Stupid Shizno
To the OP:
It was clear from the beginning that factions would be a stand alone game, with this stated, its not an expansion pak. Thus the two games should be isolated from each other. Anet just let you merge to gain 2 extra slots so you would still buy the game and not start over on a new account.
It was clear from the beginning that factions would be a stand alone game, with this stated, its not an expansion pak. Thus the two games should be isolated from each other. Anet just let you merge to gain 2 extra slots so you would still buy the game and not start over on a new account.
SilentAssassin
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To the OP:
It was clear from the beginning that factions would be a stand alone game, with this stated, its not an expansion pak. Thus the two games should be isolated from each other. Anet just let you merge to gain 2 extra slots so you would still buy the game and not start over on a new account. |
these new chapters are ment as standalone's, its normal that there aren't many crossings between the worlds BUT they do try to blend the story abit into eachother.
Roupe
I dont see how the story fits with prophesies, except for Mhenlo helping out a friend.
jackie
Adding content to old chapters is of course something that we all want but what can you do if almost everyone is working with next standalone chapters.
And yeah the main story doesn't quite fit with prophecies but that could have been otherways if writers would have wanted it to fit & make cool connections between Tyria & Cantha ^_^
And yeah the main story doesn't quite fit with prophecies but that could have been otherways if writers would have wanted it to fit & make cool connections between Tyria & Cantha ^_^
dargon
The new story isn't supposed to fit with prophecies, it's supposed to be a bit of a fork in a completely different direction that can involve the same characters.
Dahnel
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you do know that there were no new mods added exclusivly to factions, and there never will be.
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kimahri
The fact that it is meant to be stand alone seems to have missed many.
Sagius Truthbarron
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To the OP:
It was clear from the beginning that factions would be a stand alone game, with this stated, its not an expansion pak. Thus the two games should be isolated from each other. Anet just let you merge to gain 2 extra slots so you would still buy the game and not start over on a new account. |
Its not a Stand Alone game that you are able to expand into. Its an expansion pack that you are able to play by itself.
I don't think they should be issolated from eachother. There is still so much left out of the storylines, and so much they can still do with the game. I do think they need intermingling quests. It will make the game more interesting and revive older chapters for seasoned players.
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demonslaying ? dragonslaying ?
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Kijik Oni Hanryuu
first of all YES this game is stand-alone no question about it, it has nothing to do with preophecies except the fact that Mhenlo cam from canthat, always thought that guys looked kinda asian o.o. also the new mods are not neccesarily "new" they asre just towards diff things and I am sure that those mods can now be found in Tyria, quit ragging on anet saying all this was a markjeting ploy. Also FF will not go out of the window when chap 3 comes out, I for one will still play in cantha, I love being able to run out for only like two mins and find a profitable quest in which I can kill stuff, and I intend on, once I finish off cantha to take my canthan chars to tyria and to finish the RoF with my nec.
DeanBB
Don't forget that there were some introductory quests around LA while Factions was being introduced to provide a bit of tie in.
With stand alone games it is pretty hard to intermingle the stories since someone could own Factions and not Prophecies and the story would still need to make sense for them. Chapter 3 will just add another element to that and I would not expect the stories to be any more intertwined than what 1 & 2 are now.
With stand alone games it is pretty hard to intermingle the stories since someone could own Factions and not Prophecies and the story would still need to make sense for them. Chapter 3 will just add another element to that and I would not expect the stories to be any more intertwined than what 1 & 2 are now.
Markaedw
I feel that they are more of a sequel rather than an expansion. Yes you don't need both to play, but it helps (like parchment crafters). There is a Playstaion and a Gameboy game like this (bonus points if you know them).
I kind of see Factions as:
For Tyrians,we got everyone to Kryta, things are settleing down, Mhenlo gets a letter from an old friend in Catha about a bit of a problem there, Mhenlo wants to investigate and asks his friends to help out. Since thaching a roof is not our cup of tea and if we have to chase the pig one more time, it's pork chops for dinner, we jump at the chance. When we get back we find that there has been some problems with the mantle and the undead are getting out of control so we unpack and get to work again.
For Cathans, since Tyrians were so helpful with Shiro, and since they could use a little help with the local religious zealots and you have to choices: take a break from the Luxon/Kurzik feud or put a weapon in someone's backside. So off to Lion's Arch.
Now I hope that chapter 3 takes place after Prophecies and Factions are completed rather than durring.
I kind of see Factions as:
For Tyrians,we got everyone to Kryta, things are settleing down, Mhenlo gets a letter from an old friend in Catha about a bit of a problem there, Mhenlo wants to investigate and asks his friends to help out. Since thaching a roof is not our cup of tea and if we have to chase the pig one more time, it's pork chops for dinner, we jump at the chance. When we get back we find that there has been some problems with the mantle and the undead are getting out of control so we unpack and get to work again.
For Cathans, since Tyrians were so helpful with Shiro, and since they could use a little help with the local religious zealots and you have to choices: take a break from the Luxon/Kurzik feud or put a weapon in someone's backside. So off to Lion's Arch.
Now I hope that chapter 3 takes place after Prophecies and Factions are completed rather than durring.
Parson Brown
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I feel that they are more of a sequel rather than an expansion. Yes you don't need both to play, but it helps (like parchment crafters). There is a Playstaion and a Gameboy game like this (bonus points if you know them).
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Anyhow, I'm pretty sure Chap. 3 will be another stand-alone.
Without a monthly fee, Guild Wars needs to attract as many new players as possible with every release. If you release an expansion, you limit your potential market to those who already have the main game.
Take FFXI
I don't have it, so I have no interest in an expansion. Actually, when I see a game on the shelf with 4 expansions sitting next to it, I can guarantee that I won't buy the core game because I would be on the hook for 4 expansions if I want to "catch up" to the existing player base.
This way, players can buy any chapter and be on a (relatively) even footing.
Markaedw
Does equipment from Kingdom Hearts carry over? If so add a third to the list.
The whole Disney thing just didn't do it for me.
The whole Disney thing just didn't do it for me.
Parson Brown
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Does equipment from Kingdom Hearts carry over?
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And forget the Disney thing, it is integrated seamlessly and both KH games on the PS2 are top-shelf. (And this is a 32 y/o father of two saying this, not a 14 y/o Disney fan!)
Ninna
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(Factions) is not a Stand Alone game that you are able to expand into. Its an expansion pack that you are able to play by itself.
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and later decided to buy Prophecies for their existing Factions Account
you can expand Factions -- if you dont own any other chapters
Markaedw
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And forget the Disney thing, it is integrated seamlessly and both KH games on the PS2 are top-shelf. (And this is a 32 y/o father of two saying this, not a 14 y/o Disney fan!)
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The games 2 games I played, if you had a save from the previous game some of the equipment would install on the new game.
Count to Potato
Agreed, only thing connecting Tyria and Cantha is Master Togo and Mhenlo, i havent seen many tyria cahracters try and go to FoW and UW in zin ku corridor
The Great Al
It still just doesnt make sense...there should be a $50 fee for new timers to buy a new chapter, and $35-40 to add it to an existing account...its really not fair to the loyal gamers
Selerious
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It still just doesnt make sense...there should be a $50 fee for new timers to buy a new chapter, and $35-40 to add it to an existing account...its really not fair to the loyal gamers
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Ok, may i see your guild wars account.
it is a good idea in theory but could only work online leaving many (including me) in the creek.
awesome sauce
I still think all continents should be on the same map. Makes things way easier
seanedsw28
I hope that chapter 3 is after. Atleast then we can fix Ascalon because it is a dump now.
markus_thom
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I still think all continents should be on the same map. Makes things way easier
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