Blood is power: Change of % loss: It's too much

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Ballone
Pre-Searing Cadet
#1
Please change the % of Bip sacrifice loss from 33% to 2o%. It is too much of a loss based on what recharge rates are available to a player speced in Blood, and Mo healing, and the Damage your devs have set the monsters to inflict in some map locations.

This would help players who support team play giving them a litte bit of a break on....

-My damage penalty is 60%
- cultist henchmen is dead
- anyone who is supporting the team energy is dead
AW Lore
AW Lore
Jungle Guide
#2
i have never had a problem with BiP, and i use BiP with my monk on pve, one ritualist MM thanked me for having such a skill to help him keep summoning minions.

and regarding the DP, if you have 100 life, and you use BiP you would only lose 30 life.
Aera
Aera
Forge Runner
#3
BiP=mass energy. It's perfect as it is
QuietWanderer
QuietWanderer
Academy Page
#4
Slap on Mending and Watchful Spirit if you're a monk secondary.
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The Lich Ranger
Lion's Arch Merchant
#5
Mending FTW
Arkantos
Arkantos
The Greatest
#6
Its fine the way it is.
B Ephekt
B Ephekt
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
If the sac wasn't prohibitive there would be nothing keeping the BiP necro from giving everyone unlimited energy. That's a pretty stupid idea when you consider how easy it would make pve (which is already too easy imo.) Not to mention the effects on pvp balance.

BiP is a good skill just how it is, it's one you need to use wisely though and that's how it should be. So, um, maybe play smarter?
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Ballone
Pre-Searing Cadet
#8
I'll try Watchful spirit.

But the example I gave was from huge trouble in Urgoz yesterday. Groups of 12 are tough
Arcador
Arcador
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
I've seen good use in non necro or caster style. Ranger and War.
Quick + and -
+ range spell
+ A LOT OF regen (boost PnH lol)
- 33% sacrifice (scorge sacrfice lol)
- target other ally

It is like boosted Blood Ritual.
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TadaceAce
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ballone

-My damage penalty is 60%
Ok for one, its DEATH penalty, and two, if you want a bipper in pve go 55 necro, use illusion of weakness to get down to 1 life, stay back, and bip until your head explodes.
BahamutKaiser
BahamutKaiser
Desert Nomad
#11
Blood magic..... bring some life stealing skills to cover your health loss wile your at it, your lucky to have an attribute which provides healing, life stealing, energy support, top of the line nuking, and even some significant enchantments all in one.

Actually having to pay for the best energy support skill in the game..... Balanced.
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anonymous
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
get in groups that are good enough to not rely(sp?) on a necro battery. BiP is good as it is
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Malice Black
Site Legend
#13
BiP isnt really needed imo if you have a good group that calls energy and takes regular regen intervals then u dont need BiP you are just wasting a space..go get another l33t echo nucker or stance tank with no stances..
shardfenix
shardfenix
Banned
#14
bip is fine. Have one of your monks throw an orison at you and youre back to full hp.
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nefastaruebays
Banned
#15
BiP + HA ftw
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Ballone
Pre-Searing Cadet
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by TadaceAce
Ok for one, its DEATH penalty, and two, if you want a bipper in pve go 55 necro, use illusion of weakness to get down to 1 life, stay back, and bip until your head explodes.
This advice has changed my mind, and fixed my play problem, thank you Ace.
lightblade
lightblade
Forge Runner
#17
Blood is Power(BiP)'s 33% health sacrifice can be justified this way:

First, know that each pip of energy regen gives you 1 energy every 3 seconds. With that in mind, 3 pips equals 1 energy per second and BiP's 6 pips means 2 energy per second.

BiP lasts for 10 seconds, so that's total of 20 energy gain in 10 seconds. With an energy cost of 5, it leaves a net energy gain of 15.

Compare with Blood Ritual(br), that's 10 energy for 3 pips over 17 seconds. That is 17 energy over 17 seconds, and net energy gain of 7.

Conclusion: BiP gives twice the energy at twice the speed. So it is 4 times better than BR, but only sacrifice twice at much health. It's way worth it.