Question about knockdown attack combo

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Recently i tried to play with hammer and found a few good skills combos for the bar. I use Devastating Hammer {Elite} --> Crushing Blow --> Mighty Blow --> Heavy Blow. My concern is in Devastating Hammer follow by Crushing Blow. Here's the description of the two:

Devastating Hammer {Elite} - Hammer Attack
If Devastating Hammer hits, your target is knocked down and suffers from weakness for 5-17 seconds.

Crushing Blow - Hammer Attack
If this attack hits, you strike for 1-16 more damage. If you hit a knocked-down enemy, you inflict a deep wound, lowering your target's maximum health by 20% for 5-17 seconds

I notice that when hit a foe with Devastating Hammer, he get knockdown but by the time Crushing Blow hit, the foe is already on it's way getting up. Does "getting up" still consider as knockdown? Reason i ask is i want to know if the two skill combo will make the foe suffer weakness + deep wound. Let me know if i'm missing something. Thanks.


P.S if you have other good hammer combo let me know

audioaxes

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

yes it still gets a deep wound
you should have stoneskin guantlets and with that combo you might as well use fierce blow instead of mighty

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

Use stonefists - if you don't, crushing blow may not register the deep wound if you combo too slow. But getting up still counts.

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by audioaxes
yes it still gets a deep wound
you should have stoneskin guantlets and with that combo you might as well use fierce blow instead of mighty
What is stoneskin gaunlets? is taht a green? if so where can i farm it?

Killmur

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona - America

R/Mo

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Warrior_armor
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Stoneskin_Gauntlets

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

oop... double post

Jestah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

You should be able to get off atleast 2 attacks with hammer after Devastating. Stonefist Gauntlets and IAS are essential for KD chains.

This combo is usually enough to kill most things in one combo provided they aren't healed. Very good for 4v4 where there's usually only 1 healer but equally good for a 2 man spike in 8v8. Devastating, Crushing, Fierce, Heavy. Usually if you need Heavy Blow in 8v8 it's already too late but in 4v4 it's very useful for a followup because a single monk doesn't stand a chance vs a double knockdown without pre protting or off-monk support.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

you might also get confused with the get-up animation, afaik whilst the target is in that, it still counts as knocked down. it also seems to last a tiny bit longer than it visually does

just my 2 cents ^^

fatboyslimerr

fatboyslimerr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

U.K

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

Me/A

The best knock down combos using crushing blow are with backbreaker which has the wonderful affect of knocking target down for 4 SECONDS !!! Use that plus shock plus stonefist gauntlets for ultimate knockdownarama.

Quick Tip, Backbreaker costs 10 adrenaline which is a lot so try using To The Limit to gain adrenaline more quickly plus obviously an IAS like frenzy.

Jestah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

No need to knockdown for 4 seconds in 8 man pvp. If you take longer than 4 seconds spiking it's not gonna work anyway unless there's no second monk around. Only really need knockdown to stop kiting to make sure all spike skills land as fast as possible. Devastating is faster to charge and also causes weakness which is useful for chaining things like Fierce Blow.

sumasage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

what's ISA?

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

IAS = increased attack speed

skills like frenzy, tiger's fury, ... give IAS, enabling you to chain skills faster, bursting more DPS in a short period of time (so called "adrenalin spiking")

Emerald_Dream

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Australia

W/R

stoneskin doesnt affect backbreaker anyway

fatboyslimerr

fatboyslimerr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

U.K

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

Me/A

I know but it affects shock

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

its not like the gloves make a huge difference anyway.. i personally prefer to have only 2 sets of gloves - pve all-purpose and pvp all-purpose ^_^

Jestah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

I always have stoneskin regardless of where I'm playing. In PvP you almost always have knockdown even if you're not using hammer and the (5?) extra armour isn't even worth the switch.