Rotscale Solo/Duo/Trio builds?

Huntmaster

Huntmaster

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

I is not canadien

Guillotine Tactics [GanK]

R/

Alright so after seeing the new bow, Rotwing's Recurve Bow, and lusting for it i decided to think up some ranger heavy team builds for killing Rotscale.

At the moment, i'm thinking 2 R/Mo, spiking with JI, FW up in the back and RtW, as well as another ranger with Apply instead of RtW. Rotscale now uses Malaise, so you can capitalize on the degen..

I was thinking maybe a Mo bonder in the back with Vital Blessing for support to get this down, but then Rotty has Desecrate Enchants, so that could hurt.. Maybe a spirit Rt/Mo?

Really, i'd like to eventually work towards a two man ranger build to take on Rotscale, but for now this is going to have to suffice..

Any ideas?

Shoitaan

Shoitaan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Australia

Tuskforce Supremacy [Tusk]

Me/N

Apply poison wont work on Rotscale I think, I believe he's undead therefore immune

Grevious the Purger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Soul Destroyers Guild

W/E

All hexes casted on him, ie every degen there is, lasts 1/3 of the time hence they are worth nothing against the rot. I just tried with 2 eles and 2 monks. We killed all the lvl 24 noobs easy but the rot has more health than glint so we couldnt take him.

ashed

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

whenever i find an enemy with loads of health, i always get this vision of the Grenth's Balance skill icon in my head...i have no clue why though...

im thinking about seeing a doctor about it, hopefully he doesnt have more hp than me.

Wtf?Omfg!Bbq!

Wtf?Omfg!Bbq!

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Netherlands [Woot]

Looking for a decent one :P

Poison does work against Rotscale, the best way to beat him would be with some heavy degen and interupts. Maybye like Spinal Shivers and some tanks. He does have way too much health...

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

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Rotscale is a Dragon and his friends are undead. Didn't he used to be undead? But he IS a dragon now. My friend and I were reasonably successful with Grenth's Balance and Judge's Insight Warriors but it was a 6 man group so it's probably worthless. Just in case you care...

Healing Monk
Healing Monk
Fire Elementalist
JI Warrior
JI Warrior
Grenth's Balance MM

imsystem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

northern cal

what about a air of enchant smiter and a tank i know desecrate enchant will hurt but rof and gaurdian spamming along with air of enchant and possibly ji on tank might out heal the damage

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

Scythes of Chaos [SoC], [PNOY] alliance guild forums: http://socguild.cjb.net

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Flatbow or Longbow with judges insight+FW? Maybe barrage to take out the monsters around the rot. Second man a bonder? Note: flatbow or longbow to stay out of casting range of the rot


Also, Hunt was thinking of a 'ranger heavy team build', I think we forgot about that lol

shadow39365

shadow39365

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

Angels Symphonys [AnSy]

Endure Pain, let your health get low and BAM with Grenths Balance, maybe if you duoed with a monk and the Monk casted Vital Blessing, youd deliver one hell of a Grenths SPike on him.

imsystem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

northern cal

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiaxhou of Trinity
Flatbow or Longbow with judges insight+FW? Maybe barrage to take out the monsters around the rot. Second man a bonder? Note: flatbow or longbow to stay out of casting range of the rot


Also, Hunt was thinking of a 'ranger heavy team build', I think we forgot about that lol
well rot is not an undead so ji doesent add much damage to him it only adds damage to the undeads around him

i just tried this with a full group 3 nukers and with 3 meteor showers on him he just laughed at us i dont even think he was getting knocked down

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Hmm... I've been save a 20% dmg vs. Dragons grip in my inventory for some time now. Maybe I should put it on a bow...

I went with a 3-man team of Warrior/Monk/Necro and we were able to get down to Rotscale and one henchman. However, the old bugger wouldn't go down in hp even a smidge.

Seems a Domination Mesmer and SS Necro could do the most damage to Rotscale. Of course a lot of healing would be on order too.

Maybe a 4-man team:

W/N Stances and using Grenth's Balance
Me/* Domination
N/* SS (for the minion dragons around him)
Monk Healing

yomama6969

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

soldiers of heaven

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guys u can solo him with a warrior build....1 spell u need is savage slash, cuz i remember him havin a heal spell...then just ripostes...if he's not melee anymore like i remember brign like...shields up and hit him with galraths n stuff

what is with u ppl... do u kno the stats on the horrible greens anyways?.....agh nvm if u all wanna waist ur time on them, ur decisions im gonna stop waistin my time looking for intelligence....

miles

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Best Guild In The Game [Best]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by yomama6969
guys u can solo him with a warrior build....1 spell u need is savage slash, cuz i remember him havin a heal spell...then just ripostes...if he's not melee anymore like i remember brign like...shields up and hit him with galraths n stuff

what is with u ppl... do u kno the stats on the horrible greens anyways?.....agh nvm if u all wanna waist ur time on them, ur decisions im gonna stop waistin my time looking for intelligence.... rofl u know they buffed him right?

go try to solo him now he has like 30000 hp and a 200 dmg foc and 200 dmg desecrete enchants. not to mention the incindiary rangers that are with him.

miguelsousaxpto

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

thats the best cripshot bow ingame and with beautifull skin.. i farm him with

1bonner/with 2 interrupts
1Shield of J. Healer
1 SS necro
2 warriors/frenzy and full dmg skills

we end the run with no DP, and yes its very hard to kill them but once the mob goes down the rotscale takes like 5m to die! GL

this is to much work for ppl to sell the bow for 30k.. desperate ppl ruining the market.. gg for them

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by miguelsousaxpto
this is to much work for ppl to sell the bow for 30k.. desperate ppl ruining the market.. gg for them I disagree here. The market will always price things fairly. 30k seems like a fine price for the bow. Especially since you can craft the exact same thing in Cantha for 10k + a few materials and a poisoner's string + 30hp grip. (Granted you might not get a 30hp grip very cheaply, but a 29 hp one is not that much.)

I guess what I'm really saying is that if you think it's not worth your time to farm this bow then go farm something else that is worth your time.

Anyway, I don't want to come off as harsh. Thanks for your input on the build to farm him.

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

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This may be a bit OT, but how in hell is this bow ANY good for a cripshot ranger?
First off there are some things I notice,
1. It's a recurve, crap fire rate and less range than a longbow
2. What does +33% Poisoned have ANYTHING to do with Cripshot?

Yes, you use apply poison with Cripshot, but poison is so easy to reapply if it get mended or w/e. A +33% Crippled string is MUCH more effective.

Why_Me

Why_Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Jersey

Mo/

Whats up with people and SS necros? Sure, they're great against groups of melee attackers, but no good versus him. Its a hex, they last like 1/3 the normal duration. Straight damage from mesmers or eles would work much better.

prodikal

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

thats why necros can bring mantra of persistence.

also I have heard from everyone ive talked to "its the ultimate cripshot bow" please explain why?

yomama6969

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

soldiers of heaven

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclarity
This may be a bit OT, but how in hell is this bow ANY good for a cripshot ranger?
First off there are some things I notice,
1. It's a recurve, crap fire rate and less range than a longbow
2. What does +33% Poisoned have ANYTHING to do with Cripshot?

Yes, you use apply poison with Cripshot, but poison is so easy to reapply if it get mended or w/e. A +33% Crippled string is MUCH more effective. point in case.....plus i also agree for sumthin like this worth the little ammount of cash, ur time is better spent else where.

Roupe

Roupe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Id say

one healer
one ritualist with ritual lord and shelter
ranger with barrage and JI (and interupt & degen)
one warrior

Lando Griffen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclarity
This may be a bit OT, but how in hell is this bow ANY good for a cripshot ranger?
First off there are some things I notice,
1. It's a recurve, crap fire rate and less range than a longbow
2. What does +33% Poisoned have ANYTHING to do with Cripshot?

Yes, you use apply poison with Cripshot, but poison is so easy to reapply if it get mended or w/e. A +33% Crippled string is MUCH more effective. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the intended purpose of a cripshot ranger in this case is a flag runner. Recurve bow = faster shot (like having favorable winds up), which is harder to dodge. If you're gonna poison them, why not +33%? when saw this bow, my first thought was that it would be a great bow for a gvg flag runner.

Megengo

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Midnight Hand

R/Mo

I think a 3-man group of JI Rangers would work great. Each one bring a spirit like FW, Winnow, maybe EW to counter the QZ that the enemies use. Then just pelt away from long range with a flatbow. I think I'm gonna try this tonight with some guildies.

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

Havn't tried it yet, but with QZ SB should recharge pretty fast.



Arcane Rotscale, and maybe bring a mesmer for Interujpt/Shutdown WITH Signet of humility or something. And a Choking Gas/Practice Stance Ranger(maybe). AND OR Have the mesmer be Me/R with QZ and serpants Quickness and have Rotscale Powerblocked(Take out Energy Surge for Powerblock) the whole time.

miguelsousaxpto

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lando Griffen
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the intended purpose of a cripshot ranger in this case is a flag runner. Recurve bow = faster shot (like having favorable winds up), which is harder to dodge. If you're gonna poison them, why not +33%? when saw this bow, my first thought was that it would be a great bow for a gvg flag runner. well seems like theres some smart ppl here ^^

JiggyFly

JiggyFly

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

So-Cal

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Mo/

Tried killing him the other day, my group had 5 N/Mo bloodspikers and a Mo/Rt wth Protection prayers and spirits. It worked fairly well, we then tried it with 3 N/Mo and a Mo/Rt later...but that dragon has so much health, not to mention its' 227+ damage Deathly Swarms...

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

I used to run a good build in a certain place that had good sephis axe drop rates. In this run, I cross paths with Rotscale. I think my build was something like as follows:

Shield of Judgement {E}
Cyclone Axe
Smite Hex
Live Vicariously
Balth's Spirit
Mend Ail

Can't remember the rest off hand, but the next time I get on my tank I might try that run again and see if I can get one of them new fancy bows. If I get it to work like it used to, I'll post here.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

They have made him a lot harder since the days when you could solo him.

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

This is imo a great cripshot bow, because:
- Poison Covers the Cripple Immediately when applied
- Poison makes for nice damage while doing so
- Recurve has faster arrow speed, so its harder to DODGE... Cripshot can still be dodged... not evaded or blocked...
- On my cripshot ranger I keep ppl crippled, I dont keep firing away at them, hell.. I dont even care when I have empathy + SS on me and why not.. they have SoJ on them.. I only hit them once every 30 secs or so...

Lady Kalvam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Once his little friends are dead, a single (good) interrupt ranger can keep Rotscale at bay, Concussion Shot ftw. As soon as he is suffering from dazed, you have a small window where he won't pump out his insane damage. The good thing is that Concussion Shot recharges the very second it wears off, allowing you to instantly re-apply it.
The main problem though is to do damage. When Rotscale is perma interrupted, spells like Spiteful Spirit won't do any good. SoJ does neither. Plus, Rotscale no longer is undead so you can't just own him with smiting spells.

My bet is, that an AoE Smiter (due to healing with added damage) and an interrupt ranger could duo him. But it would take a real insane amount of time as in: not worth it (though he drops the bow every time).

Huntmaster

Huntmaster

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

I is not canadien

Guillotine Tactics [GanK]

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Although i would have enjoyed a crip string on the bow, this will suffice because a +5 energy recurve bow is damn near impossible to find.

Recurve because they have the best accuracy in the game.

Anyway, we farmed this guy tonight, 3 bows in one run. Heres the easy way to do this:

1 nuker with MS.
1-3 tanks.
1-4 monks.

Get to the bunch, have the tanks take aggro and drop a MS on the dragons. They'll die. Rotscales dragon buddies also drop this bow, no need to even take the time to kill Rotty...

(If you REALLY want to kill Rotscale, 1 choking gas ranger, 1 fire nuker and whatever else. Easy kill.)

warriorsmiley

warriorsmiley

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Vandal Hearts [VH]

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Its refered as the best cripshot bow because recurve bows have the best hit rate. Cripshot got hit with the 15 energy cost so another 5 energy adds another hit of the attack. And as far as the crippling bowstring over the poisonious one 33% longer cripple duration when there crippled for 6 seconds isnt much but 33% longer poison duration when there poisoned for 11 seconds you decide.

Why_Me

Why_Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Jersey

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One perma-obsidian flesh tanker.
One air of enchant smiter.
One holy wrath/ retribution monk.

Since the enchanter never actually enters the AoE, Rotscale will never target him, so the ele will be the target. Since both FoC and Desecrate Enchants are spells, rotscale can do nothing but attack. This makes him no threat at all, and the enchanter can just deal massive damage.

damkel

damkel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Nice ideas. Keep them coming.

Tried soloing him today. Did not go well. Almost impossible to pull those bowmasters away from the island.

Maybe use Grenths balance (for major damage and healing)?
Then Plague touch to daze Rotscale when he use's Deafening Roar.

Remember rotscale has Malaise (you suffer -2 energy degen), which can really hurt any casters.

Here's a pic of a little build i tried earlier.

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

me and my buddies have 3 MANNED ROTSCALE pictor below!!



PS i got permission for their names to be shown, but they dont want a bazillion tells. im also sorry for the bad quality. the ele was just a erson that we were showing. he did nothing at all.

ak347

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

I'm thinking spirit bond monk with arcane echo sb,
ss necro, backup ele nuker/res'er

Sai Rith

Sai Rith

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lando Griffen
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the intended purpose of a cripshot ranger in this case is a flag runner. Recurve bow = faster shot (like having favorable winds up), which is harder to dodge. If you're gonna poison them, why not +33%? when saw this bow, my first thought was that it would be a great bow for a gvg flag runner. Not only that,crip shot is a lot of energy.

BowLad21

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

In that screenshot, the name of the bow is blue. Yet the names of the items are blue. To my best knowledge of greens, they appear with Green names.

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

the ele did nothing and the picture did it itself when i edited that way and no it wasnt arcane echo sb

fire itsim

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

A/Rt

Maybe you should just get a party of 4 and pay for that group to give you a good show. Hardest part is to find a good group willing to just use the skills that are suggested to work as a team. GL and have fun. Going in groups of 8 who dont even make it to RotScale without a DP is hillarious to watch.

Course i meant to post here lol
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3065502

Ecksor

Ecksor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

kkthnxbai

Knights And Heroes [Beer]

looky looky my friend and i duo farmed with 2 monks! Rotscale got pwned in about 5-10 mins.