Enemies now drop items when fighting each other in FoW (after 6/15) - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

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Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 08:25 - 1

After the 6/15 update, did anyone notice that the enemies now drop items for players even if they are fighting each other and you dont attack them in FoW?

A friend told me this, so we went in and did a chest run to try it, and I got 2 shards and a bunch of other stuff like limbs and remains.

I'm sure it works in other areas where enemies fight each other too.

I really hope they meant to do this and it's not a bug they are going to fix

but... there's really no reason to add this feature, so I'm sure its just a bug.

Waywards

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 08:27 - 2

Perhaps this is related: Henchmen are dropping gold when they die. One dropped 596 gold.

I also found a green just sitting on the floor.

This looks like a bug to me. I hope it's not a rollback-worthy one.

howdy y'all

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hells Guild of Gods

R/

16 Jun 2006 at 08:29 - 3

i really hope its not a bug i have gotten some nice golds from watching fights

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 08:29 - 4

cool, maybe if I go out with the henches now, they'll start coughing up all those items they never use but get assigned to them. lol

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

16 Jun 2006 at 08:32 - 5

H03 133 CH17 !!!

BTW, anyone know where to catch the biggest hench battle?

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 08:59 - 6

sounds like a new kind of farming for noobs

u run from A to B with henchies and just before zoning u get em killed and grab the gold

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 12:01 - 7

GLF npcs for hench farm

Selerious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

16 Jun 2006 at 12:11 - 8

Just got to watch Alesia, shes a gold hoarder. Party wipe and the other henchies dropped around 200 gold, she dropped 600. And for the hencie drops they drop the gold that was shared in the party. More for me.

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

16 Jun 2006 at 12:16 - 9

im gonna guess this is a bug. i went into FoW solo a few times with just running skills to check this out. ran right to the area where the shadows fight the skeletals and started picking up the freebies a couple minutes later. decided to lead the rest of the skeletals over to the shadows for more obsidian goodness - ended up with 10 shards in about an hour to an hour and a half.

as it stands, its well worth the 1k fee to get in. i only died once without getting a shard, and most times, i suicided after i had lead all the skeles over and picked up all the drops. once you get the run TO the door down, theres really not much skill involved (although leading groups with icehands is tricky). maybe ill learn the spider solo farming build and do both, although im sure this is much faster (can do a run in 10 to 15min depending on how fast you can get the skeletals over).

anyway, im gonna guess theyll fix this or a) every whammo or ranger will be farming shards 24/7 or b) shards will drop to about 50gold each! so enjoy it while it lasts .... or until its officially labeled an exploit.

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 14:16 - 10

You can get the Naga to farm you a Geoffers Bulwark. Handy if you haven't got one yet.

pork soldier

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 15:18 - 11

Same for Jacqui's Aegis .. ^_^

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

16 Jun 2006 at 15:20 - 12

It's got to be a bug that will be fixed, otherwise you farm for a green, it doesn't drop, get henchies killed, they drop it. Yea right

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 15:29 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by pork soldier

Same for Jacqui's Aegis .. ^_^

And Amadis Staff. Just have to follow him around till something kills him.

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

16 Jun 2006 at 15:40 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markaedw

It's got to be a bug that will be fixed, otherwise you farm for a green, it doesn't drop, get henchies killed, they drop it. Yea right

The henchies only drop gold.

The bad guys will however kill each other and you can grab the loot XD

Well known conflict zones:

Snake Dance: Dwarves vs Trolls vs Stone Summit
FoW: Skeleton Army vs Shadow Army
Iron Mines of Moladune: Dwarves VS White Mantle
Defend Droknar's Forge: Avicara vs Titans

get some popcorn and enjoy the fights!

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

16 Jun 2006 at 15:41 - 15

Hey all... YOU drop gold when you die too!

For real!

Someone needs to test and see if it lowers the gold in your inventory however.

Lady Kalvam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 15:42 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

The henchies only drop gold.

The bad guys will however kill each other and you can grab the loot XD

Well known conflict zones:

Snake Dance: Dwarves vs Trolls vs Stone Summit
FoW: Skeleton Army vs Shadow Army
Iron Mines of Moladune: Dwarves VS White Mantle
Defend Droknar's Forge: Avicara vs Titans

get some popcorn and enjoy the fights!

Add pretty much every Luxon Area into that list as well. The outcasts basically fight everyone.

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

16 Jun 2006 at 15:46 - 17

I dont want to say it but looks like its gonna be another server rollback cause of the screwups.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

16 Jun 2006 at 15:52 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

I dont want to say it but looks like its gonna be another server rollback cause of the screwups.

I don't think so... it may have been intended to allow battling enemies to drop things (hey, why not... if people want to farm fighting enemy groups they'll have to spend time to wait for the battle, which will actually slow their farming down...) but it may be an unintended side effect of the henchies dropping gold. However, the henches are not farmable. They only drop what they collected and when you pick it up you share it back. Consecutive hench deaths reduce their drop... the third death they're dropping one or two gold, hardly worth the effort to get them repeatedly killed.

It's likely a bug, but hardly significant.

Although... it could cause fights when the Coldfires and Smites battle it out in the UW... My ECTO! No, Mine! Mine!

Lady Kalvam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 15:56 - 19

Actually it is much much faster than normal farming. Level 28+ Critters can kill each other at an amazing speed. And well, basically all you've got to do is run around, go afk for 2 minutes, come back and collect items well worth several plat with the occasional green item inbetween.

/edit:
Another sideeffect is, your farmcount is not affected as you didn't actually kill the enemies... just picked up the items.

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

16 Jun 2006 at 15:57 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Hey all... YOU drop gold when you die too!

For real!

Someone needs to test and see if it lowers the gold in your inventory however.

Oooh.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

16 Jun 2006 at 16:01 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Kalvam

Actually it is much much faster than normal farming. Level 28+ Critters can kill each other at an amazing speed. And well, basically all you've got to do is run around, go afk for 2 minutes, come back and collect items well worth several plat with the occasional green item inbetween.

Interesting, interesting...

You realize that this means, if you do it right, you can farm with a full group of henchies and NOT have to share the item drops with them... they're only shared if your party does the killing...

It'd be funny if henches would pick up items now. HA!

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 16:06 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Kalvam

Add pretty much every Luxon Area into that list as well. The outcasts basically fight everyone.

In the Kurzik areas the Wardens fight the Mantis. The Afflicted fight everything too.

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 16:07 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

I dont want to say it but looks like its gonna be another server rollback cause of the screwups.

If I weren't at work, and was able to benefit from this I'd be against that...
But since I AM working: Roll, baby, roll!

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

16 Jun 2006 at 16:08 - 24

That would explain why I walked out of the door in Drok's this morning an immediately saw a troll drop a tusk - couldn't find the dang tusk though.

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

16 Jun 2006 at 16:12 - 25

gayla hatchery explorable area. ^^

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

16 Jun 2006 at 16:18 - 26

I just tried it, killed the boss outside of waking waters (Kurzik), no green, killed the henchie team, still no green, and no gold.

BrutusV

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Aequitas Deis [AD] http://aequitasdeis.guildportal.com

W/N

16 Jun 2006 at 16:18 - 27

Lol if I drop gold, I hope I don't drop my gold ITEMs as well. Hahaha

Too bad I'm at work and can't test it out.

@ Markaedw: Did you mean the ritualist construct? I didn't think they drop any greens?

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

16 Jun 2006 at 16:25 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrutusV

Lol if I drop gold, I hope I don't drop my gold ITEMs as well. Hahaha

Too bad I'm at work and can't test it out.

@ Markaedw: Did you mean the ritualist construct? I didn't think they drop any greens?

I can see where this is going:

Krysten Riega drops a Krysten's Saber which your party reserves for Alesia [Healer Henchman.]

...noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 16:43 - 29

This would be an easy way for anet to put in joke "henchmen" items.

Alesia's wand. 11-22 Attacks 33% faster -10 armor while attacking -15e (customized for alesia)

Beraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

E/Mo

16 Jun 2006 at 16:55 - 30

I highly doubt this was intended. It isn't in the update notes.

BowLad21

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 16:59 - 31

I'd like to point out, neither were specifics about the new greens.

Beraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

E/Mo

16 Jun 2006 at 17:01 - 32

No, no specifics, but the new items were mentioned. There was no word at all about a change in how things drop.

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

16 Jun 2006 at 17:02 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallandor

I dont want to say it but looks like its gonna be another server rollback cause of the screwups.

hmm. I hope this time is like the last (under 12 hours) last night I earned a lot of faction from the new update and I'd hate to lose all that.

I probably wont be playing tonight just incase.

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

16 Jun 2006 at 17:07 - 34

I would rather they drop for them, then I can wait it out and loot them, to bad henchies wont rage quit.

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

16 Jun 2006 at 17:18 - 35

The contruct, yes, it does drop the green reported in Guildwiki, it is a nifty looking wand that does 1/2 cast and 1/2 recharge 10%. My necro and 3 other henchies had to kill the construct quite a few times to get it.

So I killed the construct then sent them after the dragon moss, pulled back so Danika wouldn't heal them, then went back to trigger her res, then watched them die. Nothing.

BTW what would have been cool is if an NPC like Togo drops when he dies (tried that too).

I should post pics when I get home again.

personaljihad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 18:10 - 36

Confirmed, went out in gyala hatchery got tons of drops and tons of exp without fighting.

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

16 Jun 2006 at 19:11 - 37

This definately looks like a bug. Imagine how effective a bot would be on something like this.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

16 Jun 2006 at 19:29 - 38

This has to be a bug, when outside few zones and saw different drops for me without having to do anything. Also went to UW and surprise to see how fast ectos and other stuffs drop for you without fighting anyone.

Lady Kalvam

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

16 Jun 2006 at 19:48 - 39

Seems like they are fixing this. Some of the areas are currently inaccesible.

My Documents

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Crippled Black Phoenix

16 Jun 2006 at 20:28 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

Also went to UW and surprise to see how fast ectos and other stuffs drop for you without fighting anyone.

How does that work? I don't remember anything in UW that fought each other. Last time I checked, everything in the underworld got along.

Oh, wait. Coldfires and smites?