So...My friend was making a guild and he had 8 members after the first day...he woke up in the mourning and had 3 members...After that day he recruited 12 more members...woke up and had 2 members left...guild hopping has goto be stopped. You should have to stay in your guild for at least a week (Onless kicked) and leaders should be able to look up Guild Hopping history...
just an idea
Guild Hopping
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Avarre
So you'd be stuck in a guild if you didn't want to stay in it?
If your friend was making a guild from scratch, then the turnover is going to be high. If it's high, there doesn't seem to be any incentive to stay, especially true if it's a new guild.
If your friend was making a guild from scratch, then the turnover is going to be high. If it's high, there doesn't seem to be any incentive to stay, especially true if it's a new guild.
RotN
What do you expect when you go around spamming "New Guild looking for members"?
A good guild needs to be built up carefully and not just take random people.
A good guild needs to be built up carefully and not just take random people.
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So you'd be stuck in a guild if you didn't want to stay in it?
If your friend was making a guild from scratch, then the turnover is going to be high. If it's high, there doesn't seem to be any incentive to stay, especially true if it's a new guild. |
prism2525
!! aa !!, frankly i don't know how you come up with such ideas... I don't like the 'hopping' either but you can't possibly control other players! your friend might just be a bit unexperienced.
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Originally Posted by prism2525
!! aa !!, frankly i don't know how you come up with such ideas... I don't like the 'hopping' either but you can't possibly control other players! your friend might just be a bit unexperienced.
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Sofonisba
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Originally Posted by !!! aa !!!!
Yes, that would teach you not to stay in random Guilds....
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Do you mean to use the word, "join" not "stay?"
To clarify: Are you saying that it's up to the new recruit to decide whether a guild is for him/her before joining? If so, I propose that it is just as much your responsibility to psychoanalyze your new recruit before inviting them, to make sure they are a good fit.
What are your recruiting methods? Do you invite random people? Random invites = random behavior. Talk to the people first.
I suggest your "friend" get a forum, describe what the guild is about, write a Code of Conduct, etc., to minimize surprises.
Sofonisba
Also?
So apropos to the discussion here, and we all believe it too.
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MY FRIEND IS VERY EXPERIENCED! YOU SHULDA SEEN ALL THE CHICKS HE HAD LAST NIGHT!
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Kariston The Swift
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Skuld
People will stay if they want to. You should make sure there is something to keep them there, not to be forced.
llsektorll
the key word here is "pick up" .... PUGs FAIL!..... guilds has to have a group of people that doesn't necessarily have to be friends but should have somewhat the same goal. Whether it be PvE, Tombs, or GvG. Picking up people will not work because as soon as the poeple realize the guild is going no where people will leave. You should accept people with vent/ts those poeple say longer. It is harder to leave a guild that you have spoken too than it is to leave a person you know by a bunch of text. All in all it comes down to keeping the members interest.
fiery
I would love a guild hopping feature with every guild invite you have you can test out each guild without having to lose the rest of the invites you lost.
So say you GVG for guild "A", you get their tag. Unclick the current guild "A" tag, check another guild "B" tag box and repeat. Until you decided which guild you like among the rest.
So say you GVG for guild "A", you get their tag. Unclick the current guild "A" tag, check another guild "B" tag box and repeat. Until you decided which guild you like among the rest.
llsektorll
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I would love a guild hopping feature with every guild invite you have you can test out each guild without having to lose the rest of the invites you lost.
So say you GVG for guild "A", you get their tag. Unclick the current guild "A" tag, check another guild "B" tag box and repeat. Until you decided which guild you like among the rest. |
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Arkantos
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Theres many reasons for guild hopping. Being stuck in a guild for a week that you dont like isnt fair. The only real reason guild hopping is bad is you lose 100g per person that leaves. If its such a big deal, make them pay 100g to join the guild.
Theres many reasons for guild hopping. Being stuck in a guild for a week that you dont like isnt fair. The only real reason guild hopping is bad is you lose 100g per person that leaves. If its such a big deal, make them pay 100g to join the guild.
B Ephekt
So if I join a crappy guild you want me to be forced into staying in it? How about no? I'm sorry, but your friend needs to screen recruits better or just deal with the fact that people will leave when they notice only 3 people are online.
Malice Black
i guild hop...why? because i can and because i have never found a guild that suits me..some are too quiet some have too many school kiddies some are too inactive some are too poor <nothing worse then ppl complaing they are broke but all they do is sit in grotto or GH>
so on goes the search
so on goes the search
!!! aa !!!!
humm...if your worried about bieng stuck in a guild all you have to do is join a Guild with 4-5 friends...Then you won't have to worry about it
-sadego
-sadego
master_of_puppets
Very bad suggestion.
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Though the tryout tag thing would be pretty good
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Though the tryout tag thing would be pretty good
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Vahn Roi
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The individual should be allowed to experience different guild types and should not be bound to the first one they join.
If your friend is having trouble keeping people, he needs to run a stricter recruiting filter.
The individual should be allowed to experience different guild types and should not be bound to the first one they join.
If your friend is having trouble keeping people, he needs to run a stricter recruiting filter.
Undivine
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humm...if your worried about bieng stuck in a guild all you have to do is join a Guild with 4-5 friends...Then you won't have to worry about it
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Also, I suspect your friend's chicks left him just as easily.
oHcHeese
I can understand your reaction on the hopping problem, but still, there is nothing you can do about it. and the worste thing you could do is to force ppl to stay for one week, that's would just scare ppl of !
the hopping is a problem every new guild has to face...But I think it's a great problem, realy you should be glad about it ! When I first started my guild, the only thing I did was recruting...let's say that I got 5 ppl / hour...and 4 of them left , and 1 not leaving ! so that 1 person must like you / the guild...otherwise he would leave....if you invite a 50 ppl, and 40 leave, you would have 10 ''die-hards'', and these 10 would form a much more fun group than 50 ppl who hardly don't speak to each other because they don't like the group or something like that.
oh oh oh, and: my guild's 6 months old tomorrow ! and I can asure you, we are a great guild ! We have party's and competitions in the gayhall ( don't know where that came from, but everyone calls it like that in our guild
) every week ! We even had one IRL meeting ( we're all belgian, making a meeting not hard 
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this reply might of been a bit off topic, but I hope it helped
the hopping is a problem every new guild has to face...But I think it's a great problem, realy you should be glad about it ! When I first started my guild, the only thing I did was recruting...let's say that I got 5 ppl / hour...and 4 of them left , and 1 not leaving ! so that 1 person must like you / the guild...otherwise he would leave....if you invite a 50 ppl, and 40 leave, you would have 10 ''die-hards'', and these 10 would form a much more fun group than 50 ppl who hardly don't speak to each other because they don't like the group or something like that.
oh oh oh, and: my guild's 6 months old tomorrow ! and I can asure you, we are a great guild ! We have party's and competitions in the gayhall ( don't know where that came from, but everyone calls it like that in our guild
) every week ! We even had one IRL meeting ( we're all belgian, making a meeting not hard )...this reply might of been a bit off topic, but I hope it helped
sgtclarity
If there's no incentive to stay in a guild why should they stay?
It's not the members fault for leaving, it's the guild leader's for not making the guild an attractive one. Guild leader is not an easy job, you have to cater to everyone as well as make sure you guild does what appeals to the general populace.
And besides that, what do you expect from zerg recruiting?
It's not the members fault for leaving, it's the guild leader's for not making the guild an attractive one. Guild leader is not an easy job, you have to cater to everyone as well as make sure you guild does what appeals to the general populace.
And besides that, what do you expect from zerg recruiting?
Bul Kathos
this seems more like a punishment, why should we be punished for joining and not being able to leave.
expample- your rank 7 which isn't that high nowadays, and you wanna join a guild that is rank between 200 and below, and the guild your about to join tells you there gonna get there in a week or so, and once you join there rank like 5,000, most people won't stay and if they had this in people would get mad because they couldnt leave unless they got the guild leader to kick them out by asking or just pissing him off.
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expample- your rank 7 which isn't that high nowadays, and you wanna join a guild that is rank between 200 and below, and the guild your about to join tells you there gonna get there in a week or so, and once you join there rank like 5,000, most people won't stay and if they had this in people would get mad because they couldnt leave unless they got the guild leader to kick them out by asking or just pissing him off.
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monk domination
meh inviting anyone who wants in is a good way to start a guild, i made a guild 1 week in we had 50 members, after u get a good number, start to weed it out, i like the history idea, might be a bit much for anet tho...