Prepare for re-roll update 6/15
Nanii
Prepare for a re-roll in the next few hours.
Server has been disconnecting me, while I been trying to go out to Gyala Hatchery to.. watch Reefclaw die a few times. And my guildies cant enter ToA..
I think that this is caused by the glitches, monster drops, henchmen drops.
Im just warning you guys and girls out there farming FoW and others to take advantage of this. Prepare for a Re-roll!
I would like to edit: This is kind of a big deal thing. Everyone is farming FoW.. alot.
Even seen "LFG FoW mob farm" I mean..
What will happen? Prices will drop, everyone will get rich, and this fast.
People will start having their "Special spots" to farm it out.
And this will ruin the economy. Its like having bots running in and out of Elona. So yes, this is a big deal. I have gotten one shard. One green shield (reefclaw) and Im not farming anymore, becouse who knows, ANet is not that dumb not to realise that this is ruining the economy.
Henchmen do drop gold also, all you have to do is call target, they die, and you pick up the gold.
Repeating this a few times you got 1k easy.
Even if you do share this in party.
If anyone thinks "well this is great, I can farm shards without doing anything" go ahead. But what will happen when they drop in price, and are worth 300g at the end?
You will end up getting all the shards you need for the nice FoW-not-worth-the-gold armor.
And in that time, ANET will probably have an update about this.
IE: Updated AI of monsters, they now do not attack eachother.
That would make the shards go up in price, and you already sold all you had, becouse it was a good deal, 50 shards in about 20 runs to FoW, Ill sell them. Thats what everyone is doing.
And you will loose the gold anyway.
This is what happens, its like buying shards at merchant for 1k each, and not even that since the drops are about 2-3 shards each run you are doing to FoW as we speak.
Ruining the economy is not what we need. We got the bots still there to ruin it for us.
Edit again
How lazy have we gotten, that lazy, that we need a bug to do the work for us too?
Noo no, this is not suposed to be there. This is a bug.
And it is only fair, for all, to reroll.
And I hope, that they will. I have gotten my nice items yeah, but I rather lose them with along with a re-roll than keeping them and dont let others have this opportunety.
We got to play fair.
EDIT: A quote that made me happy to see:
Enter the Fissure by yourself.
Run to the spot in front of the Forge where a small band of Shadows stands.
Wait three minutes.
Come back and tell me you still feel the same way.
Thank you Rent.
I edit again, ladder matches? Was there NO ladder matches at all under the rune crash?
Yes there was. So dont say they cant reroll for that.
And for those who say, back to my farming.. I pity the fool.
I think I got a small idea of what will happen.
Wait and see.
EDIT last time
They fixed it, no roll-back all happy
No more loot from mobs vs mobs or henchies
YEII you go ANET! Love you
Server has been disconnecting me, while I been trying to go out to Gyala Hatchery to.. watch Reefclaw die a few times. And my guildies cant enter ToA..
I think that this is caused by the glitches, monster drops, henchmen drops.
Im just warning you guys and girls out there farming FoW and others to take advantage of this. Prepare for a Re-roll!
I would like to edit: This is kind of a big deal thing. Everyone is farming FoW.. alot.
Even seen "LFG FoW mob farm" I mean..
What will happen? Prices will drop, everyone will get rich, and this fast.
People will start having their "Special spots" to farm it out.
And this will ruin the economy. Its like having bots running in and out of Elona. So yes, this is a big deal. I have gotten one shard. One green shield (reefclaw) and Im not farming anymore, becouse who knows, ANet is not that dumb not to realise that this is ruining the economy.
Henchmen do drop gold also, all you have to do is call target, they die, and you pick up the gold.
Repeating this a few times you got 1k easy.
Even if you do share this in party.
If anyone thinks "well this is great, I can farm shards without doing anything" go ahead. But what will happen when they drop in price, and are worth 300g at the end?
You will end up getting all the shards you need for the nice FoW-not-worth-the-gold armor.
And in that time, ANET will probably have an update about this.
IE: Updated AI of monsters, they now do not attack eachother.
That would make the shards go up in price, and you already sold all you had, becouse it was a good deal, 50 shards in about 20 runs to FoW, Ill sell them. Thats what everyone is doing.
And you will loose the gold anyway.
This is what happens, its like buying shards at merchant for 1k each, and not even that since the drops are about 2-3 shards each run you are doing to FoW as we speak.
Ruining the economy is not what we need. We got the bots still there to ruin it for us.
Edit again
How lazy have we gotten, that lazy, that we need a bug to do the work for us too?
Noo no, this is not suposed to be there. This is a bug.
And it is only fair, for all, to reroll.
And I hope, that they will. I have gotten my nice items yeah, but I rather lose them with along with a re-roll than keeping them and dont let others have this opportunety.
We got to play fair.
EDIT: A quote that made me happy to see:
Enter the Fissure by yourself.
Run to the spot in front of the Forge where a small band of Shadows stands.
Wait three minutes.
Come back and tell me you still feel the same way.
Thank you Rent.
I edit again, ladder matches? Was there NO ladder matches at all under the rune crash?
Yes there was. So dont say they cant reroll for that.
And for those who say, back to my farming.. I pity the fool.
I think I got a small idea of what will happen.
Wait and see.
EDIT last time
They fixed it, no roll-back all happy
No more loot from mobs vs mobs or henchies
YEII you go ANET! Love you
MSecorsky
This is certainly too minor of an issue to warrant a full server setback.
Tiyuri
lol .
Markaedw
good thing all my greens were obtained days ago. I don't think this is a re-roll, maybe a server shut down then a total bug fix.
Levi Garett
Yes what a minor problem for those of you out there getting rich...
Such a major problem for those of us that are at work and can't abuse the bugs. Even worse-for those out there that have worked long and hard for thier money only to see folks make the same amount in 1-2 hours.
Yes it's really fair to leave it like it is and not do a rollback.
Amazing that every time something like this has happened I've been stuck at work! (Ecto reset price, rune farming exploit, now this?) Owell
Edit: No sarcasm fix options:
A. Fix the bug and do a rollback
B. No bug fix, no rollback. It's not fair people weren't in "the right place at the right time" so they could get rich off buggy code.
Such a major problem for those of us that are at work and can't abuse the bugs. Even worse-for those out there that have worked long and hard for thier money only to see folks make the same amount in 1-2 hours.
Yes it's really fair to leave it like it is and not do a rollback.
Amazing that every time something like this has happened I've been stuck at work! (Ecto reset price, rune farming exploit, now this?) Owell
Edit: No sarcasm fix options:
A. Fix the bug and do a rollback
B. No bug fix, no rollback. It's not fair people weren't in "the right place at the right time" so they could get rich off buggy code.
Arkantos
I highly doubt there gonna do a roll-back. There probably just fixing the bug.
Former Ruling
They wouldn't roll back after so long anyway.
People don't understand that a "Rollback" isn't just pushing some button and inputting the time you want to go too and that it.
Theres alot of work on their end to do, and the influx of emails they get afterwards has to be preplanned. Not only that, but it gets harder and harder on them to do it the longer its waited out. Thats why most times in games, if some exploit lated too long (over a few hours AT MOST) they'll just fix it and cut the loses that happened in that time.
People don't understand that a "Rollback" isn't just pushing some button and inputting the time you want to go too and that it.
Theres alot of work on their end to do, and the influx of emails they get afterwards has to be preplanned. Not only that, but it gets harder and harder on them to do it the longer its waited out. Thats why most times in games, if some exploit lated too long (over a few hours AT MOST) they'll just fix it and cut the loses that happened in that time.
MSecorsky
You know... all they have to do is stop monsters from fighting, bring a little love and joy into the world.
So they can all kill us together, as one.
Happy happy joy joy...
So they can all kill us together, as one.
Happy happy joy joy...
Chicken Ftw
Panic/speculation topic yay. >.>
Rollbacks aren't fair to anyone who's played during the time the rollback affects. Seriously doubt there will be one now. The economy isn't ruined, the game isn't falling apart, and I seriously doubt anyone's gotten rich in one day. A rollback now would just be one more reason for me to stop playing GW.
Oh, and btw, no, I'm not one of these people who supposedly got rich from buggy code. <.<
Rollbacks aren't fair to anyone who's played during the time the rollback affects. Seriously doubt there will be one now. The economy isn't ruined, the game isn't falling apart, and I seriously doubt anyone's gotten rich in one day. A rollback now would just be one more reason for me to stop playing GW.
Oh, and btw, no, I'm not one of these people who supposedly got rich from buggy code. <.<
Former Ruling
Nothing is happening right now thats making people millionaires >_>
Farming greens was expected before they even put them in the game, and The Monsters fighting each other and dropping items isn't putting anything into the world any faster than if you were actively killing the monsters yourself.
Farming greens was expected before they even put them in the game, and The Monsters fighting each other and dropping items isn't putting anything into the world any faster than if you were actively killing the monsters yourself.
personaljihad
I wonder if they work on weekends, if not we can abuse this all weekend.
Rent
Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Nothing is happening right now thats making people millionaires >_>
Farming greens was expected before they even put them in the game, and The Monsters fighting each other and dropping items isn't putting anything into the world any faster than if you were actively killing the monsters yourself. |
Run to the spot in front of the Forge where a small band of Shadows stands.
Wait three minutes.
Come back and tell me you still feel the same way.
Lady Kalvam
A rollback is basically the very last thing a company maintaining an Online Game can do. There will be lots and loooots of annoyed customers, a lot of anger will find its way into the game, boards and whatever place there might be. Something a company simply can't afford to do often. I expect A-Net do fix this bug asap and ban the ones exploiting it big style for a week or two. The player casually playing won't be that much affected by it.
You see, the first Trader Reset actually had a much larger impact on the game than this bug here will ever have if it is stopped in time... and it was not rolled back. The second trader reset happening though, the one with the bugged Traders allowing everyone to stack up on literally thousands of runes and rares - that was the one causing a rollback.
You see, the first Trader Reset actually had a much larger impact on the game than this bug here will ever have if it is stopped in time... and it was not rolled back. The second trader reset happening though, the one with the bugged Traders allowing everyone to stack up on literally thousands of runes and rares - that was the one causing a rollback.
Ineffiable
This is stupid if the rollback happens. I've made some purchases, like the Totem Axe, and a +5 energy sword.
The last time, the rollback was declared after 3 hours of rune drops or soemthing like that.
The last time, the rollback was declared after 3 hours of rune drops or soemthing like that.
Traveller
With the introduction of the new greens as well, in case of a rollback EVERYONE who went and farmed for the greens would have to go back and get them again. I probably wouldn't have the energy to do all that again.
Relnor
I doubt there will be a rollback...I've been playing all day and didn't even know about the bug until now :\
Loviatar
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Originally Posted by Nanii
Prepare for a re-roll in the next few hours.
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this is minor shoplifting compared to the mass looting of the merchants that had them doing a reroll.
not going to happen
back to my farming
Markaedw
Besides monster dropping like this is old news, I used to stand as close as possible for the Ranik mission as the trebuche was fired, triggering the drops
Vahn Roi
I take it most of the people saying "there's not gonna be a rollback" are the ones who got rich overnight :P
Dzan
Yes, this is a great idea, let's rollback all the GVGs for important ladder matches that happened in the past two days because some pvers got rich. Now that sounds like an idea that will fly.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I take it most of the people saying "there's not gonna be a rollback" are the ones who got rich overnight :P
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CyberNigma
I don't think there will be a rollback. Having said that, I hope they don't fix it soon either. Whenever they do that, the people staying at home playing fulltime usually end up getting richer and increasing whatever gap there is between rich and poor. If they leave the game the way it is all weekend, then the casual players and people that work (nod to those that work nights and weekends being exceptions) would also be affected by this, thus balancing the issue out a bit more. While some people say the prices of their items would drop, well the reverse is also true, they can buy more for cheaper as well themselves.
So, if they don't rollback the server, then I hope they leave the game in its state through the weekend so you don't get the stay-at-homes getting even richer as with the other updates in the past. I, myself, don't think that I want a rollback either. I don't buy/collect golds because they already drop so much in Cantha. I collect greens, but only by killing the stuff dropping them. I have never owned 15k or fissure armour and in fact preferred collector's armour for the longest time (till I ran out of storage), and most of that probably won't change. I bought my first superior absorption ever recently at the really low prices. I play the game quite a bit too - Grandmaster Cartographer Tyria/Cantha, Protector Tyria/Cantha, account 1 year old. Every time they fix something without rolling back (with the exception of the double mod axe exploit which they removed from the game), the damage is already done. Those that witnessed it already have theirs, and they have an in-game mechanism to prevent others from getting theirs (the update).
I just want to get out there and get that new hammer :-) I think it looks sharp lol..
So, if they don't rollback the server, then I hope they leave the game in its state through the weekend so you don't get the stay-at-homes getting even richer as with the other updates in the past. I, myself, don't think that I want a rollback either. I don't buy/collect golds because they already drop so much in Cantha. I collect greens, but only by killing the stuff dropping them. I have never owned 15k or fissure armour and in fact preferred collector's armour for the longest time (till I ran out of storage), and most of that probably won't change. I bought my first superior absorption ever recently at the really low prices. I play the game quite a bit too - Grandmaster Cartographer Tyria/Cantha, Protector Tyria/Cantha, account 1 year old. Every time they fix something without rolling back (with the exception of the double mod axe exploit which they removed from the game), the damage is already done. Those that witnessed it already have theirs, and they have an in-game mechanism to prevent others from getting theirs (the update).
I just want to get out there and get that new hammer :-) I think it looks sharp lol..
Guardian of the Light
This is too minor for a rollback.
Henchman droping gold: couple K gained.
Merchants screwing up prices: More then 100k SCREEEWWWING UP THE ECOMOMY DANGEROUSLY.
If it takes that much to reroll they'd probably reroll the servers to before everyone got their R3 emotes from using IWAY.
Henchman droping gold: couple K gained.
Merchants screwing up prices: More then 100k SCREEEWWWING UP THE ECOMOMY DANGEROUSLY.
If it takes that much to reroll they'd probably reroll the servers to before everyone got their R3 emotes from using IWAY.
MSecorsky
I don't think it's a big deal at all. Really, who cares about the gold or items? This isn't a game about wealth anyhow, so if everyone gets rich and has nice things so much the better.
Might get more people into Jade Quarry then.
Leave it as is, let people have fun and load up. No one gets hurt and we all enjoy.
Might get more people into Jade Quarry then.
Leave it as is, let people have fun and load up. No one gets hurt and we all enjoy.
Big Tony
I feel your pain, fellow workers, as I also can't take part in the "madness" that is ensuing after this update because of my silly need for money . But I definitely agree that there probably won't be a rollback, just a bug fix. If there were going to be a roll back, they would have done it already......
Vahn Roi
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Originally Posted by Dzan
Yes, this is a great idea, let's rollback all the GVGs for important ladder matches that happened in the past two days because some pvers got rich. Now that sounds like an idea that will fly.
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I love all you saying "leave it so those of us at work can catch up" some sound logic you have there.
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
Everyone gets screwed in a rollback, don't be so close-minded to think you're guild is the only group getting the shitty end of the stick.
I love all you saying "leave it so those of us at work can catch up" some sound logic you have there. |
Just let it be, now and forever. Why not?
Vahn Roi
Can you give a good reason why it should stay?
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
Can you give a good reason why it should stay?
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Everyone gets more.
Vahn Roi
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Yes.
Everyone gets more. |
Maxiemonster
I really don't care. I'm not going to get rich of this (simply because I don't feel like farming), and probably others won't either, because of whatever reason, though, why would I care that someone else got rich and happy? Good for them, but doesn't make the game any worse for me.
Good luck with your gold everyone!
Good luck with your gold everyone!
Vahn Roi
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Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
I really don't care. I'm not going to get rich of this (simply because I don't feel like farming), and probably others won't either, because of whatever reason, though, why would I care that someone else got rich and happy? Good for them, but doesn't make the game any worse for me.
Good luck with your gold everyone! |
MSecorsky
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
Everyone got more during the "Rune Rush" too
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Now, monsters fight, you clean up after and collect the loot. This allows for the average non-farming Joe to go out with a team of henchies and have at least some drops occur without fear of the henchies taking them.
Everyone wins.
Besides, it's a paced gain for all, not a wealth spike for a fortunate few.
Vahn Roi
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Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Somehow the relevance eludes me.
Now, monsters fight, you clean up after and collect the loot. This allows for the average non-farming Joe to go out with a team of henchies and have at least some drops occur without fear of the henchies taking them. Everyone wins. Besides, it's a paced gain for all, not a wealth spike for a fortunate few. |
Scutilla
I don't get why people think this exploit is something that can stay. It's basically giving people a way to make money without having to lift a finger (like botting, only without the against-the-EULA-ness).
If gold and the economy is unimportant to this extent, then why don't they just let everyone choose a full set of green weapons and 15k armor when they create a new PvE character?
I like free money as much as the next guy, but this is a tad rediculous.
(That said, I don't think there will be a rollback. People would be losing a whole day of progress, as well as all of the new greens that they got. There would be a LOT of unhappy campers in Tyria.)
If gold and the economy is unimportant to this extent, then why don't they just let everyone choose a full set of green weapons and 15k armor when they create a new PvE character?
I like free money as much as the next guy, but this is a tad rediculous.
(That said, I don't think there will be a rollback. People would be losing a whole day of progress, as well as all of the new greens that they got. There would be a LOT of unhappy campers in Tyria.)
Mr_eX
If ANet meant to do this, then it's something that players and the in-game economy will eventually adapt to. I can't see more drops as a bad thing. The group of monsters that wins the battle can still kill you--it's not like you're getting a *completely* free lunch.
If ANet slippped up and monsters aren't supposed to be dropping loot when they kill each other, then they'll fix it. No rollback. Especially not after the introduction of the Totem Axe, Rotwing Recurve Bow, etc. just yesterday.
If ANet slippped up and monsters aren't supposed to be dropping loot when they kill each other, then they'll fix it. No rollback. Especially not after the introduction of the Totem Axe, Rotwing Recurve Bow, etc. just yesterday.
Doomlord_Slayermann
Personally, I agree that a rollback is unlikely (as that would have an even more unpleasant effect on the economy due to the Green-farming situation), but the issue needs to be addressed. The gold is not a monumental amount and will not crash the economy overnight, but of course Arena.Net will do something... right?
Or... MORE MINIPETS! Same retarded solution as many of the issues that they have yet to address! Brilliant!
Or... MORE MINIPETS! Same retarded solution as many of the issues that they have yet to address! Brilliant!
Former Ruling
Again, I'll say...Nothing is flooding into the economy any faster than what already was...So what, I can watch some stuff die and pick up the stuff, It probably woulda been faster for me to just have killed all the stuff.
It isn't like these monsters are all of a sudden dropping 15^50 Gold Cys. Swords when you arent the one killing them. Its the same stuff you or henchies woulda got if you killed them.
It isn't like these monsters are all of a sudden dropping 15^50 Gold Cys. Swords when you arent the one killing them. Its the same stuff you or henchies woulda got if you killed them.
Ineffiable
Plus not every boss can be mobbed for their green with this trick, only a few, and those were crap ones anyway (geoffers bulwark)
I know that an experience Warrior could run out, aggro a huge mob, unleash it on a boss, then get the green if it drops, and sell in kaieng.
But that would reduce green prices, and that is an good thing (sunreach's shield 100k+ ecto? omgwtfhax, its the same stats as exaulted aegis, crappier skin)
Remember, anet made greens as a cheap alternative to getting high end weapons.
I know that an experience Warrior could run out, aggro a huge mob, unleash it on a boss, then get the green if it drops, and sell in kaieng.
But that would reduce green prices, and that is an good thing (sunreach's shield 100k+ ecto? omgwtfhax, its the same stats as exaulted aegis, crappier skin)
Remember, anet made greens as a cheap alternative to getting high end weapons.
eightyfour-onesevenfive
It's been how log now since the update was released? About a whole day, right? I think if Anet would've thought this issue was major enough to justify a rollback, they would've done it by now. No way they're gonna revert the whole game for more than a couple of hours, let alone a whole day!