Random Arenas
Conquering Lion
You shouldn't be allowed to leave a game once you enter a game in the random arenas. Too many people leave the games if they are about to die, or get stuck with a team that probably won't do well. It's annoying, and messes up the gameplay. If a player gets on a good team and wants to leave, he should be given an option at the end of the match during the time when you're going into your next match. That way the team will be able to get another player, and if someone has to log off for real reasons, they can do so.
Former Ruling
Leavers can annoy you, but thats a totally wrong way to go about it >_>
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Not thought through...limits the people that have legit things to do.
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Not thought through...limits the people that have legit things to do.
Conquering Lion
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Cassie McKnight
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Yeah you shouldn't be able to leave until there is a resault
Of course they could always just exit the game and log in again.
Maybe they should lose faction for quitting
Yeah you shouldn't be able to leave until there is a resault
Of course they could always just exit the game and log in again.
Maybe they should lose faction for quitting
Arkantos
Well, since they cant leave they'll stay and go afk. if your team wins, they get the faction. Also, they can easily just close GW. This isnt stopping anything.
Lafayette
Some things cannot wait a minute, and people can always go afk if they have important things to do (or just don't want to play) and can't leave. Plus, going afk ('jumping off') is just as bad as leaving outright.
People should be allowed to do what they want, and leave when they want - and not be forced to play ('cause being forced to do something is real fun, right?). It's annoying sure, but there are other probable methods of resolution aside from this without irritating those with legitimate reasons for quitting.
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People should be allowed to do what they want, and leave when they want - and not be forced to play ('cause being forced to do something is real fun, right?). It's annoying sure, but there are other probable methods of resolution aside from this without irritating those with legitimate reasons for quitting.
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Arcador
Well no, I suggest this:
-When you leave before 5-7 minutes of the game (of course you can leave if there is only 1 person alive from the other team that is running in circles with 4 run skills), you cannot join for another 4 minutes again, neither on RA or TA.
Reason for leaving - rage quitting. So 4 minutes will give a little cooldown. If you get dropped you will still need around 2-3 mins to login to the same place, and if you Quit by leaving the game...well...noone can force the leavers to leave if they really want to.
-When you leave before 5-7 minutes of the game (of course you can leave if there is only 1 person alive from the other team that is running in circles with 4 run skills), you cannot join for another 4 minutes again, neither on RA or TA.
Reason for leaving - rage quitting. So 4 minutes will give a little cooldown. If you get dropped you will still need around 2-3 mins to login to the same place, and if you Quit by leaving the game...well...noone can force the leavers to leave if they really want to.
Conquering Lion
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| People should be allowed to do what they want, and leave when they want - and not be forced to play ('cause being forced to do something is real fun, right?). It's annoying sure, but there are other probable methods of resolution aside from this without irritating those with legitimate reasons for quitting. |
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| Well, since they cant leave they'll stay and go afk. if your team wins, they get the faction. Also, they can easily just close GW. This isnt stopping anything. |
All I know is I hope something can be done about it. After I had made this post I logged onto GW and seen it happen 8 times. I only played 15 or so matches. I'm still confused about when this started happening so much. It seems to have doubled in the past month. Random arenas are f'd if shit keeps up at this rate.
bleh
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Originally Posted by Arcador
Well no, I suggest this:
-When you leave before 5-7 minutes of the game (of course you can leave if there is only 1 person alive from the other team that is running in circles with 4 run skills), you cannot join for another 4 minutes again, neither on RA or TA. Reason for leaving - rage quitting. So 4 minutes will give a little cooldown. If you get dropped you will still need around 2-3 mins to login to the same place, and if you Quit by leaving the game...well...noone can force the leavers to leave if they really want to. |
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Witchblade
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when they re leaving, there is a reason ... probably cuz they saw that the team wouldnt make it ...
so? why d they wait ? next game !
happens in missions a lot as well ...
when they re leaving, there is a reason ... probably cuz they saw that the team wouldnt make it ...
so? why d they wait ? next game !
happens in missions a lot as well ...
Yanman.be
If they have something urgent, let's say a GvG..let them leave....they don't mind a cooldown of a couple of minutes.
Now if you leave because you see you have a bad team ( bad team = you're bad yourself ), then they would go in RA again, but if they have a cooldown, they'd punish themselves
Now if you leave because you see you have a bad team ( bad team = you're bad yourself ), then they would go in RA again, but if they have a cooldown, they'd punish themselves
prism2525
Why not a sort of Dwayna's blessing that gives a temp +100HP to all remaining members if they get a leaver? Sure, if one is left alone 300HP more won't help that much but...
Yanman.be
Sure prism, Why not ruin Aotl builds because a teammember left?
( Aura Of the Lich = Halves hp, but also damage)
*edit* Nvm..that would boost it...
But still, 55'ers in RA would be pissed, Grenth's balance might be in balanced....
Now a speed boost would be better IMO ^^
( Aura Of the Lich = Halves hp, but also damage)
*edit* Nvm..that would boost it...
But still, 55'ers in RA would be pissed, Grenth's balance might be in balanced....
Now a speed boost would be better IMO ^^
prism2525
Whatever. Some sort of compensation for the 'loss' is what i'm saying. I've never seen a 55hp in RA though, don't think 55hp build have a chance in pvp where you don't know what u'll be facing. Immolate/Degen hexes would do short work of them.
Yanman.be
I've succesfully 55'ed in RA 
But yeah, compensation would work!
But yeah, compensation would work!
prism2525
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I've succesfully 55'ed in RA
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Leonof
It is called random arenas for a reason. It is full of random people and I already know not to expect too much out of them. If they leave, I don't care, I just move on to the next match. If I want to play with decent people, I just go to TA or some other place instead.
Best suggestion here though is the punishment. If you leave, then you should be prohibited to play for like 30mins (not too long). It wouldn't be too bad for people who actually had something to do, like a phone call or something. It would at least discourage leaving.
Best suggestion here though is the punishment. If you leave, then you should be prohibited to play for like 30mins (not too long). It wouldn't be too bad for people who actually had something to do, like a phone call or something. It would at least discourage leaving.
prism2525
One must also take into account if someone laggs out. That's not their fault.
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by prism2525
You MUST have had a way to change to a 'normal' build cos if you find a touch ranger you're history. And if you did b4 factions, you had hexes and other things to cope with. I presume you checked if they have no mesmers or maybe even casters, then turned 55. If not... enlighten me. ^^
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The chances are higher that you encounter a 4 war team without interrupts, degen ( except for bleeding ) , lockups, knockdowns or edenial, than you encounter enchantment removal...
With the new faction skill spirit bond, you can even bring 600 ..bye bye touch ranger
JR
If I get on a team with three complete idiots; I will leave. No question.
You want to impliment a system that stops me doing that, or punishes me for it?
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You want to impliment a system that stops me doing that, or punishes me for it?
/unsigned
master_of_puppets
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Players have the right to rage quit from things like RA. What if I get some PVE retard who is using a level 10 or something? Why should I waste my time with idiot mending wammos who cant even follow a friggin call and attack random targets?
I play to get the gladiator title not for no reason. If theres no chance of getting 10, then screw it.
Players have the right to rage quit from things like RA. What if I get some PVE retard who is using a level 10 or something? Why should I waste my time with idiot mending wammos who cant even follow a friggin call and attack random targets?
I play to get the gladiator title not for no reason. If theres no chance of getting 10, then screw it.
fiery
Um people can already leave right after a battle ends, the timer goes on and zone out.
kvndoom
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Originally Posted by prism2525
Whatever. Some sort of compensation for the 'loss' is what i'm saying. I've never seen a 55hp in RA though, don't think 55hp build have a chance in pvp where you don't know what u'll be facing. Immolate/Degen hexes would do short work of them.
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Mo/W (not 55) with Eviscerate
E/W using Backbreaker (ele's make a funny battle cry when they melee, by the way)
Level 14 rangers (sorry, I HAD to ragequit when I saw that)
Monks who bring 8 smiting skills and couldn't even heal themselves
a W/Mo with rez (yes, it really happened! I swear it did!)
And of course the run-of-the-mill Healing Hands warriors and paper-armor assassin tanks, 75% of whom can't be bothered to bring a rez, because heaven forbid they not have Healing Breeze on their skillbar.
Some people are running the game on dial-up or otherwise flaky internet connections, and they wind up getting disconnected. Not everyone leaves on purpose.
But the thing with RA is that it is, yes, random. You don't know who you're fighting with, or who you're fighting against. You might get the worst players on earth on your team (and there are MANY competing for that title), and you might get some of the best. I've been on teams so good that we went on to win 5 or more in TA after getting our gladiator points. I've been on teams so bad that we've gotten rolled in under a minute. If you want well-built teams who aren't going to leave or suck (at least not as badly), you have to migrate to TA, where you can pick and choose. RA is not the place to expect quality. Quality is there, but it's rare. When you get quality, make the most of it. One of the reasons I RA is because after wading through so much shit, it just feels SO damn good to find a real diamond of a team.
Nightwish
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Originally Posted by master_of_puppets
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Players have the right to rage quit from things like RA. What if I get some PVE retard who is using a level 10 or something? Why should I waste my time with idiot mending wammos who cant even follow a friggin call and attack random targets? I play to get the gladiator title not for no reason. If theres no chance of getting 10, then screw it. |
Aside from the lvl10+ situation, rage quitting is inconsiderate, who knows the team is actually having a win streak (someone disconnected) and you just ruin it for them.
So for those who want to quit a team that doesnt suit your taste, do so after the match. I have played with several such people, who only leaves after winning the match and I am grateful to their minor but yet considerate attitude.
CartmanPT
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Originally Posted by JR-
If I get on a team with three complete idiots; I will leave. No question.
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I never leave in RA, if the team is not good i stay until the end and deal with it, because its random.
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Originally Posted by master_of_puppets
I play to get the gladiator title not for no reason. If theres no chance of getting 10, then screw it.
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If you guys dont want to have bad teams go to TA with some friends.
prism2525
touchies steal life Yanman. you can have as many defenses as you like but that's not damage, so preventing skills are useless.
anonymous
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Im not going to sit around just because my last remaining team member didnt bring a cripple to use on that runner.
Im not going to sit around just because my last remaining team member didnt bring a cripple to use on that runner.
prism2525
I usually leave when I see there's no way back in the match. Like having a war without res left fighting 3 at a time while bleeding, crippled, poisoned and below 50% HP. That's when I leave, but leaving just because there a non-lvl20? He might play better than me and outlast me if he knows his stuff. I did feel an urge to quit when an idiot started using BiP like mad before the match even started, though, but resisted the temptation.
JR
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Originally Posted by CartmanPT
If there are 3 and you leave that makes 4.
I never leave in RA, if the team is not good i stay until the end and deal with it, because its random. |
To be honest, as someone who plays Monk mainly, it is fairly depressing to keep three people up when they can't get a single kill on the other team due to silly builds or just straight up idiotic play. I'd rather map out, have the game over sooner, and hopefully get a team worth putting the effort in for.
Why bother with a team who you know are going to fail. Maybe not that round, maybe not even the next, but the minute you hit a good team you are going to go down hard. I'm sorry but I would rather rejoin and hopefully get a team that at least has a shot at a few consecutive.
Is my attitude arrogant? Possibly. Do I really care? No.
Opeth11
I..I love your avatar, JR-.
As for the original suggestion, not a chance. Leave it as it is.
As for the original suggestion, not a chance. Leave it as it is.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by prism2525
I usually leave when I see there's no way back in the match. Like having a war without res left fighting 3 at a time while bleeding, crippled, poisoned and below 50% HP. That's when I leave
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mariano
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Originally Posted by Conquering Lion
You shouldn't be allowed to leave a game once you enter a game in the random arenas. Too many people leave the games if they are about to die, or get stuck with a team that probably won't do well. It's annoying, and messes up the gameplay. If a player gets on a good team and wants to leave, he should be given an option at the end of the match during the time when you're going into your next match. That way the team will be able to get another player, and if someone has to log off for real reasons, they can do so.
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Nevertheless, I would like there were more arenas similar to the Random Arenas, but with different degrees of randomness. Say, we have a Random Team Arenas, now, there might be a Teamed Random Arenas where you may choose a kind of team build but players are asigned randomly; these new arenas might be for 4, 6, or even 8 players. And, it would be great if the program were able to tell how many people is waiting for each type of fight, and which team slots are still empty, so that players may guess whether to stay or to change to another thing.
master_of_puppets
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Originally Posted by CartmanPT
And the other people must play with one element less just because you just want a tittle to go to towns telling "Im so 1337"..... GG
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Originally Posted by mariano
Nevertheless, I would like there were more arenas similar to the Random Arenas, but with different degrees of randomness. Say, we have a Random Team Arenas, now, there might be a Teamed Random Arenas where you may choose a kind of team build but players are asigned randomly; these new arenas might be for 4, 6, or even 8 players. And, it would be great if the program were able to tell how many people is waiting for each type of fight, and which team slots are still empty, so that players may guess whether to stay or to change to another thing.
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TadaceAce
I used to play RA before touch rangers... I liked to play a ds prot monk (for those of us who know what that is), it basically didn't die except the 1/100 chance you fight a team with the correct builds to overpower it. Why would I stay and heal a team of 2 mending paladins and a R/Mo with a longbow. Its obvious that team can't kill a team with any type of healing, why waste your time? If your getting a lot of leavers, you probably deserve it or somebody else in your group deserve it.
Mending: Instantly banish two of your group members to the random arena wammo flame.
Mending: Instantly banish two of your group members to the random arena wammo flame.
Loki of Mischief
i love the idea of prevnting people from leaving during the middle of a random arean match. you have about 30 seconds to wait. ya a lot can happen in 30 seconds but then what is the /resign command for then? i think if you type /resign in random arean you should posable count as leaving. but even then it is still not right to the ppl that are trying to play the game. perhaps there should be a way to penalize ppl who do leave durring a match. and im not talking like a slap on the wrist. im thinking more along the lines of loseing 1,000 faction. and yes if you have less then 1,000 faction if will go into the negatives. and no err 7 should not be an exchuse. ya i know it would suck if it happened to me be but im really tired of having ppl leave even befor the match started. and having really dumb ppl in your group isn't fun either but its random arean.
if you dont want the chance of getting them in your group go to team arena.
but having ppl leave in a match is one of, well its really the ONLY reason i hate playing in random arena.
if you dont want the chance of getting them in your group go to team arena.
but having ppl leave in a match is one of, well its really the ONLY reason i hate playing in random arena.
Faer
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3095214#post3095214
Locking this thread, and all the other "Fix Leavers" threads in Sardelac, for the time being. When the new system is revealed, we'll look at it, look at these threads, and see if they need reopened or not. Until then, let's all be patient and see what we get.
Locking this thread, and all the other "Fix Leavers" threads in Sardelac, for the time being. When the new system is revealed, we'll look at it, look at these threads, and see if they need reopened or not. Until then, let's all be patient and see what we get.