What does controlling an outpost give to your guild?

Maladjusted

Maladjusted

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

My guild recently got enough Faction to control one of the Kurzick towns. I go in and enter the exclusive area through the gatekeeper and access the merchant.
All I get is slightly cheaper prices for generic items. For example a kurzick key costs 480 in the exclusive area instead of 600 (so...a 20% discount?)

Is that it? A cheaper merchant?
I know some places have fireworks masters but this town doesn't seem to have one or, as a regular member I don't have access to that feature. I thought if you owned a town you were able to access a crafter that could make you some nice items or you were able to enter a minor elite mission. is it because the lowest level towns have next to no advantage to control?

What exactly are the advantages of owning a town? Is there an FAQ somewhere I can read or is it as pathetic as just a cheaper merchant?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Your only advantage is the Discounted Merchant in minor towns, and the ability to do the fireworks.

The only towns with Elite Missions are Cavalon and House.

No Crafter, or special items.

Maladjusted

Maladjusted

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

If that is the case, why bother Faction Farming when the reward is so small? A 20% discount is hardly enough motivation and I doubt many people care exactly who owns an outpost. They don't even have your guild's flags hung around the town, do they?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

In other words, there's no point unless you really want to save that gold on salvage kits or look at pretty lights.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Don't forget fame amongst your peers!

"Ooh, xxx owns this place, they must be powerful!"

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
Don't forget fame amongst your peers!

"Ooh, xxx owns this place, they must be powerful!"
Or maybe...

"Ooh, xxx owns this place, they must faction farm 24/7 and have no life."

Look, owning a town is a neat perk, but don't expect much respect from the community, since it really has become just a faction farming contest.

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

1. Buy a shit load of keys from the merchant.
2. Sell them to people for 500g each.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!

Maladjusted

Maladjusted

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

I want to help my guild by donating faction but if the reward is just the merchants then I'm better off trading faction for amber and giving 120 gold to those guildies that pay 600G for a Kurzick key so they're still effectively getting a discount.

I also agree owning outposts says more about farming ability than skill. Wasn't this game supposed to be farm free? That must have been long forgotten.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
Or maybe...

"Ooh, xxx owns this place, they must faction farm 24/7 and have no life."

Look, owning a town is a neat perk, but don't expect much respect from the community, since it really has become just a faction farming contest.
Why does everything in this game have to be negative?

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Fine, invite me in the guild and I'll buy out all the keys that merchant has so he'll have no other choice but to force to own another outpost.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

LoL.

... No!! Faction Farming is pointless and worthless. There is no benefit to owning an outpost. As it is now, no guild or alliance should be worring about faction. The reward is HEAVILY outweighed by the amount of work required. Its like a respective 1 to 1 million balance. CMooon.

Plushie Penguin

Plushie Penguin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

That plushie penguin on a shelf in your bed room

Rt/E

doesn't the guild that owns the place get some of the gold spent in the town?
I think I read that a while back...

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by PLushie Penguin
doesn't the guild that owns the place get some of the gold spent in the town?
I think I read that a while back...
No. you dont.

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
1. Buy a shit load of keys from the merchant.
2. Sell them to people for 500g each.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Underpants gnomes got lost here too!
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit!

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
Underpants gnomes got lost here too!
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: Profit!
I loved that episode.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
Why does everything in this game have to be negative?
Look, if the achievement was something accomplished by actual combat finesse, people would respect that. Faction farming just requires knowing how to do one really easy PvE mission... a lot. If you want to play Guild Wars to be really good at doing the same thing over and over again, then have a blast. Just don't expect a whole lot of respect for it, because running a box from point A to point B through some easy spawns does not constitute being "powerful" to most people.

heavyduty

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Farming faction via alliance battles or faming fame via HoH. Pretty much any worthwhile title or accomplishment in the game is a grind/farming. I just sense a lot of haters on this thread.

Pompeyfan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Isle of Wight

DVDF

R/

What does controlling an outpost give to your guild?

Bugger all worth having unless you control one of the two major towns with the elite missions - and they have limited appeal.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

Who doesn't love only spending 480 gold on Kurzick or Luxon keys though?!

If you want to open 500 chests, buying the keys at the discounted price will save you 60 platinum pieces.

For the keys damnit, the keys!!!!!!!

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyduty
Farming faction via alliance battles or faming fame via HoH. Pretty much any worthwhile title or accomplishment in the game is a grind/farming. I just sense a lot of haters on this thread.
I hate HoH.

<-- hater

Anyways, the good news for the faction-related stuff is that with the massive increase in reward for the alliance battles and competitive missions, we should see that start to play a bigger role in faction gain, meaning control of a town would be something respectable.

Kyle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Legends Of Teh Industry [XXX]

i basicly put it this way. if your not controlling cavalon or hzh. its not worth it. but only for the keys

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
1. Buy a shit load of keys from the merchant.
2. Sell them to people for 500g each.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caleb The Pontiff
Who doesn't love only spending 480 gold on Kurzick or Luxon keys though?!

If you want to open 500 chests, buying the keys at the discounted price will save you 60 platinum pieces.

For the keys damnit, the keys!!!!!!!
I buy way too many keys...and need to save...

but seriously you get some ingame recognition of your guild, discounts that make achieving your treasure & wisdom title easier, fireworks, and the ability to ferry ppl to elite missions if you own HzH or Cavalon so your name is also recognized.

I Might Avenge U

I Might Avenge U

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

R/

uhh wouldn't it be more effective to buy like 10 billion sup salvage kits at a 400 gld discount and resell at 1.8k and make lots of money..w/e thats my opoioion