Okay everone is stocking up on diamonds and sapphires and secture, seing they might have a use in next chapter but I think they need to make other uses for having jade and amber, otherwise they will just drop out of the picture.
Maybe making it needed for future armour sets or crafting wepons?
All you can do is purchase armour and thats as far as they go.
What do you guys think, more uses for jade and amber, only being able to craft Armour runs thin after awhile and it means theres no real reason to having amber or jade.
Or maybe just more rewards, at reward npc.
EDIT, I dont want fow armour it is ugly and outdated, the elite luxon 15k stuff looks much be
tter its strange people pay so much for fow armour, for the chance to look ugly and pixelated.
Price is now settled, rather figure out what to do with the reward system, or like stated do something more with jade and amber.
Jade and amber droping in price.
markus_thom
Esprit
No thanks, the update allows us to gain faction faster in certain places, and that makes getting armor more realistic.
Plus, you don't need to get jade and amber with your faction, you can help out your guild and give it to them.
Plus, you don't need to get jade and amber with your faction, you can help out your guild and give it to them.
Big_Iron
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Witchblade
stupid idea ..
it makes armor cheaper, leave as it is ...
j/a at 100g a piece ftw 
it makes armor cheaper, leave as it is ...
Lady Kalvam
I don't really understand why the GW Community allways complains about things being too cheap and then on the other hand constantly bitches about having to grind to get something.
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No, just leave the system alone. Why should A-Net do anything to keep the prices up? And honestly, the new faction gain in the two competitive missions is not a factor towards the cheapness of amber and jade anyways. Duelfarming or Supply Runs are STILL a LOT faster.
The true reason behind the drop in price is simply that the new armors have lost their "freshness" factor. A lot of people allready have bought their version, many don't like them at all, that leaves just a few people really going for the armor.
Or to give another example, should we artificially make mesmer items (Runes, weapons, armors) a lot more expensive? No, of course not. There just is no demand for mesmer items as is with Amber and Jadeite anymore.
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No, just leave the system alone. Why should A-Net do anything to keep the prices up? And honestly, the new faction gain in the two competitive missions is not a factor towards the cheapness of amber and jade anyways. Duelfarming or Supply Runs are STILL a LOT faster.
The true reason behind the drop in price is simply that the new armors have lost their "freshness" factor. A lot of people allready have bought their version, many don't like them at all, that leaves just a few people really going for the armor.
Or to give another example, should we artificially make mesmer items (Runes, weapons, armors) a lot more expensive? No, of course not. There just is no demand for mesmer items as is with Amber and Jadeite anymore.
Witchblade
he's just probably wondering what to do with those useless faction points
dunno either.. but definitely NOT cash
dunno either.. but definitely NOT cash
Orbberius
Having spent 300k+ getting Kurzick 15k monk armor, I'll appreciate the lower cost when I get 15k Luxon for my ranger.
flankthetank
wish i waited to get my 15k kurzick armor for my warrior 
coulda saved alot of money
coulda saved alot of money
Shoitaan
Prices dropping because less people are buying the faction armours now? (on account of them already having bought their armour)
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EternalTempest
Actually price's are dropping due to the increase in Faction Rewards in Alliance (12vs12) battles.
I love alliance battles due to how quick it is to earn faction to turn in to Jadite -> Convert to gold to fund my character armor upgrades & skill purchase's for C1 characters.
It's now about
1 win (15-20 min) nets you 1254 faction
1 lose (and your side is comptive) 400-700 factuion easily
1 horrible lose 200-300 faction
1-2 Hours can net me 1k to 5k depending easily in Allaince battles now.
I know this is driving down the price but I don't mind. Alliance battles are a fun diversion when I get bored, and have helped me improve my build(s) greatly.
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I love alliance battles due to how quick it is to earn faction to turn in to Jadite -> Convert to gold to fund my character armor upgrades & skill purchase's for C1 characters.
It's now about
1 win (15-20 min) nets you 1254 faction
1 lose (and your side is comptive) 400-700 factuion easily
1 horrible lose 200-300 faction
1-2 Hours can net me 1k to 5k depending easily in Allaince battles now.
I know this is driving down the price but I don't mind. Alliance battles are a fun diversion when I get bored, and have helped me improve my build(s) greatly.
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jimmy_logic
What is it with ???? dropping in price threads these days?
Don't really gives a hoot what price they are... PvP is fun already!!
Don't really gives a hoot what price they are... PvP is fun already!!
Navaros
The price drops are total crap in my view.
Today the trader was only paying 750g for my Jade, which of course I didn't sell however there are many people dumb enough to sell to the trader for that price which ultimately will make Jade become worthless in a month or two.
What they need to do is set a minimum price for Jade and Amber that the trader will always pay for it at least. That price should be 1k.
Tombs is dead because the devs never bothered to fix the fact that Sigils sell for 10k -20k max or less. There was no longer any worthwhile reward for playing in Tombs, so people stopped playing in Tombs.
Alliance Battles are eventually going to be similarly dead if the devs let the problem of ever-lowering price of Jade and Amber stagnate forever.
Price fix it to 1k at least and everyone stays happy.
Today the trader was only paying 750g for my Jade, which of course I didn't sell however there are many people dumb enough to sell to the trader for that price which ultimately will make Jade become worthless in a month or two.
What they need to do is set a minimum price for Jade and Amber that the trader will always pay for it at least. That price should be 1k.
Tombs is dead because the devs never bothered to fix the fact that Sigils sell for 10k -20k max or less. There was no longer any worthwhile reward for playing in Tombs, so people stopped playing in Tombs.
Alliance Battles are eventually going to be similarly dead if the devs let the problem of ever-lowering price of Jade and Amber stagnate forever.
Price fix it to 1k at least and everyone stays happy.
EternalTempest
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The price drops are total crap in my view.
Today the trader was only paying 750g for my Jade, which of course I didn't sell however there are many people dumb enough to sell to the trader for that price which ultimately will make Jade become worthless in a month or two. What they need to do is set a minimum price for Jade and Amber that the trader will always pay for it at least. That price should be 1k. Tombs is dead because the devs never bothered to fix the fact that Sigils sell for 10k -20k max or less. There was no longer any worthwhile reward for playing in Tombs, so people stopped playing in Tombs. Alliance Battles are eventually going to be similarly dead if the devs let the problem of ever-lowering price of Jade and Amber stagnate forever. Price fix it to 1k at least and everyone stays happy. |
Anet wanted Sigils to drop in price so it was easier for a guild to get a guild hall and start doing GvG.
It would be nice if they made a low end "cap" with the rare material trader but in articles they mentioned the traders are to facilitate trade, not control economy (that's why they can run out too).
Not everyone is doing allinace for the greed factor, I'm doing it for money and fun and did not flinch at all when it dropped from 1k to 800 gold lux.
Orbberius
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Tombs is dead because the devs never bothered to fix the fact that Sigils sell for 10k -20k max or less. There was no longer any worthwhile reward for playing in Tombs, so people stopped playing in Tombs.
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Navaros
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Originally Posted by EternalTempest
Anet wanted Sigils to drop in price so it was easier for a guild to get a guild hall and start doing GvG.
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It's not about "greed", it's about "making a buck". Finally the devs implemented a system where one could accumulate a lot of money (ie: which Fissure armor would require hence "greed" cannot be considered a factor) in a fair & reasonable amount of time, without having to farm or engage in hardcore trade spam. Yet without the devs' intervention in keeping the rewards fair and reasonable then that system will soon become useless just like winning sigils has become useless.
crimsonfilms
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Tombs is dead because the devs never bothered to fix the fact that Sigils sell for 10k -20k max or less. There was no longer any worthwhile reward for playing in Tombs, so people stopped playing in Tombs.
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Tombs "died" because it is Tombs. It is the same maps. The same mechanics. FoTM metagame. The same of everything. Tombs players don't care about the price of Sigils or the rate of Ecto drop in FoW/UW or the price of Steel Ingot.
Basically, PvE issues don't matter as much as you think to your typical PvPer. They care about new maps, new mechanics, rate of PvP rewards, ranking/ladder system, bug fixes, balance issues, etc.
Navaros
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Wow - you really think Tombs died because of Sigils? You could not be more mistaken.
Tombs "died" because it is Tombs. It is the same maps. The same mechanics. FoTM metagame. The same of everything. Tombs players don't care about the price of Sigils or the rate of Ecto drop in FoW/UW or the price of Steel Ingot. Basically, PvE issues don't matter as much as you think to your typical PvPer. They care about new maps, new mechanics, rate of PvP rewards, ranking/ladder system, bug fixes, balance issues, etc. |
Betcha if the devs let you earn Lux/Kurz faction in Tombs and/or let you sell Balt faction, and/or fixed Sigil prices, then the Tombs population would vastly increase instantly.
Elrodien
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Wow - you really think Tombs died because of Sigils? You could not be more mistaken.
Tombs "died" because it is Tombs. It is the same maps. The same mechanics. FoTM metagame. The same of everything. Tombs players don't care about the price of Sigils or the rate of Ecto drop in FoW/UW or the price of Steel Ingot. Basically, PvE issues don't matter as much as you think to your typical PvPer. They care about new maps, new mechanics, rate of PvP rewards, ranking/ladder system, bug fixes, balance issues, etc. |
As for the drop in price of Jade/Amber - who cares? I like to spend my time playing the game not hanging around outposts trying to sell things to people.
Zephyr Jackson
They are dropping in price and it is reasonable that it is, the "newness" of the jade/amber wore off so it isnt in that high of demand, people will stop farming faction and the price will eventually go up in price some of the faction farmers will come back to it, most wont.
I think we will find a happy Medium @~1k
Spending 65k on 1.5k Armor is just absurd
I think we will find a happy Medium @~1k
Spending 65k on 1.5k Armor is just absurd
Bane of Worlds
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wish i waited to get my 15k kurzick armor for my warrior
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anyway just leave it alone
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Arknow
obviously the people who complain about prices have never played a MMORPG, nothing and i mean -NOTHING- ever stays the same, prices go up and down get used to it or go back to starcraft
MSecorsky
All the damned amber and jade I've sold to the merchants, about time the prices came down.
What I'd really like to see is a means to sell more than one unit at a time to the rare material trader though. Even blocks of five would save time.
What I'd really like to see is a means to sell more than one unit at a time to the rare material trader though. Even blocks of five would save time.
Cash
the 15k tag on the armor itself is high enough for my tastes. having bought 15k kurz and lux warrior (sentinal set), 15k kurz mes, and 15k kurz rit (including extra pieces to run different builds), thats 420k right there NOT including amber and other materials needed. amber was 2k when i got the warrior and mesmer, so as you can imagine i was happy to see it at 1k when i got the rit armor.
if you just want the highest AL, buy 1.5k non kurz/lux, if you want "leet" buy FoW. as for me, i just think the 15k kurz (and some lux) look tons better than anything out there, and id be just as happy with amber/jade selling for 50 gold.
if you just want the highest AL, buy 1.5k non kurz/lux, if you want "leet" buy FoW. as for me, i just think the 15k kurz (and some lux) look tons better than anything out there, and id be just as happy with amber/jade selling for 50 gold.
Sir Skullcrasher
Currently, i have 10 amber in stock on my account and it all thanks to doing random quests and missions for faction points.
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I like the price being this cheap so that if i need to get the armors, i could simply buy the ambers or jades without spend countless hours farming for it.
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I like the price being this cheap so that if i need to get the armors, i could simply buy the ambers or jades without spend countless hours farming for it.
Yawgmoth
The 15k kurzick and luxon armors are losing their elite status (or semi-elite) and are becoming just as common as any 15k armors ingame. About 6 weeks ago a 15k kurzick armor costed almost 1/2 of a FoW armor to make (300k+ while at that time ectos were under 5k)
Neither Jade nor Amber aren't any good for holding them for value as they will keep going down. We can only predict how low will they stop.
As of now there are no real elite armors except fissure, and even those are very common nowadays. I miss the times when only very few could afford them.
Neither Jade nor Amber aren't any good for holding them for value as they will keep going down. We can only predict how low will they stop.
As of now there are no real elite armors except fissure, and even those are very common nowadays. I miss the times when only very few could afford them.
noblepaladin
Amber and Jade prices are dropping because they are not really that difficult to obtain. Also, from what I read in some of the forums, some guild and alliance players have given up farming faction for the guild because there are ferries to elite missions and they realized that owning a town and having the 20% discount is actually un-economic. It takes millions of faction to own a town, and simply getting amber/jade and selling it is a lot more profitable. Actually, normal farming is alot more profitable. Besides, faction farming is incredibly boring, I just did the same run over and over again to get my 15K armor back when amber was 2.5K. Was the most boring crap ever, I actually ended up buying half the amber at 2.5K a piece just to get it over with and go farming normal monsters for wealth at a lesser rate.
AnnaCloud9
Just a hunch, but since the NPCs we trade our faction to for Jade/Amber are [Faction Rewards] NPCs, plural Reward, I'm guessing the Devs planned well ahead and left these NPCs wide open for many other faction trade items in the future. It could also be another reason they capped either faction at 10,000 points, to eliminate faction point hoarders in the event they do offer some new items for trade (yes, I know, there's literal reasons now as to a 10,000 cap, but this is good planning for future uses).
Just my 2 cents worth
Just my 2 cents worth
Alleji
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Betcha if the devs let you earn Lux/Kurz faction in Tombs and/or let you sell Balt faction, and/or fixed Sigil prices, then the Tombs population would vastly increase instantly.
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Although sell balth faction = good. Even if option would only be enabled after you unlocked everything. There's gotta be something you can do with it and not just sit at 10k until the new skills come out.
markus_thom
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Originally Posted by Lady Kalvam
I don't really understand why the GW Community allways complains about things being too cheap and then on the other hand constantly bitches about having to grind to get something.
/Not signed. No, just leave the system alone. Why should A-Net do anything to keep the prices up? And honestly, the new faction gain in the two competitive missions is not a factor towards the cheapness of amber and jade anyways. Duelfarming or Supply Runs are STILL a LOT faster. The true reason behind the drop in price is simply that the new armors have lost their "freshness" factor. A lot of people allready have bought their version, many don't like them at all, that leaves just a few people really going for the armor. Or to give another example, should we artificially make mesmer items (Runes, weapons, armors) a lot more expensive? No, of course not. There just is no demand for mesmer items as is with Amber and Jadeite anymore. |
Like some one mentioned it seems like a waste of a reward. Though it being cheap is proberly cool lol.
Don Zardeone
I'd like to see more uses for amber and jade.
Like euh.. dunno
lets build a fort or something
Like euh.. dunno
lets build a fort or something
jimmy_logic
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I'd like to see more uses for amber and jade.
Like euh.. dunno lets build a fort or something |
tenorplayer
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its strange people pay so much for fow armour, for the chance to look ugly and pixelated.
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And about the Jade/Amber- it's GOING to drop. Supply runners are putting massive amounts into the economy, whereas the initial demand is going down. Many people definitely foresaw this.