I have heard great things about Bunny Thumpers. Was wondering if anyone could give me a specific build.
Thanks
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Bunny Thumper
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BerryRacer
Here are 3 versions of the Thumper, I would say the standard is the top one, but really its all personal perference.
Beast 10+1+1=12(Sup not really needed here)
Expertise 8+1=9
Hammer=12
Ferocious Strike
Irresistible Blow
Hammer bash
Crushing Blow
Tigers fury
Res sig
Charm
Comfort
Beast=10+3+1=14
Expertise=8+1
Hammer 12
Ferocious Strike
Irresistible Blow
Hammer Bash
Distrupting Lunge
Tigers Fury
Res Sig
Charm
Comfort
10+3+1=14 Beastmastery
8+1=9 expertise
12 Hammer
Enraged Lunge
Irresistible Blow
Hammer bash
Tigers Fury
Res Sig
Charm Animal
Call of Haste
Comfort
And ofcourse Sentry's Vest and pants with druids glooves and boots is probably your best choice of armor. If you have a Pve Ranger check out this thread for creating a dire for that extra 15% more damage, http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89491
With my thumper i usually run a vamp and switch to zealous as i run the third build, which is most pet centred, and i think the best exept when targeting someone with PS. Otherwise, probably go with first one as its the best pressure i find, with finishing off small spike from DW.
Anyway good luck.
Beast 10+1+1=12(Sup not really needed here)
Expertise 8+1=9
Hammer=12
Ferocious Strike
Irresistible Blow
Hammer bash
Crushing Blow
Tigers fury
Res sig
Charm
Comfort
Beast=10+3+1=14
Expertise=8+1
Hammer 12
Ferocious Strike
Irresistible Blow
Hammer Bash
Distrupting Lunge
Tigers Fury
Res Sig
Charm
Comfort
10+3+1=14 Beastmastery
8+1=9 expertise
12 Hammer
Enraged Lunge
Irresistible Blow
Hammer bash
Tigers Fury
Res Sig
Charm Animal
Call of Haste
Comfort
And ofcourse Sentry's Vest and pants with druids glooves and boots is probably your best choice of armor. If you have a Pve Ranger check out this thread for creating a dire for that extra 15% more damage, http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=89491
With my thumper i usually run a vamp and switch to zealous as i run the third build, which is most pet centred, and i think the best exept when targeting someone with PS. Otherwise, probably go with first one as its the best pressure i find, with finishing off small spike from DW.
Anyway good luck.
EmPoReR oF mElAnDrU
Is there a sub-in for the elite pet skills?
Ruby Lightheart
i been running a modified version of the Bunny Thumper ...build dont have a name yet though
1. Favorable Winds
2. Tiger's Fury (or whiling defense)
3. Barrage
4. Savage Shot
5. Comfort Animal
6. Brutal Strike
7. Charm Animal
8. Ressurect (or rez signet)
Im still tinkering with the attributes on it but i have marksman at 15, Beastmasery at 12 and the rest in expertise
Sometimes i take off Brutal STrike and replace it with Preaditory Season
1. Favorable Winds
2. Tiger's Fury (or whiling defense)
3. Barrage
4. Savage Shot
5. Comfort Animal
6. Brutal Strike
7. Charm Animal
8. Ressurect (or rez signet)
Im still tinkering with the attributes on it but i have marksman at 15, Beastmasery at 12 and the rest in expertise
Sometimes i take off Brutal STrike and replace it with Preaditory Season
Reikai
modified version of the bunny thumper -_-?!?!?! what!??! its like totally eaten alive and spit out again. That is no where NEAR what a bunny thumper is -_- You don't even have teh hammar!
Railz
the whole point of using a hammer ranger is for the expertise, high expertise resulting in hammer skills costing 1 energy to use
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JR's Bunny Thumper team iQ forumsQuote:
Ranger/Warrior
Level: 20
Expertise: 14 (10+4)
Beast Mastery: 9 (8+1)
Hammer Mastery: 12
- Resurrection Signet ()
- Tiger's Fury (Beast Mastery)
- Devastating Hammer [Elite] (Hammer Mastery)
- Crushing Blow (Hammer Mastery)
- Hammer Bash (Hammer Mastery)
- Irresistible Blow (Hammer Mastery)
- Whirling Defense (Expertise)
- Dodge (Expertise)
Fairly nasty hammer build. With high expertise you can spam Irresistible and Crushing all day without breaking a sweat.
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Ummm.. Ill have you know I play PVP a ton.. this includes HA and GVG.
I think you are either mis informed or do not play serious PVP at all.... frankly a thumper WITHOUT a pet is no where near 10 times better than one with.
Maybe you don't understand the concept of a thumper build so Ill explain it. You use Ferous strike to gain energy and adrienline to fuel your hammer attacks so you never run out of energy. Even with high expertise, eventually in a long fight you will still run out. Thats the issue.
Im not saying the build you posted was bad because it certainly is not... its a great build to run. However, thumper, it is not.
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Dimitry's Ranger/Warrior team iQ forums Level: 20 Expertise: 14 (10+4) Beast Mastery: 9 (8+1) Hammer Mastery: 12 - Irresistible Blow (Hammer Mastery) - Hammer Bash (Hammer Mastery) - Distracting Blow (Warrior other) - Tiger's Fury (Beast Mastery) - Crushing Blow (Hammer Mastery) - Wild Blow (Warrior other) - Escape [Elite] (Expertise) - Resurrection Signet ()
Valkyries
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Originally Posted by Railz
Ranger/Warrior Level: 20 Expertise: 14 (10+4) Beast Mastery: 9 (8+1) Hammer Mastery: 12 - Resurrection Signet () - Tiger's Fury (Beast Mastery) - Devastating Hammer [Elite] (Hammer Mastery) - Crushing Blow (Hammer Mastery) - Hammer Bash (Hammer Mastery) - Irresistible Blow (Hammer Mastery) - Whirling Defense (Expertise) - Dodge (Expertise) |
Ummm... where exactly is the bunny?
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Beast 10+1+1=12(Sup not really needed here) Expertise 8+1=9 Hammer=12 Ferocious Strike Irresistible Blow Hammer bash Crushing Blow Tigers fury Res sig Charm Comfort Good build right here and probably the best you'll see to be honest.
ubermancer
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Originally Posted by Valkyries
Good build right here and probably the best you'll see to be honest.
No way. Enraged Lunge is PIMP. 100+ damage every 5 seconds? I think so.
Railz
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Originally Posted by Valkyries
thumper builds use the pet to do a high amount of damage while you spam hammer attacks with very high expertise....
you dont need a pet for a bunny thumper
 people use the pet for energy from Ferocious Strike its not a "must have" especially when your skills are only costing u 1 energy, We always ran bunny thumpers in Tag yes we used the pet but we used it for energy nothing else, And we got to the gwwc playoffs, now most people only use a pet if they have a smiter to smite of it or as i said low expertise to get energy.but if your so desperate to have a pet 12 Hammers 8+1 Beast Mastery 10+4 Expertise Skills: Tiger's Fury Ferocious Strike ( better then enraged for thumper but enraged owns for a beast master) Hammer bash Crushing Blow Irr. Blow Melandru's Assault (massive damage on characters running enchants, pretty decent everything else). can be switched for self heal Charm Animal Res Signet
Juicey Shake
enraged bunny thumpers are <3, esp. silas' build based around 'em..
oyk lightning reflex thumpers are sexier, tho, no 100+ damage every 5s and no corpse, tho, good for non corpse exploit build.. otherwise enraged > * TF/comf/charm +66 dmg, yumyum.
remmeh
Enraged is good and all with charm+comfort+TF being "batteries" for it, but i still prefer Ferocious because of the adrenaline gain... you can KD more often.
Cyan The Archer
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Originally Posted by Railz
you dont need a pet for a bunny thumper
people use the pet for energy from Ferocious Strike its not a "must have" especially when your skills are only costing u 1 energy, We always ran bunny thumpers in Tag yes we used the pet but we used it for energy nothing else, And we got to the gwwc playoffs, now most people only use a pet if they have a smiter to smite of it or as i said low expertise to get energy.I always play a Bow ranger, i just never use a bow because i think Touches are way better. And it's not a "must have" to have a bow with a bow ranger, even when it sound like it. Get it? Bunny Thumpers use PETS, it's not called a Bunny Thumper unless you have a pet! And if you only have 1 hammer skill, then it's not called a Bunny Thumper but a Beast Master w/ Hammer.
Ruby Lightheart
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Originally Posted by Reikai
modified version of the bunny thumper -_-?!?!?! what!??! its like totally eaten alive and spit out again. That is no where NEAR what a bunny thumper is -_- You don't even have teh hammar!
dude i said it was modified and still a work in progress AND didnt even have a name yet
/sighs Modified means its an alteration of an original concept..therefore will not contain the same elements. I wont bother you with statitics now...just will say my pet and I are ALWAYS the last to die in co-op missions with this testing build
Cyan The Archer
Ruby, i have to agree with Reikai, the build was nowhere near a Thumper. And why do you say you are ALWAYS the last to die? That have nothing to do with a Thumper! A Thumper usually have next to no self heal..
Sha Noran
Lol, Ruby I hate to be mean, but I really thought your post was a joke. You aren't even using a hammer man. :-P
My personal preferance is to use no pet at all, as its not the pet giving you energy... its your Expertise that's keeping your energy up. I used to run with Backbreaker, but now I use Shove, which is pretty much perfect for a Thumper; a unconditional knockdown skill that uses Energy rather than Adrenaline. I run something like... -Distracting Blow -Irresistable Blow -Shove {E} -Crushing Blow -Tiger's Fury -Healing Signet -Run As One -Rez Sig You don't need a pet for e-management because you simply aren't spending all of your energy on anything. Railz
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Originally Posted by Sha Noran
Lol, Ruby I hate to be mean, but I really thought your post was a joke. You aren't even using a hammer man. :-P
My personal preferance is to use no pet at all, as its not the pet giving you energy... its your Expertise that's keeping your energy up. I used to run with Backbreaker, but now I use Shove, which is pretty much perfect for a Thumper; a unconditional knockdown skill that uses Energy rather than Adrenaline. I run something like... -Distracting Blow -Irresistable Blow -Shove {E} -Crushing Blow -Tiger's Fury -Healing Signet -Run As One -Rez Sig You don't need a pet for e-management because you simply aren't spending all of your energy on anything. thank gods someone with a sense of the pvp metagame, as i said before bunny thumper doesnt need a pet , people who run pets dont use the high expertise most of the time thats why they use ferocious strike to get energy back, as well as a bit of dmg, but in all honesty a thumper with out a pet is 10 times better
Reikai
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Originally Posted by Sha Noran
Lol, Ruby I hate to be mean, but I really thought your post was a joke. You aren't even using a hammer man. :-P
My personal preferance is to use no pet at all, as its not the pet giving you energy... its your Expertise that's keeping your energy up. I used to run with Backbreaker, but now I use Shove, which is pretty much perfect for a Thumper; a unconditional knockdown skill that uses Energy rather than Adrenaline. I run something like... -Distracting Blow -Irresistable Blow -Shove {E} -Crushing Blow -Tiger's Fury -Healing Signet -Run As One -Rez Sig You don't need a pet for e-management because you simply aren't spending all of your energy on anything. run... as... one? you need a pet for it to take effect you know... 2ndName
Question about a Bunny Thumper, can this build be used for PvE or is this something for PvP only?
Hidden in the Mist
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Run as One
For 5..13 seconds, you and your pet run 25% faster. No need for pet.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by Railz
thank gods someone with a sense of the pvp metagame, as i said before bunny thumper doesnt need a pet , people who run pets dont use the high expertise most of the time thats why they use ferocious strike to get energy back, as well as a bit of dmg, but in all honesty a thumper with out a pet is 10 times better
...-_- Ten times better?
Extra free damage shoved at your face. Albeit not much.  I use a pet only because I already have Tiger's Fury, and I have free skillslots. That's only when I run a bunny thumper. I rarely do.
Valkyries
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Originally Posted by Railz
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I think you are either mis informed or do not play serious PVP at all.... frankly a thumper WITHOUT a pet is no where near 10 times better than one with.
Maybe you don't understand the concept of a thumper build so Ill explain it. You use Ferous strike to gain energy and adrienline to fuel your hammer attacks so you never run out of energy. Even with high expertise, eventually in a long fight you will still run out. Thats the issue.
Im not saying the build you posted was bad because it certainly is not... its a great build to run. However, thumper, it is not.
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No way. Enraged Lunge is PIMP. 100+ damage every 5 seconds? I think so.
Yes enraged is an awesome skill... the problem is the same thing though. You can't get your energy and adrienline refueled so quickly. So whilie this is a very viable option, its not as consistant IMO. I do agree though, I occassionally run this too for fun and as a change of pace and indeed it is "pimp" as you so put it
Frantic-Sheep
Personally I think 'thumpers' are made because of the 'thumping of the hammer' with low energy cost due expertise
 not the thumping of the pet..  at least thats my view. Call it what you want, on the end its all a R/W with a hammer. Some version I once played with and liked: *cant remember the exact attributes* Something like 10+3+1 expertise 12 hammer 6+1 beast mastery 6+1 Wilderniss - Tigers Fury - Devestating Hammer - Crushing Blow - Heavy Blow - Irresistible Blow - Apply Poison - Troll Urgent - Res Sig (It was funny poisoning everyone around and unleash the combo from time to time)
Valkyries
thumping is using the hammer, its the "bunny" part that has to do with the pet
draconis228
id like to say that Frantic-Sheep has a fun one that works, i just tweaked it to my liking some
Fay Vert
The thumper is the hammer, the bunny is the bunny hop animation when you thump. The pet is along for E management and damage add.
afaik, you can't cap a bunny as a pet (though I'd dearly love to)
Sir Mad
[quote=Reikai]run... as... one? you need a pet for it to take effect you know...{/quote]
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
(...) Quote: No need for pet.
True, that's the difference withHeal as One. However, why Runas One over Dodge since the main point of having ranger as a primary is expertise and dodge = 33% faster vs 25% for Run as One AND you avoid arrows.
And again, for all those thinking having a pet is the key: in none of the build I've seen more than 12 points used in BM. No, again the main point is expertise. Otherwise, just make a warrior, you'll have a better armor... You can have a pet, but heck that's not the key of the build.
pork soldier
apply poison thumper is ftw, just watch high end gvg and you'll see why ^^
Sha Noran
Yes, Dodge/Zojun's Haste are also viable options for your sprint slot. No pet needed for Run As One, as stated.
Ferocious is shit for Adrenaline... 1 Ferocious=2-3 Adrenal, as far as I can tell... not worth your Elite slot when now you can run something like Shove and not really need Adrenal at all. Expertise is the key. ump
Ferocious Strike is nice because you gain more energy then you spend (I prefer 9 expertise, 12 hammer, 14 beast mastery with Ferocious Strike so you spend 3 to gain 10 and net 7 energy), your pet does extra damage (+27), and you gain adrenaline (1) every 8 seconds. You need adrenaline for Hammer Bash. More adrenaline means you can knockdown more often. More energy means more spamming (especially Irresistible Blow).
Solvi
Unless someone can tell me who originated the term "Bunny Thumper" and what they were thinking when they thought of it I would say that it is open to interpretation. My take on it would be the Thumper part would mean the hammer and the word "Bunny" is to differentiate between a War Thumper and a Ranger Thumper....eh...my 2 cents.
Munrock
It's called a bunny thumper for two reasons:
1) the comical look of the Ranger's running animation while holding a hammer 2) the ability to constantly use hammer attacks, esp. knockdowns, due to energy conservation, and to do so at 33% attack speed. Like bunny thumping at fairgrounds. more details here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bunny_Thumper draconis228
question:would devestating hammer work more efficient than backbreaker due to the 3 less adrenaline cost and the fact that devestating hammer causes weakness which + heavy blow gives another KD toppled with a crushing blow?
A Leprechaun
^ no hammer bash > heavy blow
if you use devestating hammer and your tagets dies for 6 more strikes you have a wasted skill
not so newb
You guys know bunny thumpers can also be warriors also right ?
A Leprechaun
^wrong thats just a hammer warrior
Im Perfect U Aint
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Originally Posted by Valkyries
thumping is using the hammer, its the "bunny" part that has to do with the pet
wrong....bunny has to do with how u run while carrying a hammer thumper is the sound a hammer makes go read it on wiki
Thom Bangalter
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haha, I've got a bit bored with my ranger and havnt manged to find a fun and working build for it. And when browsing the forums I've just scrolled past "Bunny thumper" and thought just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO that (how fun could it be), now I decided to check and wow, it seems rally fun, Ill have to try one later today when Im back home...
Ill just need to find a decent hammer too xD
LightningHell
RaO thumpers now, no Ferocious Strike any more.
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