PC: 2 +30, -2 stance shields

with a requirement of 12 tactics what is a Zodiac shield and Echovald shield worth?

i am in the market to buy 1 and need a good price to buy them at. the Echo is really just if the Zodiac shield is too expensive for me.

high req tactics lowers value a good bit, but you're still lookin at 150k or more I would think... both are popular shields

wow. i was hoping i could get a zod for 80k... well i have worked miracles before.. like selling the 25k bow for 55k... maybe i can get another.

never know.. could happen, but popular shields when perfect are very expensive

ok my 1st post didnt show up so il post agian. plz dont get mad if somehow my 1st one comes out so i have 2 in a row... anyway here it is
Well the 12 tactics req should drive just about anyone away. noone really likes high tactics req shields.... but me of course. the only reason I do is cuz when i use the shield i will have my attributes set to a stance built (i use hammer, the "noob" weapon, when im not stance or running)
EDIT: looks like my 1st post didnt work at all since this 1 is showing up...

meh hammers aren't noob, only noobs don't use them or know their value.. great for PvP and they now have good PvE skills

hammers are far from noobish. i love them.

heh.. I know ya do and what's your opinons on a high req tactics zod or echo shield with perfect stats herb? ya think they'd still hit around 150k?

I love hammers too..

Hammers are the shiznit. I wouldnt be surprised if you founda shield for cheap, my 29/2 Summit was only 25k. and thats req 9. SO just be on the look out when your in town, someone might be spamming one at a reasonable price.

yeah well eveyone who doesnt LOVE them thinks ther for noobs who just want to deal damage and tank at the same time., which IS kind of the point of them. i think most people want tanks to do their "job" and tank defensovely and hammers counter that approach (how ever you spell that). back on topic... yeah i am not paying any more that 100k for the shield i want.

lmao you spelled it right dont worry, although you mispelled defensively.

But anyway, hammers own. In PvE the loss of the shield can be a bitch, but KD + On your Knees = neverending stance, which pwns. In PvP they just own everything on sight.

i love using the "on your knees" skill for female chars in PvP hehe. well im still looking. as i was looking someone whispered my and sed good luck. apparently they had found sum1 who had it after hours of searching, but that person wanted 2 stacks of ectos (500).

EDIT: i have decided the zod shield and echo shield were too expensive, and didnt work with the look i was going to go for anyways (a black night), so what do you think a gothic shield with those stats would cost??