Monk Mercenaries
The milk shake
I think its terribly ridiculous that certain *greedy* monks take advantage of the desperation of certain people in missions to find healing monks. Whenever i see Monk to hire, 10k for mission, pm, i just laugh...
Lady Kalvam
Uhm? So what?
Why does it bother you? Besides it being obviously a joke (10 Plat
). You don't have to party with them, never ever. And they're not taking advantage of bad players (you know, because healer henchmen do the job just as well, sometimes even better), they're just playing the game their way.
Just like Drok Runners play the game their way, or people who MUST have completed every quest, every mission and every bonus...
Why does it bother you? Besides it being obviously a joke (10 Plat
). You don't have to party with them, never ever. And they're not taking advantage of bad players (you know, because healer henchmen do the job just as well, sometimes even better), they're just playing the game their way.Just like Drok Runners play the game their way, or people who MUST have completed every quest, every mission and every bonus...
RTSFirebat
Well charging 10K is a bit expensive.
But I think hiring yourself out for 1-3K per mission is ok. Long as its not per person.
I've helped some lower level and newbie players in Ascalon before at a price. Its not that profitable and is fairly boring.
And at the end of the day the monks do it becasuse there is a demand for it. And we all need gold.
I don't agree with it however.
But I think hiring yourself out for 1-3K per mission is ok. Long as its not per person.
I've helped some lower level and newbie players in Ascalon before at a price. Its not that profitable and is fairly boring.
And at the end of the day the monks do it becasuse there is a demand for it. And we all need gold.
I don't agree with it however.
Gonzo
They can hire themselves out all they want, but I won't want to be in a party with them. Nor with any monk that acts as though he's the most vital part of the team. But then again guildies > henchies > PUGs.
moko
i have never seen any monks offering their services for money in a mission. if someone would do it, id be fairly sure that theyd leave right away, or just horrible suck at monking.
yes, theres a lack of monks in the missions, they all gone to farm. >_>
however, if people feel like doing it, why do you care? if they want to be that way, let them be that way. nobody forces you to pay them. its the same with any services in this game, if it is running, powerlvling, or whatever else.
maybe its more common on the american servers, but not on the european ones. =P
i doubt people would pay here anyways, they are all greedy. :/ i only received money for monking once, and that was in THK, the whole party payed me 1k because i stayed after they forgot to activate bonus.
(note that they paid me after, i did not request any money to stay )
yes, theres a lack of monks in the missions, they all gone to farm. >_>
however, if people feel like doing it, why do you care? if they want to be that way, let them be that way. nobody forces you to pay them. its the same with any services in this game, if it is running, powerlvling, or whatever else.
maybe its more common on the american servers, but not on the european ones. =P
i doubt people would pay here anyways, they are all greedy. :/ i only received money for monking once, and that was in THK, the whole party payed me 1k because i stayed after they forgot to activate bonus.
(note that they paid me after, i did not request any money to stay )
Silent Kitty
At some parts in the game it's almost impossible to find an healer. On the other hand, my healer is in Hell's Precipe for ages now. It's almost impossible to find a good party, once you are further in the game. Personally, I wouldn't mind if hench outclassed the average player. Some people just think to much of themselves, and a little humiliation doesn't hurt.
Hench are always there and don't charge much. They simply insist on sharing the drops. Paying a healer is just plain stupid. Only noob monks fall for that. And those will benefit more from some green item.
Hench are always there and don't charge much. They simply insist on sharing the drops. Paying a healer is just plain stupid. Only noob monks fall for that. And those will benefit more from some green item.
Lets Get to Healing
Monks can do this becuz some times they actually need the mission, and they can turn a profit by "helping".
Stupid Shizno
I love going on my monk (his name is simmons) and help THK, or FoW...or really any mission i guess. (even factions) Since i have 8 lvl 20s (accounts) i guess after completing the game 8 times, killing stuff is meh....
If you ever need a monk (thats good too hehe) just Whisper Me (Stupid Shizno) and ask for Simmons....but make it funny, i prob will ignore you you say "I saw your thread on guru, i need monk in dunderhead". Something like "Hey mate! I need simmons for the win!" or "We Request Private Dick Class Simmons!"....or just tell me your a Red vs Blue fan, and ill come.
If you ever need a monk (thats good too hehe) just Whisper Me (Stupid Shizno) and ask for Simmons....but make it funny, i prob will ignore you you say "I saw your thread on guru, i need monk in dunderhead". Something like "Hey mate! I need simmons for the win!" or "We Request Private Dick Class Simmons!"....or just tell me your a Red vs Blue fan, and ill come.
AlbinoChocobo
On the other hand, go to the Granite Citadel, and watch those throngs of pre-op 55s desperately looking for a 'capping party' (for non-monks : Shield of Judgment is a vital elite for 55 builds, and can be capped in Mineral outside GC). I guess they'd pay to have a tank join them in their merry chase.
BTW, same comment as always, henchies will do it for you. A 6-monks party can sucessfully venture into the big great outdoors.
BTW, same comment as always, henchies will do it for you. A 6-monks party can sucessfully venture into the big great outdoors.
Cash
i think any class charging for their "services" on a mission is down right rediculous .... unless said person is "running" the mission of course. im more than willing to pay when i can go afk or dance while i read guru on the other monitor, but to PAY for a monk to heal in a mission?!? ... no thanks and welcome to my block list bub.
and i totally agree about the granite citadel example. when i capped all the prophesy elites out in mineral with my warrior, i ended up going 4 times in a row to cap everything but flourish and SoJ. its pretty much the only time you see monks begging for a group. two times of the four i took a monk capper with me (didnt need them- henchies suffice out there for me) and explained i was just capping "x" but id also help them get SoJ. both times we ran into mr myd springclaw first (not the first boss, but first of the 2 caps) - the first guy thanked me immensely for the cap and proceeded to help me mow thru two more bosses until we got to mine. the second time the guy left me high and dry after his cap. wonder which of those more likely to be 55 farming all day or sitting in THK charging for his help?
and i totally agree about the granite citadel example. when i capped all the prophesy elites out in mineral with my warrior, i ended up going 4 times in a row to cap everything but flourish and SoJ. its pretty much the only time you see monks begging for a group. two times of the four i took a monk capper with me (didnt need them- henchies suffice out there for me) and explained i was just capping "x" but id also help them get SoJ. both times we ran into mr myd springclaw first (not the first boss, but first of the 2 caps) - the first guy thanked me immensely for the cap and proceeded to help me mow thru two more bosses until we got to mine. the second time the guy left me high and dry after his cap. wonder which of those more likely to be 55 farming all day or sitting in THK charging for his help?
Farmer
People are greedy, and they have the right to be so. Overall, that is human's nature.
Monks have the right to ask for 10k for helping; you have the right to laugh at them......and most important of all, we all have the right to refuse to hire them. I don't see the problem with this.
Monks have the right to ask for 10k for helping; you have the right to laugh at them......and most important of all, we all have the right to refuse to hire them. I don't see the problem with this.
Mr_T_bot
Some monk in a group I was in yesterday was like "whoever pays me the most gets priority with heals." I told him he can go fornicate himself and I was kicked from the group. Go figure.
Farmer
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Some monk in a group I was in yesterday was like "whoever pays me the most gets priority with heals." I told him he can go fornicate himself and I was kicked from the group. Go figure.
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CartmanPT
If they were not charging they were probably be in some other place (UW or something), so just ignore them.
Its a service just like run or leveling, but just more useless.
Its a service just like run or leveling, but just more useless.
mushi
Monks can charge, well. In all honesty if i were to go back and help people do certain missions (like Iron mines, etc etc) i would ask for some sort of money, simply because i've done it and i need some money. But, i wouldn't charge a 10k fee, probably like 2-3k.
AlbinoChocobo
Well, I'll beat on a dead and putrefied horse, but monk (excluding smiters) are a support class ; only certain persons will want to play that. The sad thing is, the ratio of actual monks in the player population is rather low (exclude all those purely farming Mo/W). What you're seeing is a fringe population playing a new money scheme ; I certainly hope it's not a durable mutation in the player base.
you could also build a 55/105/605hp monk, and farm for the gold you need. You'll make 2-3K in no time, and can go back to playing.
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Originally Posted by mushi
Monks can charge, well. In all honesty if i were to go back and help people do certain missions (like Iron mines, etc etc) i would ask for some sort of money, simply because i've done it and i need some money. But, i wouldn't charge a 10k fee, probably like 2-3k. |
dr_james2k
Mesmer to hire, I pay you 10k for mission, pm
demon dantes
Well i think most of the time when you see a monk for hire it is because he has had terrible experiences with groups for that mission. I know when i was in the deep the other night the warrior i was to protect in room 1 kept dying and i felt really bad but could not understand why this was. It wasn t until i noticed that he was using heal sig while fighting the kanaxai lol. Now he had already yelled at me and made me feel like chit,and i even gave him a cc free of charge. Once i found out he loved taking 400 pts of dmg it pissed me off.
Things like this happen to monks all the time. They get blamed for things or people dying and then boom all of a sudden you find out it was the other guys fault. It would seem to me when something goes wrong everyone and i mean EVERYONE blames the monks first.
I would never charge money to help out but i can see why some do,guess really it is no different then paying a tank to run you somewere. Or even getting pvp rank,3k per fame seems really steep to me when you have to fight in the battle as well. There are always going to be people charging for something it will never end.
Things like this happen to monks all the time. They get blamed for things or people dying and then boom all of a sudden you find out it was the other guys fault. It would seem to me when something goes wrong everyone and i mean EVERYONE blames the monks first.
I would never charge money to help out but i can see why some do,guess really it is no different then paying a tank to run you somewere. Or even getting pvp rank,3k per fame seems really steep to me when you have to fight in the battle as well. There are always going to be people charging for something it will never end.
Silent Kitty
One the other hand; If you make people pay to join you, you find less rage quiters
Vahn Roi
My main character is a monk and even I'm ashamed of these people.
Vincaro
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I've helped some lower level and newbie players in Ascalon before at a price. Its not that profitable and is fairly boring.
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Azmodan
I've never charged anyone for my healing. I've often been offered money for my services though. If I need the mission, I refuse the money. If I don't need the mission, then I would consider it.
There was a group doing Thunderhead Keep that paid 2 monks 30k each. That's crazy!
There was a group doing Thunderhead Keep that paid 2 monks 30k each. That's crazy!
TheSonofDarwin
If you need a monk and are unwilling to take the hench (which are perfectly fine) or wait for someone who needs the mission, then well... I see nothing wrong with people charging for their help. I don't do it only because I hate repeating missions more than I already do on my monk (helping guildies), but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
It's not the monk putting himself out for hire that thinks he's the most vital part of the group, it's the people hiring him that think that.
There will always be a monk coming along that needs the mission, if you cannot wait for him/her, or won't take the hench, I see no reason why these people who have already done the mission should do it for free. It's not shameful, immoral, despicable - noone has to hire them. It's no different than runners getting paid for their services, imo.
I see nothing wrong with people charging for their help. I don't do it only because I hate repeating missions more than I already do on my monk (helping guildies), but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.It's not the monk putting himself out for hire that thinks he's the most vital part of the group, it's the people hiring him that think that.
There will always be a monk coming along that needs the mission, if you cannot wait for him/her, or won't take the hench, I see no reason why these people who have already done the mission should do it for free. It's not shameful, immoral, despicable - noone has to hire them. It's no different than runners getting paid for their services, imo.
GloryFox
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dr_james2k Mesmer to hire, I pay you 10k for mission, pm |
In all honesty I've only charged once for monking. Mostly because the player who needed my help was listed in my "Book of Grudges" from a previous mission. He was a jerk but offered 5k plus the first gold that dropped for em. I agreed and helped him through the next mission. Halfway through I almost gave him his money back and left. He did say thank you for staying and said I was the best darn monk he ever stressed out. "O.O" Go figure...
J snukka
i dont play monk at all. But i wouldnt mind if a monk asked for gold. As long as it is very reasonable amount. After playing game since Beta testing. I saw the abuse they recieve. Alot of players don't appreciate the class and the players playing them. So i guess they deserve to ask for gold.
Vermilion
Meh..as people have said, who cares if monks what some money? It just lets you know who are probably the monks you don't want.
While doing THK, I almost considered getting one of the rent-a-monks..because waiting in town for hours just isn't worth it.
When I started my PvE monk I actually wanted to be a rentamonk...if I ever got good, Id do it..
still waiting on that last part.
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Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin
If you need a monk and are unwilling to take the hench (which are perfectly fine) or wait for someone who needs the mission, then well...
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When I started my PvE monk I actually wanted to be a rentamonk...if I ever got good, Id do it..
still waiting on that last part.
Tainek
I honestly see no problem with it whatsoever
If a player wants to charge for his time, what is the problem?
Is he forcing you?
not last time i checked
it is prehaps a bit tasteless to charge while doing a mission you need, but again it is no crime, your not forced to pay.
what if they have finished all the missions, instead of farming (which helps nobody but themself) they offer themselves to assist with the mission, and they ask a little money for theyre time, is this such a crime?
ive never done it personally, but i have no problem with them doing it.
anybody who makes a huge fuss is just a drama queen, theyre not hurting you in the slightest
If a player wants to charge for his time, what is the problem?
Is he forcing you?
not last time i checked
it is prehaps a bit tasteless to charge while doing a mission you need, but again it is no crime, your not forced to pay.
what if they have finished all the missions, instead of farming (which helps nobody but themself) they offer themselves to assist with the mission, and they ask a little money for theyre time, is this such a crime?
ive never done it personally, but i have no problem with them doing it.
anybody who makes a huge fuss is just a drama queen, theyre not hurting you in the slightest
Aug
I find nothing wrong with rent-a-monks. I'd rather do something else with my time, like PvP or watch a movie, but for those who don't like/want to farm, and like PvE, seems like a win/win for all involved.
It is absurd the number of people who think they need two human monks. One really is sufficient, if the other 7 players bring some support/damage mitigation skills. And if they don't want to do that, kick one of 'em and bring Alesia or Lina, depending on whether your human Monk is a healer or protter.
It is absurd the number of people who think they need two human monks. One really is sufficient, if the other 7 players bring some support/damage mitigation skills. And if they don't want to do that, kick one of 'em and bring Alesia or Lina, depending on whether your human Monk is a healer or protter.
konohamaru heaven
Outside of "Farming" monks are rather rare compared to most of the other professions (poor mesmers). If there are no Monks you could also take along the Monks Little Sibling named the Restoration Ritualist. They actually can Stable heal more efficienty than monks can, but if you expect to go into a place where you can expect quick dps a monk is a must since they are still king/queen of spike healing. There are some Desperate people out there looking for monks at any cost and thats the purpose of these Mercenaries, but this style is also just as legitimate as Running in Tyria is so sadly this will not leave anytime soon.
Also just because a monk hires themselves out does not mean they are not a good monk and will leave quickly. I don't do this, but I dont disagree with what they are doing as in a Sense it is like running a Business.
Also just because a monk hires themselves out does not mean they are not a good monk and will leave quickly. I don't do this, but I dont disagree with what they are doing as in a Sense it is like running a Business.
Astraea Zopyros
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It is absurd the number of people who think they need two human monks. One really is sufficient, if the other 7 players bring some support/damage mitigation skills. And if they don't want to do that, kick one of 'em and bring Alesia or Lina, depending on whether your human Monk is a healer or protter.
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As far as rent-a-monks, personally, I'd sooner run a mission over for free than hire myself out. However, there isn't anything wrong about it. Just the way the world is, sadly.
Silent Kitty
Monks work good in pairs. One healer and one protector, though the protector could easily be replaced by a Ritualist, if their spirits didn't suck so much. Casting a spirit with a recharge time of 1 minute, and a very slow casting time just doesn't cut it in most situations.
wsmcasey
My first character thru prophecies was a healing monk when Guild Wars first came out. I don't recall taking much crap from people about my abilities to heal them. I suppose I was doing a decent job. I think hiring out my services would make me feel cheap, and its kind of in poor taste. You can't blame people for doing it though, it's human nature for people to approach a situation and ask themselves "Whats in it for me?". Even people of quality can be and often are peaty and small.
This is still just another form of service in Guild Wars, just like running, uw spider capping, power leveling......etc, etc.
No one is twisting your arm and making you hire a monk, just ignore it and move on.
I think hiring out my services would make me feel cheap, and its kind of in poor taste. You can't blame people for doing it though, it's human nature for people to approach a situation and ask themselves "Whats in it for me?". Even people of quality can be and often are peaty and small.This is still just another form of service in Guild Wars, just like running, uw spider capping, power leveling......etc, etc.
No one is twisting your arm and making you hire a monk, just ignore it and move on.
Goats17
Don't get me started on this, I had a two hour argument in Boreas Seabed.
Priest Of Sin
Honestly, when I'm on my MM, I prefer Rits. They bring spirits, but most of the time they bring BR. And I love them for that 
On to the point, charging for your services is BS. Unless you're running. If you want compensation for a mission, go elsewhere, go farm or something. If you're going to let me go afk while you do EVERYTHING, I might compensate you A BIT...
I'm thinking 1 gold.
On to the point, charging for your services is BS. Unless you're running. If you want compensation for a mission, go elsewhere, go farm or something. If you're going to let me go afk while you do EVERYTHING, I might compensate you A BIT...
I'm thinking 1 gold.
Nivryx
I call them Hooker's, I saw one today in Senji's Corner as I was heading out to do a chest run.
"Experienced Healing Monk For Hire - 20k/hour, I am professional."
and then he'd spam his /rank. I mocked him by saying,
"Experienced Chest Runner For Hire 100k/hour, You pay for keys, I keep all drops and profit!"
Sadly, I actually had someone PM me asking me where I was...I assumed they were joking about it as well...never did find out if they were though...
"Experienced Healing Monk For Hire - 20k/hour, I am professional."
and then he'd spam his /rank. I mocked him by saying,
"Experienced Chest Runner For Hire 100k/hour, You pay for keys, I keep all drops and profit!"
Sadly, I actually had someone PM me asking me where I was...I assumed they were joking about it as well...never did find out if they were though...
Aug
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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
Honestly, when I'm on my MM, I prefer Rits. They bring spirits, but most of the time they bring BR. And I love them for that
On to the point, charging for your services is BS. Unless you're running. If you want compensation for a mission, go elsewhere, go farm or something. If you're going to let me go afk while you do EVERYTHING, I might compensate you A BIT... I'm thinking 1 gold. |
Monks don't typically hire themselves out for missions they've never run before (although I'm sure some do), nor do they do it in zones overflowing with monks. And there is an ignore feature, if their advertising spam is that disturbing to you.
Just seems stupid to me to complain about it.
lishi
you can ignore them...
you cant find a monk? take hencies.
i still have to find a mission who cant be done easly with monk hencies.
you dont like hencies? wait
you dont like wait? start a monk
you cant find a monk? take hencies.
i still have to find a mission who cant be done easly with monk hencies.
you dont like hencies? wait
you dont like wait? start a monk
Fate
1) There is currently a shortage of monks in GW (especially Tyria)
2) My monk (like many others) beat the game months and months ago.
On any particular day that I hop on I may get bored and decide to make some cash. I can either:
1) Go green farming
2) Play on a different character then my monk...
or I can
3) Go do missions that I've already done.
People desperately want monks, I'm perfectly willing to do Thirsty River again if someone is willing to make it worth my time. In the time that mission takes I could make at least 5k doing other stuff (just the time alone it takes to put together a group I could make at least 10k) so I hardly think it's unreasonable for people to want to be properly compensated for the time, experience and service they are providing.
(on my monk my "Availible for Hire" messages always go in the trade channel)
2) My monk (like many others) beat the game months and months ago.
On any particular day that I hop on I may get bored and decide to make some cash. I can either:
1) Go green farming
2) Play on a different character then my monk...
or I can
3) Go do missions that I've already done.
People desperately want monks, I'm perfectly willing to do Thirsty River again if someone is willing to make it worth my time. In the time that mission takes I could make at least 5k doing other stuff (just the time alone it takes to put together a group I could make at least 10k) so I hardly think it's unreasonable for people to want to be properly compensated for the time, experience and service they are providing.
(on my monk my "Availible for Hire" messages always go in the trade channel)
anonymous
Maybe if other classes see a monk charging in their group they should say to that monk, pay me 10k or I will put aggro on you, see how the monk that is charging likes this.
disclaimer: this isnt for all monks, just the ones that charge.
disclaimer: this isnt for all monks, just the ones that charge.
Age
Then agian you can get some good Monks that will keep you alive in missions.I don't see anything wrong in charging the party not group itself depending on the mission and yes you can get henchies to do it but but you can't ask them to change thier skill bar.I was offered 2k at the rof mission but turned it down this is in desparation as the Fire Island missions can't be run and a nd nothing helps like a good Monk.