Most screwed up green drops ever! 4 times to the same person!

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

hey all

jus killed rotscale for the 4th time in 40min with a PUG from toa, and the we have had the jammiest ever person in out group.

The green bow rotscale drops, dropped for him all 4 times, nonone else got the bow!!!! Grrrr.

Now, what could be the possible cause of this, he was a tank, so wasnt dealing damage.
damage received? position in group(was 3rd from top of list)? hacking the system? an anet screw up with drop code? sheer brutal luck?
This is the weirdesr drop pattern I have ever, ever seen. 4 times to the same person lol. Anyone have any ideas?

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

That almost sounds like a bug. I can see, twice. Maybe even three times, but four in a row? That can't be "random."

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

"Random" encompasses all possibilities - that one is just really improbable. lol

So was he nice enough to share, or did he keep all 4? :P

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

he kept everyone of them!

Nivryx

Nivryx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kenya

Mo/

lol, i won't lie, i'd keep them all too if i was that lucky...i mean come on...you would try to tell your guildies that you just got 4 straight green drops but only 1 to show for it? you'd need all 4 to even make them consider it a possibility. afterall, how often do we get THAT lucky? gotta have some keep sakes...

Arknow

Arknow

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Middle of Space, Corner of No and Where

Ell EFF GEE

R/

RNG+ greed = this post

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

Thats sounds really messed up, bet everyone was really annoyed.

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

lol, we were all pissed. more at the game that anything. its the weirdest drops I have ever seen. I mean lol.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Pseudo random numbers.

terrible theresa

terrible theresa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Intergaltic Gargleblasters

W/Mo

a guildy & myself went out farming totem axes just for fun. ran thru the first parts then started killing everything. she got 4 totem axes in the 2 runs we did & I got nadda. a glitch?? I hope so but I havent gone back with her to find out yet. sucked bad enough the first time.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Oh I've had the same person take the "good drop" at alot of places.

Random doesn't mean that the drops are equally spread...Random means a Number Generator is at work, and like said, it encompasses all outcomes, from fairly spread, to giving all drops to one person.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Back in the days when I still used to farm, I think the Oro group I was in was rather annoyed with Drago dropping two different green bows to me at the same time.

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

well as it happens, the day when this thread is resurected is the day i get some screwed up green drops :P

Was out with 2 guildies n 5 henchis in grenths/sf to cap eviscerate.

There were 3 green drops to us human players, more specifically, to me.

We killed morgriff, i got the shadestone, and jus beside him was flint fleshcleaver, i got his staff.

This was jus in grenths may I add.

We get inside SF, and first boss we fight is drago, and I get his 20/20 flatbow. the we kill some stuff, and I get a gold ravenstaff.

I know most of there r useless, part from the bow, but still, those drops were a bit weird.

ps according to my guildies, its cause I slept with the anet staff

Chilly Ress

Chilly Ress

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Me/

Drops are supposed to be random...hmm...

Sora

Sora

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Hong Kong

Guardian of Old Ascalon (GoA)

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilly Ress
Drops are supposed to be random...hmm... But they are no longer random when all drop for the same person....

Soup Erman

Soup Erman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Ham Storm

1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 = 1/4096. Its unlikely but certainly not impossible.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mournblade
"Random" encompasses all possibilities - that one is just really improbable. lol
that's what I was gonna say. It's perfectly possible, just very unlikely.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sora
But they are no longer random when all drop for the same person.... said occurance is still a possibility of "random"

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soup Erman
1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 = 1/4096. Its unlikely but certainly not impossible. The first one could be anyone of the group, so it's 1/1 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 or only 1/512. A bit more likely and when considering that the poor dragon is killed possibly hundeds of times every day it is very likely that such a 'freak' incident will occur, frequently.

Boone

Boone

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/E

I´ve seen something like this before, but I was the one that got the drops.

Was in grenths footpad/SF, We did regular sf(no quest) farming(5 man)
I had in that run, 7 greens, 2 from footpad and 5 in SF (of the 7 bosses we killed in sf), the bonder left cuz he said I was hacking etc. well I was like, wow. (1 boss even dropped 2 for me) The best thing was, they all were like gordacs hook blood, drago's flatbow, brohns rod and stonehart.

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soup Erman
1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 = 1/4096. Its unlikely but certainly not impossible. grr, I had it all figured out and then I scrolled down and saw you had already posted it.




That's some pretty dumb luck to that party member of yours. He better watch where he steps... there's a powerful elementalist out there always looking for green items XD

Dylanowns

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Leader of: Zombies Stole My Ecto [ECTO] currently of the [SMS] Alliance, Racthoh ftw

W/N

hmmm high luck im guessing.

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

"Thats more than lucky" :P

I dont think it was luck, personally, I feel it is anets programming, and there is a slight bug in it somewhere. Far far more likely than the same green dropping to the same person 4 times in a row, or me getting a green drop from several bosses in sf/grenths with 5 henchies n 2 guildies, while the guildies got nothing.

dr_k

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Nightshift Ressurection

E/A

because i just killed him three times in a row with my guildie and so far he didn't drop anything! it's kinda annoying really according to the fact that everyone says he drops that green bow every time he dies...now what would you call this "luck"

Thibor

Thibor

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

A Circle of Ravens

W/

I've only farmed it once with my ss necro in a pug. I got the bow first try and havent pushed my luck lol

PanGammon

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

Might have been HAX. Thats always a possibility........

FrogDevourer

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on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

Servants of Fortuna

It's a conspiracy. ANet hates you... Personally.

Spydergst1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amy Awien
The first one could be anyone of the group, so it's 1/1 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 or only 1/512. A bit more likely and when considering that the poor dragon is killed possibly hundeds of times every day it is very likely that such a 'freak' incident will occur, frequently. Your math is not correct. Since there are 8 players the chance for a drop to one person is 1 out or 8. There for the correct math is 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8.

If you need more then just my word on it google ask doctor math

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

lol, hmm, this thread has been brought back from the grave lol.

The 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 x 1/8 is the correct way to work out the probability of the drop happening.

However, in response to the poster that states that he he tried it 3 times, and no bow drops at all, maybe anet has nerfed the rotscale drops.

Stoneys Rock

Stoneys Rock

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Wales, United Kingdom

Great Success [GS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Priceykins
"Thats more than lucky" :P

I dont think it was luck, personally, I feel it is anets programming, and there is a slight bug in it somewhere. Far far more likely than the same green dropping to the same person 4 times in a row, or me getting a green drop from several bosses in sf/grenths with 5 henchies n 2 guildies, while the guildies got nothing. not trying to troll around here but just because it happened to your party doesn't make it a worldwide glitch your just unlucky ;P and the guy must have his luck title maxed out from that. Seriously its just an underdog probability that actually happened may not see it ever again. ;P
You have witnessed something truly special....annoying too but hey not all special things are great lol

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

indeed, you are probably right

However, i felt then, and still dow now, that the 0.0244% chance of the green actually dropping the the same person 4 times in a row is far less likely than there being a programing glitch, as we all know, "the simplest explanation is most often the right one"

However, seeing as I have never seen a repeat performance(mainly cause I havent farmed rotscale again) it could have just been an act of random probability, or perhaps anet fixed the bug i suspected, and just never published the fact(which they have done numerous times)

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Just sounds like a mixture of random luck/chance. Drops are random and there is not hacks to make the game drop to the same person over and over again.

I been on missions with guildies and had two dyes (Green and Silver), 3 gold runes and 2 gold weapons drop for me... while others didn't get anything.

It maybe a bug, but most likely its just damn luck.

Priceykins

Priceykins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

Heroes Etc [HeEt]

Yeah, never considered that it was a hack at all, as tbh, if you had a hack that made all drops come to you, why use it on rotscale, rather than in fow or uw say.

It was most likely a product of luck, and really, i think its time to let this old thread die peacfully, and fade into the night..........

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Priceykins
Yeah, never considered that it was a hack at all, as tbh, if you had a hack that made all drops come to you, why use it on rotscale, rather than in fow or uw say.

It was most likely a product of luck, and really, i think its time to let this old thread die peacfully, and fade into the night.......... Agreed

And with that final comment, I'm closing this now.