petition to give all players all skills

elavro

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

total equilibrium of telenet

R/Me

I made this petition because I think it's very unfair for those who only bought factions that they cant get all the skills, this makes them alot weaker in pvp/pve. I hope anet reads this and give all players all skills, so they dont feel stupid that they bought factions and not prophecies

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Just buy Prophecies!

ArenaNet is a "business." ArenaNet wants to make money in any way they can.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

i hope you realize what you are demanding does do much sense.. its a moo point ><

anet wants their money its only fair

pyrohex

pyrohex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Yeah, and then while they're at it, they should give us Chapter 3 for free, too.

clarianaeneas

clarianaeneas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/E

What would be the point of releasing Factions then? New armors and weapons and some PVE only? Please understand, the skills are a part of a chapter are a part of it, if you didn't pay $50 for it, there's no reason you should have it.

Song Rui

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

We are all pretty [ugly]

W/

Whatever happened to the 'You don't need to purchase any expansions, you'll always be equal in pvp' motto Anet had going huh?

Its not gonna happen though.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

I laughed when I read the title.

It's not going to happen.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Song Rui
Whatever happened to the 'You don't need to purchase any expansions, you'll always be equal in pvp' motto Anet had going huh?

Its not gonna happen though.
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Quote:
You don't need to purchase any expansions, you'll always be equal in pvp
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If you can't PvP with only one Guildwars game against players with both or the other game, then you're not as good at PvP as you should be. And yes, I have played with skills from only one GW and vice versa.

Unkillable Cat

Unkillable Cat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

New Dragons

Mo/R

if they did that then it would only open the way for people to demand chapter 3 skills for chapter 2 players, and for prophecies players to have acess to canthan skills. If you want it buy it, its your own choice not to

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Welcome to capitalist economics. Oh, and /notsigned.

konohamaru heaven

konohamaru heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Some where in Cantha beyond the Petrified Forest and the Jade Sea

The Amazon Basin

/not signed

Mr_eX

Mr_eX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ice Tooth Cave

Opt and Niho Private Chat [lulz]

N/Me

This is the balance of playing an MMO with no monthly fee. If you don't buy all of the chapters, you don't get all of the content.

Just buy Prophecies. They recently cut the price to $40 since Factions was released.

Rampager

Rampager

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Australia

Mo/

most of the good skills have duplicates anyway

elavro

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

total equilibrium of telenet

R/Me

I have both factions and prophecies, so that isnt the problem. This game should be always balanced in skill ways in pvp, though i find it a bit unfair for those who only own factions that they have less pvp possibility's and having less ways of diversity. Or am I that wrong and do factions only owners really have enough skills?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by elavro
I have both factions and prophecies, so that isnt the problem. This game should be always balanced in skill ways in pvp, though i find it a bit unfair for those who only own factions that they have less pvp possibility's and having less ways of diversity. Or am I that wrong and do factions only owners really have enough skills?
They have enough, I think. If you want to get into any of the top PvP guilds, you will want to have both games anyways, and that's probably about the only level where lacking one of the games could really hurt you. In most areas of PvP, there is a substitute skill or build available if you don't have access to one of the games.

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

Doomlord: And if you would be good enough to join a high level pvp, you should be so interested in the game that you already bought both.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

big ehl oh ehl here, hey I got an idea why don't they just not release anynmore games and start charging a monthly fee. OH OH and then they could start being buttholes and not communicating anything to us, OOOH THEEEEN they could turn off GW then half the complaining losers would die..(sorry only way I could think of it)
/notsigned due to lack of thought

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

@OP: lol

joncoish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

If this idea were to go ahead, how would that be fair to those of us who bought both prophecies and factions? Just go out and buy prophecies if you want the skills so bad, cheapskate!

Hidden in the Mist

Hidden in the Mist

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

This is flamebait.

The Great Al

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

ALOA

E/Me

/not signed...buy both chapters, problem solved

TheOneMephisto

TheOneMephisto

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

/notsigned, how else would Anet make money. All the serious PvPers (easily half the game community) wouldn't have any incentive to buy new chapters.

Vogue

Vogue

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Toronto

[GoD]

W/

I didnt buy factions and now in pvp im like "what the hell, what skill is that?!?"
But i knew that would happen cause i didnt buy factions. so suck it up.

Bane of Worlds

Bane of Worlds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Meadow

Rt/

/unsigned

it's not going to happen and never will since Anet is a for-profit company and that suggestion defeats the purpose of buying other GW chapters

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Song Rui
Whatever happened to the 'You don't need to purchase any expansions, you'll always be equal in pvp' motto Anet had going huh?

Its not gonna happen though.
Your skills arent weaker just because you didnt buy the next chapter. Your flare will hit for the same and you will still get your +3 from mending. Just because you cant use whatever skills you want doesnt make your current skills any worse. The only thing you are limited to is what FotMs you can run, and just because you cant find a group doesnt mean anet made prophecies players worse than ones with both chapters.

Caleb

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

As long as they do a good job balancing different chapter skills, there should be no issues with there being varying skills between chapters.

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

Hahahahahahahhaa

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I don't think he noticed/knows that prophicies-only accounts don't get Factions-only skills...

Amity and Truth

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

I don't really understand why this thread is still open. The suggestion is just dumb, not even worth discussing plus this thread has spawned nothing but harsh comments and downright flames.

TadaceAce

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

They are equal, the prophecies only have the same balance against factions only. You want more skills your gonna have to dish out more money!

Nivryx

Nivryx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kenya

Mo/

plz make it so i can farm urgoz bow from devourer's outside of ascalon as well

[/sarcasm]

/unsigned

i don't think its unbalanced, it is a simple strategy to get you to want the other chapters that you don't have and therefore make them money. Personally, I remain unaffected from such a strategy as I was going to buy factions anyways. I see it's working on you because you think its unfair and therefore you want the skills....buy factions...its great

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

I'm against it like pretty much everyone else. That said, I do think that if you borrow/steal a hex/elite/skill/etc from someone in a chapter you don't have, that you should be able to use it. I also believe that the PREMADE pvp characters should be useable by all, nomatter what chapter(s) they own, with all their skills available. A newbie with no skills unlocked can use a premade with all the skills, so long as all those skills belong to the chapter they own, but right now, if they try to use say the assassin premade but only own prophecies, they are kinda crippled. The premades are one more form of advertising to get people to buy other chapters, let them actually do that.

shmek

shmek

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by elavro
I made this petition because I think it's very unfair for those who only bought factions that they cant get all the skills, this makes them alot weaker in pvp/pve. I hope anet reads this and give all players all skills, so they dont feel stupid that they bought factions and not prophecies
A feeble cry. ANET has some smart marketting going and this is only a morsel of it. You will buy both or be inferior basically. Same with next edition. Since it's a standalone (no monthly fee) game making sure everyone buys a copy is one of the only ways to keep the revenues coming in.

/unsigned as well

Dark Suoon

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

um no....totaly fine the way it is, they need to buy the other game

/notsigned

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
I laughed when I read the title.

It's not going to happen.
I did too, but because i thought he meant give all skills, as in you dont have to buy em. But I laughed once i read this.

If they let everyone have the skills then they'd pretty much be giving the game away. What else is in Factions? Armor, missions proffesions? This si to add more features to it. Besides, have r clones anyways.

I think its obvious.

/NOTSIGNED

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Tuoba Hturt Eht

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Deimos Tel Arin [CCTV]

W/

Actually, all players already can have access to all skills, provided that they purchase both Prophesies and Factions.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

/hell no

Helios

Helios

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

OMFG Gimme free internet connection, too!

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist
This is flamebait.
Definitely.

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

/notsigned

The skills are infact part of each campaign. If you could have all factions skills without buying factions then why buy it? Anet would lose money.

Brother Gilburt