I was chilling out in Seitung Harbour and someone said they were selling a set of daggers, +33% enchant length. So i took a look, it was only 19, then they proceeded to say this :
I don't know if we should all be alarmed by this, or not. They refused to show me the sword, and simply stated "no selling item".
Your thoughts?
Possible GW Hack program?
Vlad Mortuus
slappy
they might be able to edit what is displayed on their screen, but i highly doubt that the server would register it as being anything other than a normal enchant mod.
Lets Get to Healing
Your post says he showed you the item THEN you said he said "No, selling" hmm . .. . .
No he didnt hack. Only l337 haxter bot wammos running mending can do that.
No he didnt hack. Only l337 haxter bot wammos running mending can do that.
Vlad Mortuus
No, if you re-read my post it states he showed me a set of daggers, not a supposedly hacked sword. The sword i asked him to show me, but he refused to.
Overnite
ZOMG that hacker is talking in green letters !
Manic Smile
if I tell you I have pot in my dresser will you call the cops to my house?
seriously why waste the forum space on this...
seriously why waste the forum space on this...
Vlad Mortuus
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if I tell you I have pot in my dresser will you call the cops to my house?
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Cacheelma
....so you're talking about possible hack WORDS?
I mean, all he got are just that....words. How hard is it to make that up?
I mean, all he got are just that....words. How hard is it to make that up?
Malice Black
yea he/she/it is bullshitting...
Gaile Gray
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Originally Posted by slappy
they might be able to edit what is displayed on their screen, but i highly doubt that the server would register it as being anything other than a normal enchant mod.
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Do any of you guys remember the "speed hack" rumour of a year ago? Sure, the player looked like he was speeding like all get out, to himself and, short term I think he may have even appeared to be faster to those observing. But the server knew where he was at all times, and he wasn't going any faster than before the use of the alleged "hack." He snapped back to reality sharply, with no change in outcome from the attempt.
Pillz_veritas
Nvm. hacks are bad w/e.
IllusiveMind
Gaile you just digged out a million of google searches...
Priest Of Sin
echo mending hax ftw :P
twicky_kid
You CANNOT hack GW. Everything you do is on their severs. All your chat logs and anything else you can think of you do in game they know about. You cannot hack them without altering the server which would be a red flag.
They may not be able to get rid of all the bots in the game but at least we never have to worry about duping. IMO is way more destructive than bots. Every game I've ever played had some kind of hacks within months of release. GW has gone over a year with no hacks.
Gaile if you are reading this forward that to your marketing team. A popular game with no hacks has never happened. Would be a great selling point.
They may not be able to get rid of all the bots in the game but at least we never have to worry about duping. IMO is way more destructive than bots. Every game I've ever played had some kind of hacks within months of release. GW has gone over a year with no hacks.
Gaile if you are reading this forward that to your marketing team. A popular game with no hacks has never happened. Would be a great selling point.
Alias_X
You probably can hack Guild Wars... especially if people are using farming bots, but who would do that?
Doomlord_Slayermann
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Do any of you guys remember the "speed hack" rumour of a year ago? Sure, the player looked like he was speeding like all get out, to himself and, short term I think he may have even appeared to be faster to those observing. But the server knew where he was at all times, and he wasn't going any faster than before the use of the alleged "hack." He snapped back to reality sharply, with no change in outcome from the attempt.
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Lets Get to Healing
OMFG he didnt hack. Ahcking! maybe hes ahcking? Hes probably sick!
Kool Pajamas
If you hack GW, GW will know about it really quick.
pyrohex
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Originally Posted by Alias_X
You probably can hack Guild Wars... especially if people are using farming bots, but who would do that?
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twicky_kid
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Originally Posted by pyrohex
I believe bots are a sort of script run by the computer, not an alteration of game content.
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Its not accually part of the game itself. Any alterations to the game would be found immediatly. Technically GW has the best set up. All server side game to prevent hacks and streaming to give fast easy updates.
Don't ever uninstall though. Have to download all those updates over again.
xiao1985
omg, I can't believe what I learnt in information system actually has some use...
1) from various post i have seen so far, GW probably uses remote info presentation, ie server handles all the data storage and logic, whilst sending processed info back to clients... for security purposes of course...
2) as mentioned, farming bots are not hacks, they are simply programs which does repetitive things for humanm, a sort of AI, intelligient agent iirc
3) the supposed "hacker" didn't talk in green... when u pm some one, your text appears in green...
1) from various post i have seen so far, GW probably uses remote info presentation, ie server handles all the data storage and logic, whilst sending processed info back to clients... for security purposes of course...
2) as mentioned, farming bots are not hacks, they are simply programs which does repetitive things for humanm, a sort of AI, intelligient agent iirc
3) the supposed "hacker" didn't talk in green... when u pm some one, your text appears in green...
Manic Smile
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
You CANNOT hack GW.
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Guardian of the Light
Hacking GW isn't impossbile however you'd have to hack the server and then Anet probably would shut down the servers, deal with changes, add anti-hack software and then re-open the servers.
So basically all you could do is trade a lot of your time + a lot of other people's time + you getting sued if they trace your I.P (for a lot) = 2 seconds of a little hax of you going faster.
All in all GW almost unhackable
So basically all you could do is trade a lot of your time + a lot of other people's time + you getting sued if they trace your I.P (for a lot) = 2 seconds of a little hax of you going faster.
All in all GW almost unhackable
Ensign
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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
You CANNOT hack GW. Everything you do is on their severs.
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That said, while the codebase of the game itself (through the glimpses we've seen of it) seems to be of a quality that gets people fired from enterprise software companies, arena.net's netcode is the best around. They give the client just enough to function, and it simply isn't an open enough system to make it ripe for abuse (unlike, say, World of Warcraft). Whoever wrote it is one of the best in the business - and the lack of any consistent hack in over a year of retail is a testament to the security of their system.
It's quite possible that Guild Wars is hackable to some extent. But if you're looking for a game to hack you really couldn't have picked a worse one.
Peace,
-CxE
shardfenix
Guild wars is a program in which the information is stored mostly on their servers. This is called a server to client service, and cannot be hacked unless you have access to arenanet's servers. The worst you can do to "hack" guild wars is to make a bot program.
Gaile Gray
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Whoever wrote it is one of the best in the business - and the lack of any consistent hack in over a year of retail is a testament to the security of their system.
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Rampager
zomg 1337 h4x0r
Doomlord_Slayermann
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QFT. I'm a major fan of the programming team at ArenaNet. I don't always understand what they do, but dear lord, they do it well.
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Summary for those who don't like to read my long posts: 9ui1d w4rs R t3h 1337
Summary for those who don't like to read my long posts and don't know l33tspeak: WoW sucks.
makosi
The GW community gives anet/NCSoft a lot of stick for this game sometimes but the communty rarely praise them for the security and reliability of the gaming servers. My point being, I'm highly satisfied with the servers and the service provided. Over a year and no hacks and only a few small hours of downtime for maintenance and that rollback. From what I hear from a friend that plays WoW, us Guild Wars folk are pretty lucky.
lyra_song
^_^ im happy with GW security, theres no duped items or anything.
The only way you can lose out is if you are scammed, which is all player based, not server based.
The only way you can lose out is if you are scammed, which is all player based, not server based.
Stockholm
It's a great system, the programmers have done super!!!!
Too bad some players get there brains hacked(scammed) but thats not A-Nets problem
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The only way you can lose out is if you are scammed, which is all player based, not server based.
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Too bad some players get there brains hacked(scammed) but thats not A-Nets problem
Da Cebuano
I once told a guy asking where to buyDolyak Signet that I'd sell it to him in all chat. This one other guy then tells me I'm a scammer cause I can't sell skills, but I managed to convince him that I sell it all the time. He then proceeds to ask me how to do it...... cause he just wants to know.... not that he'll actually do it cause it would be considered scamming and bannable.. but it would be good to know just incase he wanted to get rich.. Needless to say, this convo went on for about 10 mins w/ him asking me how to sell skills and me sounding like an established businessman of skills selling.
Moral of the story is that Don't believe all the BS you hear; the above post is a true story, no nubs were harmed in the making of this post.
Moral of the story is that Don't believe all the BS you hear; the above post is a true story, no nubs were harmed in the making of this post.
Bad Apache
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I've got this amazing speed hack where I can type "Charge!" into the chat box and the chat bubble will appear even though it doesn't appear in the chat window and then me and all the allies arround me go 25% faster! OMGWTFBBQ H4X.
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M C H A M M E R
My hack owns you...I can make a meteor hit your head...PFFT OWNED
bam23
My hacks own yours. I can teleport!
Priest Of Sin
Rurik has leet hacks. He dies at level 10 but comes back as a zombie at level 22(or so). I want his leet hacks.
lightblade
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Bingo, Slappy. It is entirely possible that this is what is going on, client-side fudging of numbers that absolutely make no difference to the item itself, which resides on the server and which the server assures will not be changed, hacked, or modified beyond what the designers intend.
Do any of you guys remember the "speed hack" rumour of a year ago? Sure, the player looked like he was speeding like all get out, to himself and, short term I think he may have even appeared to be faster to those observing. But the server knew where he was at all times, and he wasn't going any faster than before the use of the alleged "hack." He snapped back to reality sharply, with no change in outcome from the attempt. |
twicky_kid
Hacks are ment to cause dmg or abuse an exploit. What I ment by cannot be hacked is that you will be found too quickly for it to do much dmg. Since the game is server side they can simply do a roll back to undo all the dmg. Unlike other games where they have to alter the files on your computer to make the rollback happen Anet doesn't have to. Only took them a few hours to roll back all the accounts in GW last time.
Yes you can hack them. In the end will it do any dmg? I dought it. Most hackers are not going to attempt to even try if they know their dmg will be undone in a short time. Besides this is a business for some people. Lets not crash the money train. Most hackers are out to cause finacial harm to companies. Crashing GW wouldn't benifit anyone.
We know that alterations won't work. Dupes are the only thing that's a real threat but its on the server side. In a sense you would have to hack the server to create a dupe. Can anyone say red flag? Item with same stats and skin just got created while no monster was killed. I don't think that would be hard to find. Even if its unided the stats are still known. When you enter an instanced world all the drops from monsters are created. Its predetermined what you are going to get. Its not random on drop. Your inventories are taken into account as well. So all the items in that area are already known before you even enter. I'd say dupes would be a long shot if it ever did happen.
Anet has done an excellent job on the servers. We have only been down 2 days in over a year. 1 of those days was to implement the next chapter.
Yes you can hack them. In the end will it do any dmg? I dought it. Most hackers are not going to attempt to even try if they know their dmg will be undone in a short time. Besides this is a business for some people. Lets not crash the money train. Most hackers are out to cause finacial harm to companies. Crashing GW wouldn't benifit anyone.
We know that alterations won't work. Dupes are the only thing that's a real threat but its on the server side. In a sense you would have to hack the server to create a dupe. Can anyone say red flag? Item with same stats and skin just got created while no monster was killed. I don't think that would be hard to find. Even if its unided the stats are still known. When you enter an instanced world all the drops from monsters are created. Its predetermined what you are going to get. Its not random on drop. Your inventories are taken into account as well. So all the items in that area are already known before you even enter. I'd say dupes would be a long shot if it ever did happen.
Anet has done an excellent job on the servers. We have only been down 2 days in over a year. 1 of those days was to implement the next chapter.
TheOneMephisto
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Originally Posted by lightblade
Even if the item is not REALLY hacked, they'll still get banned for attempting to scam people right?
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Doomlord_Slayermann
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Rurik has leet hacks. He dies at level 10 but comes back as a zombie at level 22(or so). I want his leet hacks.
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