Why is Punishing Shot an elite?

Quote: Originally Posted by EvilSod

Punishing shot: If Punishing Shot hits, you strike for +10...18 damage and your target is interrupted.

broadhead arrow: You shoot a broad head arrow that moves slower than normal. If it hits, target foe is Dazed for 5...17 seconds, and if target foe is casting a Spell that Spell is interrupted.

put broadhead on same skill bar with savage shot and you have so many more possiblities! now u can quikly daze that anoing mesmer, and move on to the warior using heal sig, knowing that even if u dont wach the mesmer is temporary out of game, because every wand hit interrupts him....

well, pretty much any caster imo would resign if woud see that 2 rangers have broadhead arrow on their skillbar

I would prefer BHA for most Factions bosses, as many are hard to interrupt with their fast casting.

imo... BHA is for no0bs who can't time their Concussion Shots right :P

Punishing Shot ftw!

Quote: Originally Posted by Valerius

If you can't land concussion shot, BHA is not going to help you one bit.
Oh, and good luck landing BHA on a target -_-

Quote: Originally Posted by Evilsod

Quote: Originally Posted by Reikai

Because someone forgot that BHA gives dazed, which dramatically slows casting and makes subsequent interrupts from normal attacks much easier, as well as it's inherent interrupt.

Both have uses... Punishing with other interrupts is a more powerful and painful spell stopper... if you can time them well. BHA on the other hand only needs 1 skill (not counting prep) to shut down a caster to an extent (other people hitting him etc), using less slots and more reliable, though note that it can be removed.

Depends on playstyle imo.

Punishing is easy to cap, much more so than any of the mursaat elites

Quote: Originally Posted by Reikai

Punishing Shot is a smooth, handy, destructive and a must-have elite. When use properly, it makes or breaks your team. Use it more and you'll get addicted to it like me, lol.

Punish your foes with it!

Broadhead arrow is nothing more than comp arena trash. Unconditional (apart from the fact that it has to hit) daze is just cheap comp arena tactics and this is why I hate this skill - even though I'm a real fan of the ranger. The fact that it travels slowly is of no consequence as rangers will often run and stand right next to their target before unleashing it. I'd take concussion shot over this, its a non-elite and if you can't interupt that ele's fireball with it then go play another profession. Sorry, went off topic.

Punishing shot, as folk have already mentioned, has bonus damage whenever it interupts any skill - thats why its elite - plus the fact that you could have three non-elite bow interupts on your bar plus another elite skill would be unfair in my opinion.

On the subject of ranger interupts, I dislike the fact that they are spammable and do damage regardless of whether you interupt anything with them or not. There's no consequence of missing an interupt like there is with memser interupts - for example if you miss power spike you don't do any damage and waste 10 energy or if you miss a powerdrain you don't get the energy, whereas ranger interupts are relatively cheap and there's no real consequence if you miss the interupt as you still do damage with the arrow itself. This is why you will see a lot of rangers just spam them in hope of catching a skill and in fact a lot of the time they do just because the interupts are being spammed. I bet there's a lot of monks with 1/4 second spells that have been interupted a few times just because of luck on the ranger's part. This is why I think there should be something to deter spamming of these skills, such as you lose 5 energy if the interupt bow attack fails to interupt a skill. Anet tried to deter spamming of these skills by implementing a slight pause after each skill but this hasn't really solved the issue.

Quote: Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

Quote: Originally Posted by monkey grip

Punishing shot is the only ranger elite i use

PvE = BHA
PvP = PS

This is what I think for now. Anyway, its kinder stupid to try using BHA with a Flatbow.

Quote: I bet there's a lot of monks with 1/4 second spells that have been interupted a few times just because of luck on the ranger's part. This is why I think there should be something to deter spamming of these skills, such as you lose 5 energy if the interupt bow attack fails to interupt a skill. Anet tried to deter spamming of these skills by implementing a slight pause after each skill but this hasn't really solved the issue. Actually ANET nerfed ranger spike with this pause, I dont think they had in mind the spamability of the rangers interupts. I dont think it has to be nerfed.

Quote: Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

Quote: Originally Posted by monkey grip i hate the word noob, and i hate refering to people like that, but when i saw the description for BHA, i was excited, i thought it would be THE elite to have now.

After I got it, i realized that punishing, and concusion have better and more consistent results.

therefore i came to the conclusion that the devs put BHA in for unskilled interupters. I hate it when others sink down to calling others noobs, but I do have to agree that BHA is a lot like a those things they put in the gutters at the bowling allies for kids.

/agreed


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Originally Posted by Almight Zi On the subject of ranger interupts, I dislike the fact that they are spammable and do damage regardless of whether you interupt anything with them or not. There's no consequence of missing an interupt like there is with memser interupts - for example if you miss power spike you don't do any damage and waste 10 energy or if you miss a powerdrain you don't get the energy, whereas ranger interupts are relatively cheap and there's no real consequence if you miss the interupt as you still do damage with the arrow itself. This is why you will see a lot of rangers just spam them in hope of catching a skill and in fact a lot of the time they do just because the interupts are being spammed. I bet there's a lot of monks with 1/4 second spells that have been interupted a few times just because of luck on the ranger's part. This is why I think there should be something to deter spamming of these skills, such as you lose 5 energy if the interupt bow attack fails to interupt a skill. Anet tried to deter spamming of these skills by implementing a slight pause after each skill but this hasn't really solved the issue. When it comes down to it, skill wise, the ranger does simply have an overall advantage in interupting. There is mesmer interupts are actually faster than a ranger shooting an arrow. I remember when I first started interupting with my ranger after doing it with my mesmer for so long, I kept getting frustrated because my timing was just a LITTLE off. This I think is the only justifiable reason for the shortcomings in mesmer interupts.