why are Shiro's weapons so high requirement ?
floplag
seems to me that these weapons are bascially ruined by the high requirement. end game rewards such as this should not be made borderline useless by such a high req. or am i missing something here ?
megalomaniac_mutant
Anet hates us.
CKaz
IMO they should have been 15% always no detriment but 15req.
Hey they're Shiro's stuff right?
Instead it's just the model/skin, and I don't even get the sword (meh).
However Shiro's daggers I <3
Hey they're Shiro's stuff right?
Instead it's just the model/skin, and I don't even get the sword (meh).
However Shiro's daggers I <3
RTSFirebat
Beats me. They have always been like that.
Raxxman
15% no penalty would be unbalanced (slightly) in PvP as anywarrior worth his salt has Req 15 (Dunno bout assassins but I assume its the same).
frickett
The numbers dont have to be equal to be balanced. IMO
zankoku
Well, considering Shiro was a master assassin and the Emperor's personal bodyguard, it'd make some sense for his Dagger Mastery to be so high.
Check out the description of the Dagger Mastery attribute: "The damage and effectiveness of Dagger strikes, dagger-based skills, and the chance to inflict a critical hit increases with rank in Dagger Mastery." Guildwiki notes that there is a 2% chance per rank in Dagger Mastery that attacks from your daggers will double strike.
So really, if you're looking to deal damage with Shiro's weapons, it's to your benefit to raise your Dagger Mastery attributes.
Check out the description of the Dagger Mastery attribute: "The damage and effectiveness of Dagger strikes, dagger-based skills, and the chance to inflict a critical hit increases with rank in Dagger Mastery." Guildwiki notes that there is a 2% chance per rank in Dagger Mastery that attacks from your daggers will double strike.
So really, if you're looking to deal damage with Shiro's weapons, it's to your benefit to raise your Dagger Mastery attributes.
Lord Aro
Would have been nice to be req12, so that non-primary W or A's can use the weapons.
floplag
if the req is to be that high, for a green reward.. sure seems to me there should be some benefit to doing that ... but i guess thats just me
thesecondrei
It's a.nerfs way of poking fun at the people that actually think lower req= higher critical rates.
Aera
Who cares. Don't use daggers if you don't have 15-16 daggermastery...
zankoku
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Who cares. Don't use daggers with if you don't have 15-16 daggermastery...
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Malice Black
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Who cares. Don't use daggers if you don't have 15-16 daggermastery...
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Rikimaru
Because Shiro is a 1337 Haxor level 30 with 15 Dagger mastery and 15 Strength.
Don Zardeone
Shiro is a warrior, not an assassin.
He can't get 15 in dagger mastery...
SPOILERS
Check the cutscenes. Kisu calls Shiro a warrior. A warrior who should stop protecting the traders from bandit raids and should become his personal bodyguard.
Those are warrior jobs.
Shiro also says that vizu or whatever he name is, has no honour because she stabbed him in the back. He states that assassins are honourless.. with him having honour.
So Shiro is really a W/A and those can't get more than 12 in daggers....
He can't get 15 in dagger mastery...
SPOILERS
Check the cutscenes. Kisu calls Shiro a warrior. A warrior who should stop protecting the traders from bandit raids and should become his personal bodyguard.
Those are warrior jobs.
Shiro also says that vizu or whatever he name is, has no honour because she stabbed him in the back. He states that assassins are honourless.. with him having honour.
So Shiro is really a W/A and those can't get more than 12 in daggers....
Kyle
he obviously has a holiday armor piece that lets him use sup dagger rune to reach 15.
AW Lore
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Shiro also says that vizu or whatever he name is, has no honour because she stabbed him in the back. He states that assassins are honourless.. with him having honour.
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so much for his honour.
Don Zardeone
I wouldn't call it stabbing in the back. If you listen carefully, you hear a lot of screams and fighting as the screen fades to black.
The emperor has all those female soldiers with him too O.o
The emperor has all those female soldiers with him too O.o
GreatLich
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yet shiro stabbed the emperor on his back at the harvest temple.
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The emperor has all those female soldiers with him too O.o
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edit: to make my post a litlle more ontopic
The req of those weapons are so high because Shiro was a true master of his art, so his blades need to/can only be wielded by those who are masters themselves, not every other random ele or necro out there...
On a related tangent: the requirement vs attribute level on weapons I find rather confusing. If you know how it works, there's little to it; but makes little sense. Why aren't req's capped at 12 anyway? For any build running it's weapon attribute at 16, weapon requirements are irrelevant...
And those that wield weapons but don't spec for them, they don't care anyway (think foci-swapping, IW, etc.)
bilateralrope
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<snip>So Shiro is really a W/A and those can't get more than 12 in daggers....
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Also, I don't remember being hit with the life steal from them so I doubt he was using them in the battle itself. I think the Adept of Shadows may be scamming us and that Shiro never actually used those weapons. Possibly because they weapons are cursed beyond just being req 15, and he wants to get rid of them.
Helios
Just use Victo's Blade or Chkkr's Pincers if you really want those stats without the high req.
Baltuck
To be honest Shiro's Sword is not that amazing, life degeneration gets annoying during battles, you have to constatly heal yourself ect. is a good thing to have as a trophy though.
Drewfense
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Shiro is a warrior, not an assassin.
He can't get 15 in dagger mastery... SPOILERS Check the cutscenes. Kisu calls Shiro a warrior. A warrior who should stop protecting the traders from bandit raids and should become his personal bodyguard. Those are warrior jobs. |
SirShadowrunner
Get the zealous ceremonial daggers with req. 9 you cannot go wrong, as fast
as assassins attack you have great energy renewal, as for Shiros sword with
req. 15, bleh... nice to look at the damascus effect in the blade but if you
want to put 15 in sword, then you are probably running sup runes to get
stats in str and tactics up, to me this opens up the whole issue of storage
space and just how many different pieces of armor do you want to keep
around. Lets see where did I put those platemail pieces hmmmmm........
All depends on what you want to do and how you want to look. I still have
my Rinblades I got from Droks, 15^50, customized, cheap and effective.
-Sirshadowrunner
p.s. if you are not all hung up on having uber req. 8 stuff, sell those pieces
for big bucks and keep the higher req. ones for personal use.
as assassins attack you have great energy renewal, as for Shiros sword with
req. 15, bleh... nice to look at the damascus effect in the blade but if you
want to put 15 in sword, then you are probably running sup runes to get
stats in str and tactics up, to me this opens up the whole issue of storage
space and just how many different pieces of armor do you want to keep
around. Lets see where did I put those platemail pieces hmmmmm........
All depends on what you want to do and how you want to look. I still have
my Rinblades I got from Droks, 15^50, customized, cheap and effective.
-Sirshadowrunner
p.s. if you are not all hung up on having uber req. 8 stuff, sell those pieces
for big bucks and keep the higher req. ones for personal use.
Curse You
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but bodygaurds are elementalists...omg haxzorz
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On a more serious note;
Victo's Blade > Shiro's Sword
Chkkr's Pincers > Shiro's Blades
If you really want a Green weapon with vampiric stats and low requirements, go with Victo's Blade or Chkkr's Pincers. Shiro's stuff is high requirement because he doesn't even use daggers when he fights you (Medditation of the Reaper
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Ensign
Most PvP Assassins don't have 16 Dagger Mastery.
Just saying.
Just saying.
Rent
Why are they req 15? Flavor. Duh.
Malice Black
to represent his supreme skills..
at the end of the day there is more then enough greens floating around so if u dont like the req dont use them
at the end of the day there is more then enough greens floating around so if u dont like the req dont use them
Kijik Oni Hanryuu
I lumma Shiro's blades works perfect considering all my points are in dagger and crit strikes nad besides wielding two swords= teh 1337 haxzorz UBER 5KI77135 (translation skittles)
Captain Arne Is PRO
Well, consider this.
Bosses do ~double damage with skills, right?
So either they just do more damage, or they have higher than 12 in that mastery. Maybe it is possible for bosses to have >12 in a mastery that is not of their own profession?
Bosses do ~double damage with skills, right?
So either they just do more damage, or they have higher than 12 in that mastery. Maybe it is possible for bosses to have >12 in a mastery that is not of their own profession?
Yanman.be
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Well, consider this.
Bosses do ~double damage with skills, right? So either they just do more damage, or they have higher than 12 in that mastery. Maybe it is possible for bosses to have >12 in a mastery that is not of their own profession? |
Well, for those very few bosses that use multiple professions, I would think it is possible
Aera
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Most PvP Assassins don't have 16 Dagger Mastery.
Just saying. |