GVG needs to start giving FAME

ANET, I understand you guys thought you addressed the whole emotes thing with adding of titles and such.
Sorry but for GVGers, you didn't help 99% of the population.
Now, I know you added the Champion Title that is the two teams involved must have both 1500+ rating. Keep in mind you need FIFTY WINS OF HIGH RATED BATTLES. This is an absurd title. I myself have never seen this title but some peeps probably have it. Now lets take a look at the GW ladder that is frozen atm.
Rank Guild Name Tag Territory Rating Wins Losses
∨ ∧ ∨ ∧ ∨ ∧ ∨ ∧ ∨ ∧ ∨ ∧ ∨ ∧
1st War Machine WM Kr 1713 175 36
2nd The Benecia Renovatio RenO Kr 1703 151 40
3rd Mostly Harmless MH Am 1691 116 20
4th No Clue emt Eu 1681 128 28
5th Irresistible Blokes iB Eu 1667 103 14
6th The Last Pride EvIL Kr 1656 168 27
7th Esoteric Warriors EW Eu 1643 126 16
8th Treacherous Empire Te Am 1628 138 22
9th Whats Going On sup Am 1601 148 53
10th Nuclear Launch Detected Nu Am 1590 118 41
11th Peace And Harmony PnH Eu 1590 111 28
12th Supernova Jpn SpNv Ja 1586 135 45
13th Clan Kgyu KGYU Am 1584 119 18
14th Idiot Savants iQ Am 1574 93 14
15th Sacrament Of The Waooru SotW Ja 1566 172 56
16th Spectral Agony sA Eu 1565 117 31
17th Elite Mangudai mn Ja 1539 97 33
18th Storm Bearers SB Eu 1531 101 25
19th Rubies N Sapphires RnS Am 1499 171 52

Only 18 guilds in the ENTIRE game have 1500 rating. And you are supposed to win 50 matches where BOTH teams have 1500 rating. I'm sorry but the only people who will ever see the title are WM, Evil, TE, Reno, KGYU, IQ, EW and all these other people in the top 10. Top 20 rotates around so much its a crapshoot.

Now, HA gives fame. This is the only thing you can really use to see PVP skill without ANY playing. Gladiator title just shows you TA too much. I'm sorry to say but HA is a joke now. It used to be competitive but now a pug can hold. Ever since Obs Mode HA died. HA is more about build and farming the hell out of it. GvG is more about tactics and individual player skill. There is also more coordination in GVG.

If this is true, GUILD Wars (GUILD) should allow the Guild VERSUS Guild Matches, to give some sort of fame. Sure, you can check your ranking on the ladder and all and the capes, but where are the emotes? 99% of people will never get silver capes. Why does HA get all the glory while GVGers get no emotes. I myself am rank 7 but would love to see a GvG emote.

This is why I propose a new system of emotes.
The GvG emote.
Same as HA but differnt emotes.
180 = r3 1000 = r6 and 4465 = r9

Now, here is where the system is implemented. Any GVG with a team involved that is over rank 1000 means you get no fame. This could also stop smurfers.
In order to get GVG fame, both teams must be ranked below 1000.
For every one win against a team with a ranking below 1000+, you receive one fame.
Consecutive wins = one fame more per and the addition of fame if higher ranked team is beaten.
For every win against a team with a ranking below 500, you receive two fame.
For every win against a team with a ranking below 100, you receive three fame.
For every win against a team with a ranking below 50, you receive four fame.

Please Anet, not everyone has 1500+ rating.
However, there is 50k more people who are in guilds ranked 1k or below.
The game is Guild Wars afterall. Give us GvGers some incentive because not every team is going to get top 16 and play in GWFC.

Post if you feel this system that adds fame for every GVG win should be implemented.

TY.

Personally i think improving your game and enjoying your matches is a good enough incentive, i dont need a little number to tell me im enjoying the game


/Notsign

I think guild ranking is fine and no fame of any sort should be allowed, because if your guild is really that good, goto the HA and get fame. If you get owned by IWAY in HA, imagine what IWAY can do in GvG. HA is still very tough, because theres always a build that can beat another build, and only if your group is very skilled, you can hold the HoH.

Agreed. Who cares about titles and emotes? Most people know each others or recognise guild tags, and that's usually enough.

I think its a nifty Idea dont listen to them. I wouldnt call it fame though, something else, like guild reputation or something.

Well I agree and disagree, there should be a seperate title for high rated guild battles (as said 1500+) but there should be one that is for any rating GvG, my guild and I were discussing this that like, you have no idea if someone is good in GvG or not, and don't tell me that's what the Rank titles are for, because they're there for HoH, GvG has different mechanics.

/signed

I completely agree with the OP. Why should HA'ers get the emotes when this game is called "Guild" Wars? I used to enjoy HA alot but it has been increasingly becoming a feeling of grind, trying to get all ur fame points jst to get the new emote. I much prefer GvG anyway .

No, GvG doesn't need to give fame.

As for guild rating points ..

FORMING RANK 9+++++ GUILD EMOTE FOR INVITE.

no thanks, bad plan.

No thank you.

The entire system sucks enough as it is, i suggest anet removes fame from the game completely.

If you need to find out if people are ok, guest them during freeze or against a friendly guild in unrated.

/notsigned

Stop comparing GvG with HA.

I'd like to see fame move out of HoH but not into GvG. I'm spending all my time farming Faction now adays; no time for emote hunts.

/No sign, sry.

Fame just shows that you HA too much.
Fame is worthless. I don't want that crap for GvG.

Guild Looking For Other Guild For Rank Farming No Noobs Plz

edit: caps filter?

THe problem with the entire rank system is that it doesnt show individual skill, it shows they play alot and get into good teams. IMO rank should be completely removed.

/notsigned

Although I can see your logic behind wanting 'guild fame' it would create a whole new problem with higher experienced players who just want to farm the crap out of GvG so they can look good.

There is no doubt that this will happen.

I agree with this. it would be cool to have other ways to make fame than ha.

the Guild name and Guild tags are enough recognition of who you are. No need for displayable ranks. If you're a popular guild, you WILL get praise. Its not like Anet is going to write up a 'HoH team of the week' article or anything.

/notsigned

HA is somewhat corrupt with 'fame-farmers' seeking the shiny emotes. GvG is pure and people play for the sportsmanship and the joy of winning. You can't compare HA and GvG because GvG is way out of HA's league.

The shiny cape trims are sought after and people are selling/buying places in these guilds with shiny trimms which is unfortunate. GvG is rewarding in its own right.

remove rank...unfair on the 1s that gained it fairly, but yea rank doesnt mean shit these days..ppl spamming their emote to get into pve groups make me laugh

as for fame for gvg /no

no fame for gvg please

Don't create a link between rank and gvg skill. If they must get a grindable reward make it seperate.

/notsigned

I'm sorry, but this is one of the most absurd suggestions. The Champion title is indeed a "high end" title and people who work so hard to make it to the top do deserve it. The Gladiator title could probably be the "middle" title for the casual pvpers who don't have the time to grind all the way up to the top in gvg.

A title would be worthless if everyone would be able to obtain it. There are obviously "rare" titles and "common" titles and should stay like that.

I agree with the original poster.

There is no point whatsoever to playing GVG due to no worthwhile reward for it. Champion title is nice, sure, but it's next-to impossible to get for anyone who is not a member of a top 10 Guild.

Special trim on a cape or Guild ranking is worthless because what if you have to leave or get kicked from your Guild for any reason (ie: leader just feels like being a total jerk one day and kicking people for no valid reason), then you lose all that. For those reasons, getting it is not so much as a "reward" as a kick in the face when the reality dawns on you that no one should have to be stuck in one Guild forever to keep his rewards from it.

Putting in fame and emotes for GVG would at long last give GVG an actual point.

/signed

/notsign

This is due to the reason that the GvG title will be achieved by ALOT more people very very shortly. I mean, the seasons now are short to say the least, because theres a championship, when there isn't a championship, seasons go longer and more teams get 1500+ rating.

/signed but not fame, separate system, i dun wanna be ranked with al the HA losers.

/not signed.

/signed - GvG is completely different from HA.

/notsigned

GvG has nothing to do with HA

well ti gives a lot of faction reward.
I want TA to give fame on 10th win or 8 or sth.

/notsigned

But I don't understand everyone ranting about HA. I play it sometimes too, just because it can be fun trying to work out strategies with a random PUG, and I like the rank emotes, well just r3. So what?

/notsigned but somewhat agreed with...

You can gain Luxon and Kurzick faction from Alliance Battles and the Aspenwood/Jade Quarry PvP and you can turn that in to your Alliance and work towards the Luxon/Kurzick friend/contributor titles.

You gain fame in HA, which goes towards your Hero/whatever title track.

Heck, TA and RA have gladiators titles

The third primary large group PvP, GvG, should have some sort of recognition system to it that more people can actually attain. Lots of people GvG but are left out becuase everyone else has the opportunity to show something for it but the GvGers don't. Great - the current title is a high end title, just do it like the Rank titles - that way the guilds in the top 10 there will surely have the highest title while the more casual GvGers can at least be proud to show something , a lower level title,for it.

Anet must've seen your post & i'm pissed, i'm a member of [sup] the req now are 1200 rating+ ( the guild you beat) & 25 wins for the title, everyone can get it now buh, now everyone's gonna farm GvG for that title even, thanks a-net for making this possible...

Fam gvg? let them more free faction ;-)

/Not signed.

It was bad enough that the rank snobbery was already rampant in HA, now getting worse since alliance chat was implemented. People forming groups for this and that even in my own alliance demand a certain rank a lot of the time. Hell if I want to see rank snoots dominating both HA and the GvG aspects of the game. There are enough labels going around as it is.