Any Chance You Guys Got Get A Decent Server ?

Sirus Dibley

Sirus Dibley

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

England

Me/N

Without being rude , can we not get a better server as half the time pages dont load and its a lot worse on the aution site. Im sure we could all chip in without the amount of members on these boards......

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

this has been bought up many times before...

inde has hinted that something special will happen on july 9th..could be new server

just have to remember the cost of a new server come out of the admins pockets..sure a few of us would chip in but the majority of small time users wont

inde..where is my new title..."Perma ban" <~without being banned of course

husker

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
this has been bought up many times before...

inde has hinted that something special will happen on july 9th..could be new server

just have to remember the cost of a new server come out of the admins pockets..sure a few of us would chip in but the majority of small time users wont

inde..where is my new title..."Perma ban" <~without being banned of course Ok, sorry for being "rude", but if the admins were willing to start up a site like this (which I really like by the way), they are also taking on the responsibility of keeping it up to par.

I have had more problems with the auction area in this site than I have had anywhere on the internet. I'll keep coming here since, like I said, I do like it, but not nearly as much as I would if I could get more than 50% of the pages to load correctly.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
...but if the admins were willing to start up a site like this (which I really like by the way), they are also taking on the responsibility of keeping it up to par. If we are willing to start up a site... then we are somehow "obligated" to spend thousands of dollars to upkeep it? Not really the way it works for any business, fansite, or forum. I love you guys, anyone who talks with me in emails, PM's, IRC, in game, forums or anywhere else knows that this site is my passion and I dedicate nearly a full-time schedule to keeping content coming, moderating, gathering sponsors for contests, dealing with server issues and more. But quite frankly the only "responsibility" I feel is to enjoy doing this and to contribute my time to the community.

We are working on these issues, we are more than aware of this. But our server admin has a job and no he can't throw himself at this 10 hours a day. I speak with him daily and we are all working on getting these issues resolved.

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

W/

Without being rude... let's think this over for a minute....
Nope, sorry... This entire THREAD is rude. Of course Inde and the staff are working to keep this site up and running, that's a given. I am 100% there is not one thing you can tell Inde that they don't already know. SO, what I suggest you do is sit quiet and not complain, kinda like the 85,000 other members who don't complain.

FrogDevourer

FrogDevourer

on a GW break until C4

Join Date: Feb 2005

In your shadow

Servants of Fortuna

Without being rude, some people are just jerks. Why don't you *offer* something instead of asking others to pay and to work for your entertainment?

Arya Nibelrund

Arya Nibelrund

McLovin!!!

Join Date: Aug 2005

Farming Zaishen [keYs]

Mo/

Mhhh maybe cause that requires some efforts while complaining is free?
Seriously, I am just happy with the fact that this site exists... Noone is paid to run it, they just do it for passion and for the community. Be thankful that there IS a Guru. You have no idea of the sacrifices that Inde and the other guys do to keep it up.

Ariana Of Damia

Ariana Of Damia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

♥ Aurelio Furor ♥

The Admins could set up a donation program (Paypal).

You never know how much you would make in support of guildwarsguru and it is relativley easy to do

Just a thought


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AlbinoChocobo

AlbinoChocobo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by husker
Ok, sorry for being "rude", but if the admins were willing to start up a site like this (which I really like by the way), they are also taking on the responsibility of keeping it up to par.
total cow manure. GWG creators don't owe you (or me) anything. They could also speed the site up a great deal buy dumping any user they like and closing account creation, for example. i can't even begin to explain how wrong this single sentence can be. Define "site like this", "up to par", and discuss what logic exists between the two proposition.

Quote:
Originally Posted by husker
I have had more problems with the auction area in this site than I have had anywhere on the internet. I'll keep coming here since, like I said, I do like it, but not nearly as much as I would if I could get more than 50% of the pages to load correctly. Pay them $1 for each auction, things will look up fast. Running a server costs money, not just just enormous amounts of time.

BTW, anyone knows how to see GWG's ads in Firefox. Ad-blocking is too zealous, I can't even see the sponsored links (had to check it in IE). Well, I could use IE ...

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cheers to the GWG admins!

Keep up the good work. When I browse the site, I only have problems with pages 1-2% of the time, at the absolute max. I think that is well within reasonable limits. Sure, the search function doesn't work most of the time, but it is not that hard to find stuff anyway (hint: use your brain's search function - logic).

I am so grateful that you all put in so much time and effort so that I have something to do while at work. I like the layout and design of the site. It is user friendly and logically arranged. Seriously, very top notch work.

@ The GWG admins
Don't let jerks mess up your work. It is proven that compaints are much more likely than compliments. Not because there are more complaints but because when we are happy we are content, and when we are content we do nothing. When we are unhappy we have dissonace that we feel we need to resolve, so we complain. So again, good work!

@ AlbinoChocobo
IE seriously?!? :gasp:

-LouAl

EDIT:
When did we all start feeling that everyone owes us something? It really drives me crazy. Your parents owe you NOTHING, your employer owes you NOTHING, your goverment owes you NOTHING, your site administrators owe you NOTHING...get the picture. You are the only person that owes you anything. Why do we act as if we are victims? Why do we not take responsibility for ourselves? Why do we blame others for our problems?

Those kinds of ideals/morals really burn me up. Take responsibility for yourself and quit whining.

Sorry for the rant and btw it was directed mostly toward husker because at least Sirus gave a potential solution istead of just complaining.

Swampgirl Inez

Swampgirl Inez

"I love reading trash!"

Join Date: May 2005

Home Again

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbinoChocobo
BTW, anyone knows how to see GWG's ads in Firefox. Ad-blocking is too zealous, I can't even see the sponsored links (had to check it in IE). Well, I could use IE ...
If you are using the Adblocker extension, you can whitelist a site by right-clicking on the "Adblocker" text in the bottom right of your window. If that doesn't work, bring up the Adblocker options menu. It is in there somewhere. I'm not currently at my own computer, so I can't look it up right now.

If you aren't running the Adblocker extension, check the Firefox options menu (Tools > Options > Content) to see if you have Images restricted.

Hope this helps.

awesome sauce

awesome sauce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

THis site just got a new server a few months back didn't it? Seems to be working alright for me, just a little bit slow. Alot of people go to GWguru because it's the best fansite, and that makes it slow down.

husker

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrogDevourer
Why don't you *offer* something instead of asking others to pay and to work for your entertainment? If you direct me to the nearest paypal donation page I would gladly help out, but since there is none, I assume the admins have taken it upon themselves to keep the site running smoothly by themselves.

I am a moderator of another forums site that has far less people registered and we have a donation icon on the front page. So far we have been able to keep people happy and in turn have had enough donated to be able to keep the site running w/out the aid of "out of pocket" money.

I would be willing to bet that if something like that was here, you would all be amazed at how much you could bring into the site and help with server prices, etc......

I won't get into the other arguments since nothing positive can come out of that. I have my opinions and you have yours, it's just that mine is different, so all you can do is bash me for speaking my mind.

Argen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shadow Nation [SN]

An undisclosed company who I operate as an analyst for is in the process of SCRAPPING no less than 7 blade servers. The person in charge of this process is inquiring currently about making these available for resale. If this is something that we as a community might be interested in, and the cost is reasonable, I might find out if they are available to staff, and donate one to the community (assuming REASONABLE cost. If Inde or one of the folks on the technical end can contact me if you're interested.

I was told they are some kind of replicant server structure (I think, and I have no idea what that means). I'm not an expert, nor will pretend to be; but if it is something we can use to better the community I'd be more than happy to help. Additionally, I'd be more than happy to donate to a reasonable sum of money to site folks here and I think alot of other folks would as well, not as a membership fee, but as a way of supporting the community. A paypal donation link or such would be a great idea.

And by the way, I want to send on my warmest thanks to the staff. You guys do a great, and often thankless job. So, cheers and good show.

Solange

Solange

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Kings Army of Surmia [KAOS]

what about just making these forums readable by people logged in,

people logged off couldn't view posts on the forums nor the auction side of the forum...it helped that other guild wars fansite which also used to lag insanely

DO IT!

blakecraw

blakecraw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Austin, TX

jeez i think after about post #2 this went downhill for no good reason

the guy posts some complaints about a site that obviously has its problems (and NO I'M NOT SAYING THE ADMINS HAVE ANY OBLIGATION TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS OR IMPLYING THAT THE ADMINS MUST BE ALERTED TO THE EXISTENCE OF THESE PROBLEMS) and ppl immediately jump on him and claim he is dissing their sacred site and personally attacking the admins. when somebody starts by saying "Without being rude," it's Not Too Difficult to figure out that they mean no offense to anybody, and that they know it is a touchy topic and are in fact Making a Point not to offend anyone.

I don't believe the admins have any Obligation to make the site anything they don't want it to be, but y would u jump on somebody for stating that they wished the site operated as it was designed to, such as loading pages, and allowing ppl to search thru it

honestly, give the guy a break.

and btw, who on earth sits there grinning and says "good old guru" when they can't use the search feature? it is an AMAZING site but there is absolutely nothing wrong with pointing out some flaws

EDIT: people seem to have missed that i was backing up poster #1 (ie the one who said "without being rude" not "sorry for being rude") and i wanted to clear that up

Arya Nibelrund

Arya Nibelrund

McLovin!!!

Join Date: Aug 2005

Farming Zaishen [keYs]

Mo/

From my point of view, reporting problems and just asking for a new server are 2 totally different things. If there's a problem with the database, or some other features, then every report is more than welcome. If it's only a 'suggestion' to buy a faster server then it's kinda pointless... Does the community think that the admins are not aware of the occasional slowness? Or the fact that Search isn't up? And apart from that, there are many ways of asking for things.
You come up with something like: is there anything to do to make this site work faster and better? Then you probably will get nice answers back
If you come up with such: this site sucks, why don't you buy a new server? You made Guru, so you must spend thousands of bucks on it because i say so then it's likely you'll get some not so nice answers back.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

blakecraw,

I appreciate your comments, but as I have stressed so many times before, I am aware of the problems and honestly just scrolling through the site feedback forum you will see more than enough threads on this with my responses. And I think you are misunderstand as I was not referring to the original poster at all with my comments. We are referring to post #3.

It's ironic that the first post and post #3 used nearly the same terminology with the "rude" comment. But as far as the "Without being rude" statement or the following "Ok, sorry for being "rude","... doesn't fly. I repeatedly see entire flame posts that start with "without being rude, you are an idiot", "without meaning any offense, get a life". When people start a sentence with that statement they know right from the start that it will indeed be taken rudely, offensively, etc. and it's a scapegoat. A way to accept no responsibility or consequences for their next action. Doesn't work in real life and doesn't work on the forums.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
And as far as the "Without being rude" statement... doesn't fly. I repeatedly see entire flame posts that start with "without being rude, you are an idiot", "without meaning any offense, get a life". When people start a sentence with that statement they know right from the start that it will indeed be taken rudely, offensively, etc. and it's a scapegoat. A way to accept no responsibility or consequences for their next action. Doesn't work in real life and doesn't work on the forums. And this is why Inde is admin, and others aren't.

Said it so much better then I ever could. Style bonus +2.

huwbie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Ascending Phoenix

W/Mo

i just want to say that i run a site myself i know how much it costs to maintain a server and i don't see why the admins and people that run this site should have to fork out a huge sum of money when they need not. this site is here as a helping hand an informative place for us GW fans to come and browse. If you can't deal with the fact that this site will lag sometimes as so many people are on it... don't use it! this site is by far the best GW fan site i've used... i just want to say to the admins and everyone here at GWG keep up the good work

blakecraw

blakecraw

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Austin, TX

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
I appreciate your comments, but as I have stressed so many times before, I am aware of the problems and honestly just scrolling through the site feedback forum you will see more than enough threads on this with my responses. And I think you are misunderstand as I was not referring to the original poster at all with my comments. We are referring to post #3. I know, i tried to make it clear that i don't think u need to be told about how ur site operates (i trust u know more about what's going on w/ ur site than anybody else :P), i was just saying this guy doesn't need all this criticism for voicing a couple understandable complaints, without "searching" (...) to see if they had already been posted

and the flame posts i saw and was referring to (yes, i'm aware that not all posts after #2 were flames, it was a generalization) started out "without being rude" not "sorry for being rude," implying that they were directed at poster #1, who in my eyes did no wrong

and yes, i do agree wholeheartedly that post #3 ("i'm gonna be rude and i know it, too bad!") is out of line