Pets Deleted in Dragon Arena

Big_L

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Spectral Agony [sA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteful Dodger
I'm sorry but did I miss something when this fix was released? My ranger is still missing his pet AND since that time I have been outside of various towns on the island and have NOT seen one single tameable pet. No tigers, bears, nothing. So my question is............if there was a fix released where are all the tameable animals?
by fix, she meant that the arena no longer deletes pets. The End. Find another pet.

for real though....they are easily replaceable....relax.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

Yeah the Moa and Phoenix are and well almost anything except maybe the spiders are easy to get. But if you got a spider you can probably get a group of others who lost their spiders to get another.

Anyway it's nice to see some of you offering to help out people who did lose their pets. I just wanted to say I'm very pleased to see that!

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ariana Of Damia
I hope no one went in there with a spider
i did, but oh well...
thought it would be like snowball arena where pets were allowed

now i have to get another pet for my thumper

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
As a Ranger myself, I know that's a real "ouch" and I personally feel your pain. But as a Ranger, I know that the leveling process is very rapid, and I encourage you to not despair but to charm a new pet and have him/her at your side, in fighting form, in a short while.
Hmm if the leveling process is that rapid, then what's the harm in letting people charm level 20 pets (complete with various evolutions) for a few days?

And before anything yells at me, I didnt lose a pet but I know what a pain it can be to level it up to a specific evolution.

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

I did NOT lose my Gruller. I am very glad that I was too tired to play last night and that I rarely take him with me when not doing PVE. I've had Gruller since he and I were both noobz and I've grown quite found of him (snow wolf). Everyone says a rollback would have been horendous but it was VERY shortly after the innitial OMG MY PET IS GONE that they noticed. I think a very quick rollback of those few minutes wouldn't have hurt near as bad as people think.

I think it really sucks that some of you lost your pets, especially those of you who are attached to your pet as I am mine. When I went with my guildies so they could get their spiders, there was never any doubt for me, I wasn't about to let Gruller go. Some of us have silly attachments to things that represent the past. And while a lot of you might think that is lame, it's the same reason I love presear. The nastalgia of the old and what was and how you got to where you are now. Gruller was with me for the ride and hopefully nothing will ever take him away from me.

~Proud Ranger and pet lover!

JohnDough

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

I'm all aboard for an IWAY nerf, but this is a bit drastic.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Forget a roll-back, I don't see why they just don't RESTORE the deleted pets. I guarantee they can determine who was affected and what pet they had.

Perhaps they are doing this. Maybe they just need a day to figure out how to do it and they are really busy right now. Fine. Just say "Oops, sorry! Our bad. We'll fix it, but give us a few days."

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

Well it is deffinately too late for a rollback at this point, I meant right after it had happened.

And even if there is not any hypothetical way to replace the pets, is there not some way to make up for the loss? It just all seems really sad to me. ;_;

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I doubt ANet keeps a backup like every 5 minutes of the entire server for the last few days. It probably would have had to be rollback of several hours, which nobody would have wanted (regarding drops and orbs and the tickets). As for returning pets... I don't know, but I really doubt they're going to do it.

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

I'm not trying to call you out or flame you, but I think that since they sent that live they HAD to have backed up right before they made it live or else it would have been a very risky play on their part. I mean with as many things that "can" go wrong, it makes sense to backup right before sending something live otherwise you end up with the same thing as when the rune traders got reset -that was a lengthy backup that I am sure caused a lot more grief than a few mins to a half hour backup would have. (However I could be wrong and it most certainly wouldn't be the first time.)

HOWEVER in the end, it matters not, we are long passed what could/should/would/whatever have been a rollback so its a moot point ^_^ But it will give them something to think about if this ever happens again.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

I know people are grieving right now but Anet tried to do something nice and this was a mistake. If this is the worst thing that has happened to you this week, consider yourself damn lucky.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Well, remember, the rollback to reset the rune traders was because the economy of the game would have been screwed up. Also, they took down the server for 8 or 9 hours to do it. People losing pets, although understandably upsetting for those affected, is hardly something to bring about such a downtime, during the much anticipated Dragon Festival. A rollback would have done WAY more damage than good.

Perhaps next year's festival should be a Memorial Day, if you will, in remembrance of the pets lost to the Dragon Arena... Just a thought...

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Memorial day for the pet massacre!
Save up fur squares and trade for a memorial mini-pet!

Arteful Dodger

Arteful Dodger

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Geezer Guild

R/Mo

How about our friends at ANet make amends to all rangers who lost their pets to the arena bug by giving them a mini pet to go along with the apology? ANet tooketh away so seems equally fair for them to giveth back.

Mtank325

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

Pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew.

I was so scared that I lost my poor lil' spider. I guess I went into the arena after the deletions.

Peewee

Peewee

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, England

I Uprising I [RAGE]

R/

Unfortunately i cant fully express my feelings on this subject without triggering 'Go Red Engine' I entered the Dragon Arena pretty much as soon as it went up. i remember a update solving the problem coming up my 6th conseq win. That makes the time to solve the bug about 30 minutes i beleive.

Anyway, i lost my Dire Black Widow Spider to this bug. As i play a Thumper, and have spent much of my time making my PvE character perfect for the role, so this effects me particularly hard. Its not a case of simply going back to cap, and then level a pet. Its a case of going down UW, either with PUGS, or a 20-30k spider run, and hoping that i pick up a Dire Spider. I am not sure the relative rarity of these prefixes, but i do know Dire has the highest DPS, which is perfect for a Thumper.

I reported the bug as soon as i found out about it, and i requested that my pet would be restored. As yet i have not had any of my questions answered regarding my inquiry. However, it now seems that restoration is 'impossible'. I think impossible may be the wrong term, and impractical may be a better description. I can understand that it may take unneccasary time and effort to correct any of these problems. However, this is little solice to those of us that actually lost something of value.

Now, i am aware that i am in no position to demand anything, after all everything we 'own' in game is never our property anyway. Even so it still stings greatly that i have lost my pet, which will take a great deal of effort and possible money to put straight.

So, to summarise, i can see the prob ANET has, i can, to a certain extent, see why they may not want to correct the problem, and i can see i have no right to demand my pet back. None of that makes me feel any better about it. What might have made me feel slightly better would have been to have my inquiry actually read through properly, and had a email back from support that answered my questions. instead i got an email back that i suspect was almost entirely automated. I emailed my inquiry under Bugs, as i thought i better report the bug, and then move onto asking what could be done about it. The first email was most def automated, it made no claims otherwise, but the second one merely thanked my input, and did not answer any of my questions. This annoys me most of all becuase it seems to me that the bug may have been unavoidable, the restoration of pets may be impractical, but the customer support i have recieved thus far is unacceptable.

All in all ANET, i accept the apology given by Gaile on behalf of ANET, i am not even particularly mad that the bug occured in the first place. However, the support i have received, or failed to receive thus far makes my blood boil. I hope that i recieve contact over business days to come, otherwise i can see no excuse. May this kind of thing never happen again, and i may others have luck in getting their lost pets back.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Just a note.. while anet and gw is saying that they cant restore the pets, why is it if you had named your pet before deletion, when you capped another pet to replace it, it has the name of your deleted pet?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Just a note.. while anet and gw is saying that they cant restore the pets, why is it if you had named your pet before deletion, when you capped another pet to replace it, it has the name of your deleted pet?
Your chosen "petname" is saved with the information of your character - not the data compiling your pet (evolution, type, etc).

This makes it where you keep your pet name even through changing pets.

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Just a note.. while anet and gw is saying that they cant restore the pets, why is it if you had named your pet before deletion, when you capped another pet to replace it, it has the name of your deleted pet?
It always did that.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

Thank you for the responses.
I'm still heartbroken about the loss of my pet. I play one char, and I get attached sorry, must be a female thing.

I do appreciate the apology from Gaile and do not expect a roll back. Sure would be nice if I could get this stupid phoenix to hearty faster though.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
Forget a roll-back, I don't see why they just don't RESTORE the deleted pets. I guarantee they can determine who was affected and what pet they had. Perhaps they are doing this. Maybe they just need a day to figure out how to do it and they are really busy right now. Fine. Just say "Oops, sorry! Our bad. We'll fix it, but give us a few days."
No, we cannot tell who had a pet, what kind of pet it was, etc. Sorry, it's not that we would not like to be able to do so, but it is not possible. Obviously, this isn't something we can do by request, either. And remember, for the security of the game, the developers cannot spawn gold, items, orbs, pets, or anything at all. So the concept of restoration is not an option, with our deep regrets.

So too is it not possible to offer some form of compensation. We cannot give compensation for any loss, and while that is unfortunate, there is very solid reasoning behind that policy, and the policy needs to be immutable in order to maintain the soundness and the integrity of the game.

I want to say that the number of people affected was very small, in the overall scope of things, because thankfully the bug was caught very quickly. And do know that the relative smallness in number does not in any way reduce our compassion for the loss or our deep regrets for what happened!

And yes, if I did not make it clear, the bug was fixed very quickly and is not happening now. Nothing else was changed, including the placement or the availability of pets.

I wish all of my fellow Rangers the best of luck in finding the best possible pet, and in leveling him or her quickly.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

I'm glad I had a non-pet build when I took my Ranger in. Levelling, even if fast, still takes time.

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

So much for my black moa then. Now I need to find someone willing to sacrifice their ability to be able to capture it doing the quest so I can get it back.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Thank you for the responses.
I'm still heartbroken about the loss of my pet. I play one char, and I get attached sorry, must be a female thing.

I do appreciate the apology from Gaile and do not expect a roll back. Sure would be nice if I could get this stupid phoenix to hearty faster though.
Best way to get a pet to Hearty is Barrage-Pet runs. That's how I got my ranger's lvl 20 Phoenix. You can ususally get about 2-3 levels from a complete run. Also, the pet's damage is so little that they always end up Hearty.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysteria
So much for my black moa then. Now I need to find someone willing to sacrifice their ability to be able to capture it doing the quest so I can get it back.
My necro (yes my NECRO) had a Black Moa named Bob. I wanted to try and see if I could have him in the Dragon Arena. He got deleted. Just today, after I found out he was deleted, I went out and captured a new one. If you have already done "The Beak of Darkness" quest, you can just go outside of Fort Aspendwood (Kurzick) and capture a new one wondering around the area. Just watch out for Mungri Magicbox, he can get in the way.

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Didnt know that Curse You, thanx for the info

Street Cat

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Luxon Knighthood

Mo/Me

Unfortunately, I am one of those who went in with my Dire Black Widow. -ticked- Just found out he was gone today as well. So now I must start the annoying process of finding a good group to recapture. :\

By the way, that black moa is always there wether you have the quest or not (you don't have to do the quest either). I used him as a replacement for my Spider for awhile. >.<

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by B/P_Ranger
Too bad so sad....I cant believe that a software/gaming company as large as the one that has created this game, didnt do test run, didn't get all possible aspects before uploading to the general playing public.
You must be new here, welcome to Guild Wars.

Waldir

Waldir

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Mo/Me

dragon arena changes your skills, thast how the pets were lost, dont know how a bug like that came to be since the snow fights durring chritsmas were the exact same thing.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

went back to catch another black moa, and whne I did it instantly had its old name again

Mr.Interrupt

Mr.Interrupt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Clawson, Michigan

The Good Ol Days [BWE]

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoudeous
went back to catch another black moa, and whne I did it instantly had its old name again
The game saves previous pet names. One last little kick in the nuts was when my Black Moa had my arachnids name.

B/P_Ranger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

R/Mo

LOL, I now have a phoenix named Kitty, in honor of my first Guildwars Factions Festival screwover :P

I know crap happens, no I am not still whining, just a bit meloncholy over it.

Laibeus Lord

Laibeus Lord

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Philippines

Holy Order of the Light [HOL / Holy Order]

R/N

umm, reading the instructions gave me an idea that we will be given a different skill set once inside the arena.

And I've been playing my Ranger in the Dragon Arena yet I still have my pet when I go somewhere else. Maybe this is an isolated case only affecting a few rangers.