Petition to add permanent DP removing item

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

30 Jun 2006 at 07:11 - 1
I would really love seeing a year-round DP removing item, of course this item would be extremely rare, so as to maintainj the idea of even having DP but it would be nice to have a few, these items would not be farmable and would drop like monstrous fangs but a much lower drop rate. Feel free to make improvement suggestions

since the idea hasn't died yet...
One complete DP removing item very rare to extremely rare
One 1-5% DP removing item semi-common to semi rare

ALso this is a good thing since CCs are running low for one, also once you get to 60 DP ina high level area its hard to kill on mob without dying again, once you hit 60 you are pretty much hosed without CCs, this is especially consistent in high-end PvE areas, Deep Urgoz's ToPK FoW UW etc.

oh and uh no PvP usage, they hardly get DP these days neway, other than GvG

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

30 Jun 2006 at 08:06 - 2
Don't see why not.

/signed

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

30 Jun 2006 at 08:09 - 3
Why?

The system works, why change it.

/notsignedinfactisetthepetitiononfireohgodthereisfi reonmypants

mys master

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Mo

30 Jun 2006 at 08:10 - 4
MAby to remove a certan amout such as half or 15% of ur dp because i tthink the Ccs like items should stay 1 once per a year

not saying this is a bad idea but could use some tuneing.

zhai

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Poland

The Witchers

R/Me

30 Jun 2006 at 09:17 - 5
i love my 88 candy canes ;D

/notsigned

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

30 Jun 2006 at 09:28 - 6
Maybe instead of losing 1% DP for every 250XP (I think that's right), you lose 1% for every kill? Then maybe you won't need an item, you just play on...

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

30 Jun 2006 at 09:44 - 7
/not signed

Death Penalty is meant to be there to make dying a burden. Guild wars is easy enough as it is, why should we make it any easier ?

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

30 Jun 2006 at 10:03 - 8
/signed just to piss off the E-Bay traders

f0s

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

30 Jun 2006 at 10:31 - 9
u can restore ur dp at res-points like balthasar/lyssa etc.

tompilk

tompilk

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Lancasire, NW England

The Brotherhood of Afterlife

W/Mo

30 Jun 2006 at 12:00 - 10
i like ripping people off by buying ccs at 1k and selling for 2,
but...
/signed

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

30 Jun 2006 at 12:08 - 11
\notsigned

pve isnt exactly hard

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

30 Jun 2006 at 12:18 - 12
We do have a permanant dp removing item - scrolls.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

30 Jun 2006 at 12:35 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cirian
Maybe instead of losing 1% DP for every 250XP (I think that's right), you lose 1% for every kill? Then maybe you won't need an item, you just play on...
u get a 1% reduction for 45xp

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

30 Jun 2006 at 12:39 - 14
/not signed

That would make people who find this or grind enough gold to buy it at a huge advantage and PVE is really easy anyway.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

01 Jul 2006 at 05:56 - 15
well another one of my ideas trashed, eh I should start keeping my ideas in my skull cest la vie.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 06:22 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
well another one of my ideas trashed, eh I should start keeping my ideas in my skull cest la vie.
No - keep coming up with more of them

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

01 Jul 2006 at 14:49 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by zhai
i love my 88 candy canes ;D

/notsigned
I hate the "i have xyz rare that's super valuable so it should stay rare" mentality. This is just plain stupid, not to mention greedy and selfish.

I'd like to point out that in low level areas, high level characters can't drop their DP outside of morale boosts. Those missions aren't exactly crawling with bosses.

I'd also like to point out that the god/goddess shrines aren't very common in Tyria and you don't resurrect at them The last time I visited them (prior to Factions), they didn't give morale boosts, either.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

01 Jul 2006 at 15:37 - 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cirian
Maybe instead of losing 1% DP for every 250XP (I think that's right), you lose 1% for every kill? Then maybe you won't need an item, you just play on...
/signed Cirian's idea


Kajik, refine your idea a little more and maybe I'll sign it. I don't like it to be extremely rare, but it shouldn't be common either. And there could be several versions of it. For example one reduces DP by one death where another would reduce it totally. However I wouldn't like to see it useable in PvP.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymmina
I hate the "i have xyz rare that's super valuable so it should stay rare" mentality. This is just plain stupid, not to mention greedy and selfish.
I'll have to agree with this. Just because it is rare now doesn't mean it should stay that way. If it were attainable but uncommon or expenisive, then it would be a fair deal. The people who got the original CC's have made more than enough money by trading them at this point and have more than enough time to do so.

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

W/

01 Jul 2006 at 15:43 - 19
Oh yes, let's give more uber rare item drops to random idiots and make them multi millionaires.
Not signed.

xXa1

xXa1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

01 Jul 2006 at 15:48 - 20
not signed

OP's idea will make the game far far less challenging and therefore totally pointless to play. why don't you petition EA for SIM CITY Medieval Fantasy instead?

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

01 Jul 2006 at 15:49 - 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtclarity
Oh yes, let's give more uber rare item drops to random idiots and make them multi millionaires.
That's already being done, it's called ecto and gold drops...

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

01 Jul 2006 at 15:56 - 22
/not signed

MrScaRy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Jul 2006 at 16:20 - 23
/notsigned

this game is easy enough as it is.. why are you trying to make it even easier. If you can just buy items to remove the dp, then what is the purpose of implementing dp anyway? DP was added so that when you zone into an explorable area and you clear monsters etc, making your way through your goal but unluckily die.. you respawn at a shrine so you don't have to zone back to town.

When you respawn, the monsters don't respawn so you are basically progressing through the same mission that is much easier because you already cleared some of the monsters before and then you now can use the dp removing items (which is purchasable as you want it to be) and then continue moving on. Way to go making this game easy. If you cannot progress through the storyline and need to resort to this option then... dude... get a grip.

This would also be very abusable in pvp arenas or competitions. 3 deaths in gvgs will lead you to 45% dp, one more death and you're out. You can use this super item!! No more fear of getting dp'd out!

G_MAGNUS

G_MAGNUS

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

La Legion Del Dragon [LD]

W/

01 Jul 2006 at 16:33 - 24
There's very few places where one can actually use dp removal (I'm thinking Minerals), and like it was mentioned, if you really need that added bonus a scroll or two will do the trick. In my opinion, if such an item was made a constant drop, regardless of how uncommon, it would take away from the 'charm' of special event items.

Tien ak

Tien ak

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Crystal Indignation

R/W

01 Jul 2006 at 22:54 - 25
I agree with G_MAGNUS totaly I farmed alot of these things and saved them till they reached 1k each as we all knew they would be that much eventually

Just beacuse some people missed out well im sorry but tough titty you didn't spend all day farming candy cane shards.


/Notsigned

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

01 Jul 2006 at 23:04 - 26
After wintersday I had 37 candy canes. A month ago I sold 10 of them, saving the other 27 for a time when I needed to use them. Since I'm a caster I've found that my builds work with no problems down to about 30% dp, so below that is when I need to clear DP. When I've got that much dp has always been one of these two situations:
- The PUG is so bad as a whole that we will just rack up the DP again, wasting the candy canes
- FoW groups when I still have the reward from the first quest to grab, which I chose not to pick up eariler so I could save it for when my DP needed clearing. This usually is still the first situation.

So I've never actually used the candy canes I have, so why should we add more ?

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

01 Jul 2006 at 23:20 - 27
/not signed

how about items completing quests instantly

u dont want DP ? dont die..
u are dead ? deal with it ..
u die too much ? ask yerself some questions and/or press alt+f4 .. DP ll be removed for free

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

01 Jul 2006 at 23:37 - 28
Although I don't think they should implement full DP removing items, I think they could do something with adding rare scrolls that, say, remove 15%DP from every member in the party. Priced accordingly. I mean, as it is, our guild stocks up on scrolls before doing the more difficult things (Urgoz and such) and it works essentially the same way. But no, no more 100%dp removing items.

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

01 Jul 2006 at 23:38 - 29
I would like to reverse the idea: When you die you will soon recover the penalties by killing enemies. Thing is, that when you normally progress without dying, you earn + bonusses way too slow! Compared to how fast it goes when you have a death penalty, the bonus for killing when you don't have a penalty should progress the same way. Thats not the case. So I plea for making the bonus the same no matter if you suffer a death penalty or just make healthy progress

I think this solves everything: when you die you will already have benefit of the + bonus, which is not the fact with the current system.

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

02 Jul 2006 at 04:00 - 30
/signed, there are already candy canes so its not hard to add.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 04:07 - 31
agh so many /not signeds IMA die,lol umm I changed my OP to having an item that completely removes it being extremely rare, and one that removes a small percent being semi rare, and I included more reasoning for this, along with the fact that DP stacks faster than it can be removed normally. Please don't get angry before making a suggestion to fix it, I am only tryiong to help people, not trying to start a flame war. I do enough defending peoiple from flames as it is, I don't want more.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

02 Jul 2006 at 05:33 - 32
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kijik Oni Hanryuu
I would really love seeing a year-round DP removing item, of course this item would be extremely rare, so as to maintainj the idea of even having DP but it would be nice to have a few, these items would not be farmable and would drop like monstrous fangs but a much lower drop rate. Feel free to make improvement suggestions
I hear... in the back of my head... the evil.... 'selling <item> X sojs!'

Dp was added as a penalty to dying, this penalty is to encourage you not to die. A permanent removal item removes the point.

/notsigned

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

02 Jul 2006 at 05:45 - 33
/not signed

art_

art_

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 05:47 - 34
no i never sold my precious 20 odd candy canes.


/cry and /whine

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 06:02 - 35
/no way in hell, not signed

Learn how to play and not require a crutch.

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 06:12 - 36
They shouldn't have added CC in the first place.

Try doing a titan quest with a pug. The casters rush in like maniacs...
"Rez pls"
"anybosy got cc I buy"
"wts cc 5k ok?"
"ok"
"woot we can do this, we so pro!"


Instead of stuff like candy canes, we need more places like THK (teaches damagedealing so people don't bring 5 selfheals.. seriously, I restarted my "nubs in thk" project and it has gotten worse, 100% failure now instead of the 90% 3 months ago), Arborstone (teach people to bring res things... everybody who gets stuck in arborstone is someone who doesn't bring a res), ...

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

R/

02 Jul 2006 at 06:49 - 37
I thought it was every 75 EXP that removes 1% DP?

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 06:54 - 38
ty for the flame hockster much appreciated *drools sarcasm* anyway, I do know how to play the game TYVM I also know that once you hit that ungodly 60% dp mark, you can't get back on your feet, hence DP removing items.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 08:43 - 39
If you consistently get a 60 DP, you *do not* know how to play. Or play quite horribly. Either way, wanting/needing a crutch is pathetic.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 09:17 - 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by xXa1
not signed

OP's idea will make the game far far less challenging and therefore totally pointless to play. why don't you petition EA for SIM CITY Medieval Fantasy instead?
umm... what does sim city have to do with this? Its a good game, dont slight it