Archer's Signet {Elite}

Archer's Signet {Elite} - Signet
All your non-attack skills are disabled for 15-9 seconds. For 30 seconds, your next 1-4 bow attack(s) cost no Energy.

This skill itself costs no Energy. It's freaking abusable. Why don't I see any build making use of this skill? Forgive me if I sound noob, I only started about a month, but I figured this alternative combo for a spike build:

1) Cast Favorable Winds, Read the Wind, then Archer's Signet
2) Perform Dual Shot -> Savage Shot ~ Power Shot -> Concussion Shot.

While the dude's stunned for 17s, all your other skills have been recharged already. And if you're on a deadly Spike team, that poor dude's probably shot dead by your other team mates since he can't do nuts.

I havn't exactly thought of a detailed build, but this is what I have impromptu. Please comment.
With so many points into Expertise, energy costs are low, so you don't care about saving a few points of energy a shot. Disables defenses, and recharge time of 45 seconds. Barrage, Oath Shot, Glass Arrow, Broad Arrow Head, Crippling Shot, Punishing Shot are typical elites that are used.

This is not a noob belief, lots of people thought this elite has potential. Unfortunately, it takes 3 seconds to use, and Touch Rangers will easily kill you since you have no defense (you already listed 6 out of 8 skills). Disabling all of you non-attack skills for 9 seconds (assuming max Expertise) will leave you helpless.

In a "good" spike team, you must also watch out for Broad Head Arrow Rangers, they'll daze you easily.

This is just an observation, not a critisism.

It freakin' blows, that's all I have to say about it...

Lets say you have an expertise of 14 to hit the breakpoint for 5 free shots from ARcher's Signet, that gives you an 11 energy concussion.

11 energy doesn't merit the waste of an elite. Rspike teams generally use their elite slots on skills that make the spike more versatile, such as bip, charge, punishing, expell hexes, cripshot, or anything else..

I made a bad argument, but when you think about it the energy AS saves just really isn't worth the elite slot.. I'm not sure if I am reading you correctly. But I think you mean 5 free shots or 1 concussion shot that takes 11 energy to use + energy to use any other arrow skill (upto 4 others).

BiP and Charge? Please tell me they are truly better. BR is better because it isn't an elite. Charge? The Warrior has way better elites than that in a PvP or GvG or even PvE (unless your goal is to run).

I suppose you can either use Serpents of Quickness or Mantra of inscriptions, or Mantra of Signets to instantly recharge your Archer's Signet.

Charge? The Warrior has way better elites than that in a PvP or GvG or even PvE (unless your goal is to run).
Charge is actually a great PvP skill. If a warrior isn't running an axe or a hammer, most times they bring charge.

Charge is actually a great PvP skill. If a warrior isn't running an axe or a hammer, most times they bring charge. But then again how often do you find people that arent Eviscerate spikers?

The problem with Archer's Signet is, the more points you put in expertise, the better it is, but the more points you have in expertise, the less you actually need it. Color me unimpressed. QFT

Its a self defeating elite. Stronger you make it, the more useless it actually becomes. Specially considering the only decent skills it can be used with is Concussion Shot and Broad Head Arrow, 1 of which is elite and very not spammable, same would be said for Cripshot.

i have found a use for this elite - needling any1? Though it only cost 3 energy (12 exp.) Please use an expertise table... if your wasting expertise that much at least make it 13 and make it a 2 energy cost. Wasting 3 levels on boosting Archers Signet makes it even more moronic considering the breakpoint for the Archers Signet is probably different from the Energy Breakpoints, boost 1, lose out on the other. Its a lose-lose situation. If your actually gonna waste your elite on Archers signet purely for Needling Shot, you should consider Marksmans Wager. Or better still Glass Arrows/Melandrus Arrows. A Zealous Bow String makes the 2 energy cost completely irrevelant.

^ My idea for a buff would be making it a Marks skill and not an expertise skill. I like that idea.

^ My idea for a buff would be making it a Marks skill and not an expertise skill. Meh it would make it more useful, but the skill itself fits with the Expertise line. Its about energy costs, which is exactly what expertise is about.

I prefer Reikai, reducing energy costs by a number or a % for x time.

Archers sig is useful when you have heavy e-denial - Even with high experise the skills do cost some energy - when you are being kept at 0 this comes in handy. It would be alot more used if it was marksmanship though 'Cause of all those e-burn mesmers in halls draining your energy instead of your monks? Or because of those mursaat towers you camp in so you can use a shortbow? It's not a good elite, until(if) they buff it, then it might be able to make it on people's bars again...

Please use an expertise table... if your wasting expertise that much at least make it 13 and make it a 2 energy cost. Wasting 3 levels on boosting Archers Signet makes it even more moronic considering the breakpoint for the Archers Signet is probably different from the Energy Breakpoints, boost 1, lose out on the other. Its a lose-lose situation. If your actually gonna waste your elite on Archers signet purely for Needling Shot, you should consider Marksmans Wager. Or better still Glass Arrows/Melandrus Arrows. A Zealous Bow String makes the 2 energy cost completely irrevelant. yea ur right about that never knew that the breakpoint was 13 till now so w/ exp at 13 needling is 2 AS is still useful to get those extra shots in but then its overkill - lol still use it as a form as e gain as i run out quikly spaming needling as i do, marksmans wager, glass arrows, and melandrus arrows all wouldnt work as they are preps and im my opinion i prefer kindle as my prep leaving my elite skill open though marks is the better of the 2 for e gain (though a little conditional) a zealous would negate the energy loss but this is a spike build and i prefer a better string like 5/1 vamp or 20/20 sundering, i like AS as a form of e gain (basicly let my e regen go w/ taking energy from my pool) that is almost as good and get dmg still using kindle as prep but other than that not much use a buff would be nice maybe icrease teh amount of bow attacks u get energy free