Conclusion: majority of GW players are happy with this improvement (i'm one of them) according to A.Net statistics of what usually ppl store.
According to Gaile's Post we may have other storage improvements in future.
The update is coming...some of us doesn't like..but it's inevitable coming update.
END OF STORY..flame war has been already started in this thread.
/request to close.
WTF?! I would like to know which community ANET listens to..
zakaria
TideSwayer
While I think this upcoming "improvement" is a copout to the type of real storage improvements players have been asking for, I do appreciate that ANet posted detailed info about this upcoming change (for better or for better than nothing) on their site. I posted in some random thread a couple of weeks ago wishing for ANet to at least let us know what they were thinking about with the planned storage improvements that were, as Gaile always says in chats, "on the way". They at least (finally) decided to let the player base out of the dark on their line of thinking on this issue.
I hope ANet realizes this isn't going to really fix the bigger problem of storage limits, however. And IMO they still need to address (in some way) the major inconvenience when switching inventory items between multiple account characters, as we players try to compensate for this extreme lack of overall space by using mule characters. Logging in with one character, dropping into Xunlai, logging out, logging back in with another character, going to Xunlai, etc... gets really tiresome. We should be able to look at ALL our characters' inventories from the Xunlai agents, and drop-swap that way. Technically, our unused characters are waiting in a town (ie. near a Xunlai agent anyways), so it would make perfect sense.
I hope ANet realizes this isn't going to really fix the bigger problem of storage limits, however. And IMO they still need to address (in some way) the major inconvenience when switching inventory items between multiple account characters, as we players try to compensate for this extreme lack of overall space by using mule characters. Logging in with one character, dropping into Xunlai, logging out, logging back in with another character, going to Xunlai, etc... gets really tiresome. We should be able to look at ALL our characters' inventories from the Xunlai agents, and drop-swap that way. Technically, our unused characters are waiting in a town (ie. near a Xunlai agent anyways), so it would make perfect sense.
RTSFirebat
Really wish we could have a dicussion which doesn't turn into a flame war.
I've /reported the thread, sorry but if we can't act like adults and have a carm discussion about the storage update, then this should be closed.
I've /reported the thread, sorry but if we can't act like adults and have a carm discussion about the storage update, then this should be closed.
Renegade ++RIP++
I'm quite pleased with the addition of extra storage, but what i would love even more is not having it in the storage but having some kind of covert storage for collectables (irridescent griffon wings, putrid things,etc), dyes and materials capped at 500 for materials like 100 for the rest. With this i mean if you pick up such a wing with your ele or your ranger or heck even your warrior it wouldn't clutter up your normal storage space unless that space was filled.
So in terms of what i want:
smarter version of what they are proposing with the 'storage' containing the items we pick up on different chars immdiately getting transported there. Reason for it, i have like 6 stacks of iron ingots simply because of salvaging stuff on 6 different chars. And if I had to remove it every time i could, the problem of having 1 stack on every char still wouldn't be solved. So in effect you could have an empty iron storage. If you then go and adventure with your ele and find 11 iron ingots they will go immediately to your storage. If you then go and adventure with your warrior and you happen to find again 13 iron ingots, again immediate transportation to your global storage.
That would be a smart storage, and i really really really hope the devs are setting this all up now (addition of materials storage in normal storage step 1?), but in all honesty a person can dream can't he?
cheers
So in terms of what i want:
smarter version of what they are proposing with the 'storage' containing the items we pick up on different chars immdiately getting transported there. Reason for it, i have like 6 stacks of iron ingots simply because of salvaging stuff on 6 different chars. And if I had to remove it every time i could, the problem of having 1 stack on every char still wouldn't be solved. So in effect you could have an empty iron storage. If you then go and adventure with your ele and find 11 iron ingots they will go immediately to your storage. If you then go and adventure with your warrior and you happen to find again 13 iron ingots, again immediate transportation to your global storage.
That would be a smart storage, and i really really really hope the devs are setting this all up now (addition of materials storage in normal storage step 1?), but in all honesty a person can dream can't he?
cheers
Nocere Moriari
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Conclusion: majority of GW players are happy with this improvement (i'm one of them) according to A.Net statistics of what usually ppl store.
According to Gaile's Post we may have other storage improvements in future. The update is coming...some of us doesn't like..but it's inevitable coming update. END OF STORY..flame war has been already started in this thread. /request to close. |
Agree totally, has gone from one stament from one individual to a chicken fight that in most times has nothing to do with the original subject.
/request to close.
Swinging Fists
Just wanted to add my own pointless post. I will, however, refrain from flaming anyone.
/close
/close
Hypernecrofear
i smell a new title 
Tingi
Oke all the people going "omg this thread has to be closed its rly affecting my life!! "/Close"! is slightly strange, jst dont come into this thread. .
Anyway, i agree with regegades post, a smarter versian of storage would be very usefull, however i dont know how much time it would take to produce this so maybe jst adding more storage space would be the quicker and easier thing to do.
.Anyway, i agree with regegades post, a smarter versian of storage would be very usefull, however i dont know how much time it would take to produce this so maybe jst adding more storage space would be the quicker and easier thing to do.
Leddy
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i firmly believe that this is just a first step. if this works out (functionality-wise) for their servers, i see many new tabs coming in the future.
also, ANET is likely considering an increase to a stack size (im no genious, but i dont see how a 250 stack could be much different than a 999 stack- i know upping it to 1000 would throw things off but as long as its 3 digits it shouldnt be THAT big of a deal). its true a stack of 250 iron in storage wont cover a new armor set, but think if that stack were 999 iron? lets all just A) be thankful we're getting SOMETHING and B) be patient and see how this plays out. |
A stack size of 999 would require four bytes per stack.
RTSFirebat
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The stack size is 250 because HEX allows them to store numbers up to 255 in only two bytes (and a stack size of 255 is weird).
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It would be helpful if they increase the stack to 999, but I'm sure like you have pointed out there is most likely a good reason its 250.
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Oke all the people going "omg this thread has to be closed its rly affecting my life!! "/Close"! is slightly strange, jst dont come into this thread.
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bigwig
i'm perfectly happy with freeing up about a dozen storage slots. why do some people have to be so cranky.
Gorebrex
Bescause good idea+not very good implementation=complaints
An increase in stack size wouldve been much more useful, imo.
I dont think the graphic figures into it. Its more likely the graphic is pulled from elsewhere, likely an icon instead of a standard picture. I also dont think the item stack size includes "special rules" for items, I think those are stored in the item's attributes.
An increase in stack size wouldve been much more useful, imo.
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Good thinking there. But I think each stack is most likely a bit more then 2 bytes in size anyhow. Taking into account the graphic of the item stack and special rules for some items, like mini-pets which can be activated in towns or from storage.
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Pro-Monk
What's statistics got to do with it? Why would, or should, Anet cater to only those that store materials as opposed to increasing overall storage that everyone could have used? My main storage issues arise from multiple sets of armor, weapons, and off-hand weapons so this isn't going to do me any good at all.
I'd rather have seen something along the lines of purchasing an extra 5 slots of inventory storage for some in-game coin amount (like 20 or 50k) up to an extra 45 slots (making it equal to a mule character). As it stands now, I have to switch off armor and weapons to unused characters whenever I need to switch a build (like Fire to Air Ele).
IMO the OP hit the nail on the head. Why did Anet only cater to the material horders? They certainly weren't taking a balanced view on this one. If they did only go by stats of what most people have in storage, the minority got screwed for no apparent reason.
I'd rather have seen something along the lines of purchasing an extra 5 slots of inventory storage for some in-game coin amount (like 20 or 50k) up to an extra 45 slots (making it equal to a mule character). As it stands now, I have to switch off armor and weapons to unused characters whenever I need to switch a build (like Fire to Air Ele).
IMO the OP hit the nail on the head. Why did Anet only cater to the material horders? They certainly weren't taking a balanced view on this one. If they did only go by stats of what most people have in storage, the minority got screwed for no apparent reason.
twicky_kid
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Bescause good idea+not very good implementation=complaints
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I would rather them do these upgrades slowely and take their time than wipe everyone's storage out. I have one of the rarest items on the game (or used to be not sure now) and I keep it in my storage because I almost accidentaly sold to the merchant. Its a sup absorption rune that has the minor skin with blue text. I found it the 2nd week of the game's release and the first rune I'd ever found.
If I had lost that and other items my storage just to make room for some common materials you can image the players reactions.
Unlike most updates this one had to no problems. Usually there is always something going wrong with their updates but not this one. I'd say that's a good job.
leprekan
Blue text used to be on ALL runes. The color coding did not come till the rune trader.
sumasage
i somewhat like the update. I have a feeling that if they increase inv space for all items it will probably be like 10-15 slots. Instead they increase inv space for crafing materials and you get 34 slots. I only which they would make it so that you can use those 34 slots for any materials as some of us doesnt stock up feathers but have multiple iron bulk. The bulk size to 999 would be nice too. Just my 2 cents.
Beat_Go_Stick
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Players who own Factions will soon be given a new form of storage through the Xunlai Agent.
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Gorebrex
Twicky, you misunderstand. The implentation of THE IDEA, not the actual changing of the game. My major points with the inventory change is:
1. Its only for Factions players.
2. I was expecting a more useful change(stack size increase to 500, for everyone). Theredve been ALOT less complaints if that had been done, as it would be much more useful to the community at large.
1. Its only for Factions players.
2. I was expecting a more useful change(stack size increase to 500, for everyone). Theredve been ALOT less complaints if that had been done, as it would be much more useful to the community at large.
lyra_song
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why do some people have to be so cranky.
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Welcome to the world of customer service!!!
lol
In all seriousness.
Any storage change affects EVERY account. Its not a Holiday event where 3-4 maps are changed temporarily. Its a PERMANENT change to how items can be stored. We're talking adding to a backbone.
They CANT GORED it up because if they do, we are severely GOREDED.
Testing new additions using something menial (yes materials can be considered expendable) instead of everyone's precious armor, or perfect weapons materials is a lot safer. Consider this step 1. This is a rollback point. In case they screw up, they only ruined materials storage.
If they did 1 HUGE step where they did a massive update to fix material storage, armor storage, etc.....and then screw up....ya... GG.
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When they finish their testing phase, THEY BETTER apply it to prophecies owners too.
eudas
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Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
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eudas
FalconDance
If I recall, it was said to hopefully be implemented 'in the next few weeks' or somesuch.
Kijik, the saying is "Patience is a Virtue"
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Still think the added storage will be sweet. Since most of what I put in there is crafting materials anyhow, it's perfect. I have a merged account and a full roster and don't seem to have near the inventory crunch that a lot of you do (yes, most of my avatars have at least one extra set of armor, my ranger carries two extra) but then again, I don't farm nor do I keep every single thing I find while questing or exploring.
Character slots: can hardly wait for that! I want my necro back and a Smiter/Curser (had one a long time ago).
Kijik, the saying is "Patience is a Virtue"
.Still think the added storage will be sweet. Since most of what I put in there is crafting materials anyhow, it's perfect. I have a merged account and a full roster and don't seem to have near the inventory crunch that a lot of you do (yes, most of my avatars have at least one extra set of armor, my ranger carries two extra) but then again, I don't farm nor do I keep every single thing I find while questing or exploring.
Character slots: can hardly wait for that! I want my necro back and a Smiter/Curser (had one a long time ago).
FalconDance
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Twicky, you misunderstand. The implentation of THE IDEA, not the actual changing of the game. My major points with the inventory change is:
1. Its only for Factions players. 2. I was expecting a more useful change(stack size increase to 500, for everyone). Theredve been ALOT less complaints if that had been done, as it would be much more useful to the community at large. |
EDIT: I just looked it up at GW and it is indeed stated for Factions owners. That's odd. Shouldn't really need it unless you have the merged account, which is probably why I misinterpreted it.
Sorry for my comment. I stand corrected.
Loviatar
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2. I was expecting a more useful change(stack size increase to 500, for everyone). Theredve been ALOT less complaints if that had been done, as it would be much more useful to the community at large.
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do you realize that would double the amount sent for every slot for all chapters to come as you have to transmit a full byte at a time not a byte and 2 bits extra.going from one byte of info to two bytes would be a big increase
also the community you refer to is the minority of (mostly) rich farmers with 20 stacks of a few items or pvp people with armor/wep/items they HAVE to have.
the casual player (majority) will love this.
ALSO
consider that the next tab may be for event items since those are standard items as well
lyra_song
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do you realize that would double the amount sent for every slot for all chapters to come as you have to transmit a full byte at a time not a byte and 2 bits extra.also the community you refer to is the minority of (mostly) rich farmers with 20 stacks of a few items or pvp people with armor/wep/items they HAVE to have. the casual player (majority) will love this. ALSO consider that the next tab may be for event items since those are standard items as well |
Look at any max armor! It requires more than 1 stack. Don't you think its downright silly to only allow us 250 :P
Death Heavens
I'm not happy with it, sorry. This does not help me at all. I mostly have loads of Armor, Weapons, Keys and event items; and that is what I need to store. I have already bought all of the armor I was going to get for factions and collected/used all of the materials I needed. So no, it does not help me; but its good for the people it does help.
I guess I will wait to be happy when I see some improvements in storage that will actually help me and others have a full closet of armor or maybe a full storage of weapons for different situations
I guess I will wait to be happy when I see some improvements in storage that will actually help me and others have a full closet of armor or maybe a full storage of weapons for different situations
YunSooJin
So let me get this completely clear.
The online community has been asking for more storage space for more than half a year now. If I remember correctly, it's been more like a year.
- ANET decides to allow people only to store extra materials, so that the people who were strapped for space because of armors/weapons/etc are still screwed.
Overall judgement? Inadequate.
- ANET decides to limit each storage slot to 250 pieces. Not even enough to buy a full armor set should you be using iron ingots and etc. Those who enjoy hoarding materials and are strapped for space will be forced once more to sell any materials they have after receiving 250 more pieces.
Overall judgement? Inadequate.
Others on the board are suggesting that we eagerly scrap up the leftovers ANET seems to have casually thrown to us. Others are saying that something is better than nothing.
To me, this is a total insult. Players that have been waiting for at LEAST half a year or a year for more storage space have been given a half arsed solution. It is the classic example of too little too late - and at this point it is more like a slap on the face than a salve to any of our problems.
Thanks a lot ANET. For once you couldn't simply reward your loyal playerbase with some free slots, especially when they were mentioned at every other Gaile Gray/Frog meeting, you had to take the next step and thoughtfully make a simple idea into a worse one.
I didn't know you could turn more storage space into a [email protected] idea, but I guess we've got exceptionally talented people devising the guild wars strategy.
The online community has been asking for more storage space for more than half a year now. If I remember correctly, it's been more like a year.
- ANET decides to allow people only to store extra materials, so that the people who were strapped for space because of armors/weapons/etc are still screwed.
Overall judgement? Inadequate.
- ANET decides to limit each storage slot to 250 pieces. Not even enough to buy a full armor set should you be using iron ingots and etc. Those who enjoy hoarding materials and are strapped for space will be forced once more to sell any materials they have after receiving 250 more pieces.
Overall judgement? Inadequate.
Others on the board are suggesting that we eagerly scrap up the leftovers ANET seems to have casually thrown to us. Others are saying that something is better than nothing.
To me, this is a total insult. Players that have been waiting for at LEAST half a year or a year for more storage space have been given a half arsed solution. It is the classic example of too little too late - and at this point it is more like a slap on the face than a salve to any of our problems.
Thanks a lot ANET. For once you couldn't simply reward your loyal playerbase with some free slots, especially when they were mentioned at every other Gaile Gray/Frog meeting, you had to take the next step and thoughtfully make a simple idea into a worse one.
I didn't know you could turn more storage space into a [email protected] idea, but I guess we've got exceptionally talented people devising the guild wars strategy.
Loviatar
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be of good cheer.they said more than a year ago that they would make small steps so if they had to backstep it wouldnt be a big disaster.
give them time to see how this is working and hopefully the next tab will be eveny items/dyes as those are standard items as well.
have hope
Meo Yeong
Personally I think they should just implement that you can put the large size backpacks in our inventory. Probaly a lot less work writing that too and then the storage would be huge enough and would not have to worry about future updates. Or even at least a bottom row of back packs. That would be equal too two mules in my opinion.
twicky_kid
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Blue text used to be on ALL runes. The color coding did not come till the rune trader.
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Most runes in the inventory were also converted to the new skin. For some reason it skipped mine
Go try to buy a blue text minor skin sup vigor rune. You will be paying a few 100k for it. If you can find one that is. Haven't seen any for sell in about 4 months.
lyra_song
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Others on the board are suggesting that we eagerly scrap up the leftovers ANET seems to have casually thrown to us. Others are saying that something is better than nothing.
To me, this is a total insult. Players that have been waiting for at LEAST half a year or a year for more storage space have been given a half arsed solution. It is the classic example of too little too late - and at this point it is more like a slap on the face than a salve to any of our problems. |
To say that this is AWESOME and the best thing ever is ridiculous, because its VERY limited.
To say that its useless and pointless is also ridiculous, because people WILL benefit from it, even if limited.
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To me, this is a beginning.
We must continue to give Anet feedback through our threads and show them the direction they must take.
It is naive to believe that this is the end and final solution.
I understand that you may have low expectations of Anet because of previous disappointments. But please do not be so harsh to judge so soon based on something that is not even implemented yet.
If this storage change is only a beginning and Anet is indeed testing new code to add more storage, i wouldn't expect any apologies from anyone here thats bashing Anet prematurely. But i would hope to expect some sort gratitude.
Loviatar
i consider anything add to be extra icing on the cale.i may not like this dab but i may love the next.
this tab will help me by about 12 slots which is nice.
they have said from the start that they would make a small addition to see how it works and build on that in small easily reversable steps if it goes wrong.
think event items/dyes tab next
possibly an armor/weapons/items tab later.
this is not the final solution it is just the beginning and i am happy to get it (when it comes)
YunSooJin
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No we should not be satisfied. But we should not look at this as if it was nothing. Either direction is ignorant and naive.
To say that this is AWESOME and the best thing ever is ridiculous, because its VERY limited. To say that its useless and pointless is also ridiculous, because people WILL benefit from it, even if limited. ----------------------- To me, this is a beginning. We must continue to give Anet feedback through our threads and show them the direction they must take. It is naive to believe that this is the end and final solution. I understand that you may have low expectations of Anet because of previous disappointments. But please do not be so harsh to judge so soon based on something that is not even implemented yet. If this storage change is only a beginning and Anet is indeed testing new code to add more storage, i wouldn't expect any apologies from anyone here thats bashing Anet prematurely. But i would hope to expect some sort gratitude. |
If this is indeed a first step in a series, then it would be nice to know so. As it stands I cannot sit here and simply assume ANET is coming up with more.
sigried
i just dont know why cant you all be happy for the current upgrades why dont you stopp complaning and start apreciatin for what anet has to offer.
i say that the material storage upgrade is more that enough
i say that the material storage upgrade is more that enough
Kijik Oni Hanryuu
god I was hoping this htread would just die, but it is still alive, please someone close it, open it back up when the subject has some relevance and before another flamewar gets started.
Omega X
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god I was hoping this htread would just die, but it is still alive, please someone close it, open it back up when the subject has some relevance and before another flamewar gets started.
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twicky_kid
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To close it would be irresponsible and only spawn more just like it. But you are free to leave the thread alone until you feel that you can handle it.
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Meo Yeong
MUHAHAHAHAHHA Power to the players!!!!!!!!
btw I like sandwiches.
K but in all seriousness It seems it is the same people that have issue. As far as I am concerned they are just opinions and let us not forget Its just a game!!!
btw I like sandwiches.
K but in all seriousness It seems it is the same people that have issue. As far as I am concerned they are just opinions and let us not forget Its just a game!!!
Vilaptca
I don't care if closing this big one spawns fifty little ones. I'll close those too.
Flame threads aren't allowed. Period. It doesn't help that ever other post that isn't a flame is completely off-topic. This thread needed to die anyways.
Vilaptca
Flame threads aren't allowed. Period. It doesn't help that ever other post that isn't a flame is completely off-topic. This thread needed to die anyways.
Vilaptca