The declining population of Tyria – worrisome - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

01 Jul 2006 at 15:52 - 1

Surely others have noticed this; missions and outposts with fewer people than there were last month, one or two districts where there used to be three or four, some places all but empty.

I for one am greatly disturb (as much as I can be over a game) about this. I recently started a mesmer in Tyria for the simple desire of getting some of the more desirable elites that cannot be found in Cantha. My hope was to do what I did with my monk; get into a new area, clear the missions, clear the quests, cap any elites there might be. I’ve been following this method thus far and I think I’ve made pretty good time now that I am at Bloodstone Fen. The catch; the place is nearly empty. This worries me; I don’t care so much about doing quests, but I consider mission completion and skill capping a must for this character and if I can’t complete missions, I can’t progress (seeing as I lack the funds to hire a runner and I’m not a big fan of the concept anyway).

One possible problem I see on the horizon is getting my two 15 attribute point quests completed. Months ago when I was playing with my monk I had a hard enough time getting a decent party for said quests and I would imagine it will be near impossible by the time I reach the desert.

Some possible solutions to this could be to enlist a few guildies to help me get to and cap the skills I want, thus spawning that ever annoying nagging sensation when I see the Tyria Mission Completion bar in my hero window or complete areas fogged out on the tyria map. Regardless, I fear soon this may become necessary if I wish to have a remotely successful character.

The reasoning for this decline in the population of Tyria is due to many things and is no mystery, but I wanted to share my concerns (not really asking for a fix as that would be moronic) and give others their chance to share theirs.

Thanks for listening to me rant

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

01 Jul 2006 at 15:56 - 2

I believe there is a very low amount of people in some areas of Tyria, but there are still generally plenty in the Desert and Southern Shiverpeaks area. Luckily there are some players that bring their characters to Cantha and try to clear as much of that area as possible.

AW Lore

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan

W/Mo

01 Jul 2006 at 15:56 - 3

as it is, right now is the dragon festival, and i have seen up to 83 districs on the shing jea monastery. so there is where most of your people are

once the event finishes, people will probably go back to the areas they liked to do, like prophecies.

oh and good luck with your mesmer, once you reach the desert it will be a bit harder to get into teams.

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

01 Jul 2006 at 16:00 - 4

On the plus side, most of those that are still hanging around in Tyria are experienced players looking for skill caps, or making new characters.

AndrewAtHome

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Leeds, UK

Trinity Of The Ascended [ToA]

R/

01 Jul 2006 at 16:02 - 5

The great thing about Tyria is that it's now pretty much a noob-free zone once you get past ascalon. I'll probably be creating my next PvE char there. Although most chars created in Tyria are these days are probably for farming purposes (I've seen lots of low level N/Mo's and Mo/W's in droks) - this really annoys me as they are not playing through the game properly, so this is a reason for fewer people doing missions.

Rent

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Darkness Within

Mo/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 16:12 - 6

Henchmen are wonderful.

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

01 Jul 2006 at 18:11 - 7

dont worry, n matter what event or game Prophecies will always remain my favorite. I just beat Factions then im back to tinkering around in Tyria simply because i find it more fun. Dont worry the missions no one are at can be henchied.

The Chimpster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

X-Universe [XU]

Mo/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 18:26 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewAtHome

The great thing about Tyria is that it's now pretty much a noob-free zone once you get past ascalon.

That is absolute testicles :P Having just taken my canthan monk through tyria I can safely say that all the good players (the players who play the game frequently and are competent) have bought factions. The players who don't really have a clue about how to play the game properly, the casual GW fan and those who don't have enough pocket money to buy the game (young and sometimes immature), are left in tyria.

There aren't many reasons at the moment to bring your character through tryia unless you're skint like me and want some free skills. Almost every elite is avaliable in factions and farming is certainly better in cantha.
Result? Lots of fustrating PUGS who get themselves killed and whinge at the "n00b" monk who didn't heal them enough.

There isn't enough to tempt players to tryia at the moment, and I doubt there ever will be. A-Net are going to want to market their new product, support it and work on chapter 3. All tryia can expect is a host of new greens and other "small" updates that require very little work but still give the impression of being fair.

But hey, I have factions, love cantha and am looking forward to chapter 3. Don't get me wrong A-net, I'm not having a go at you, I just don't think that tryia will ever be full again.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 18:38 - 9

I play prophecies, though I first create my character in Cantha. I noticed that there are less players in Tyria, but I couldn't care less. This is actually a good time about thinking to upgrade the hench a bit.

Ascalon is still a spamfest. Nothing new there.

Glitched

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 18:46 - 10

Well, I think the decline of players is mainly, at the moment, due to the dragon festival. That alone has pulled away many players, but they will be back soon. The biggest cause, though, is the fact that we now have 2 chapters. The latest continent will always have more players, but when people beat the newest campaign with a few characters, they will even out and play in both continents. I finished the game with my elementalist, and now I play on both continents. Its when we have 4 or 5 continents that we have to worry. Still, even then, guildies will always be willing to help.

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

01 Jul 2006 at 18:57 - 11

The good news (and answer that you don't want to hear) is that Mesmer primary is absolutely the easiest one to do the Tyrian missions with henchies. If you know how to direct them and make sure you stay alive (otherwise, the henchies go auto-stupid), you'll find the whole thing a breeze. I raised my Mes during a time when Mesmers were more reviled than Assassins are now, and the only missions I had some difficulty with were THK, Thirsty River and some of the RoF ones. Even those (with the exception of Thirsty River), I eventually succeeded with henchies, where I'd failed with the rare PuG that accepted me.

Bloodstone Fen and related areas will probably remain quiet because a lot of people are now running and skipping these areas, essentially routing from Lion's Arch to ToA to Sanctum Cay. There will be more population in later zones.

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

01 Jul 2006 at 19:04 - 12

Yea my warrior is having trouble finding groups in maguuma but he's almost out of there anbd the desrt has a nice amount of people so I don't have too much to worry about.

thunderpower

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Europe

KiSS

01 Jul 2006 at 19:17 - 13

I prefer hench in most of the quests. Of course, in some areas, their usual build is a bit weak. But at least you know 100% what they bring, so you can make your build so that you compensate the inconvenience.

And in case of henchies, you know how stupid they are. Except the occasional tarded behaviour, you can predict what they will do, I would say hench are 85% reliable. I can't say that about 70% of the self proclaimed "pro"-s that infest every outpost.

Erasculio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

01 Jul 2006 at 19:40 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vahn Roi

now that I am at Bloodstone Fen. The catch; the place is nearly empty. This worries me

The Bloodstone has been empty for a long time, even before Factions was released. Considering how many people just skip it (by going from ToA to Sanctum Cay, something easily done with henchies and fighting, so you don't even need a runner), the entire Maguuma area is usually left almost empty. When you reach Henge of Denravi, map to any of the other big cities and you'll see how it's by far the emptiest of them.

Erasculio

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

01 Jul 2006 at 20:18 - 15

The game will either bounce back up, or it will absolutely die when Chapter 3 comes out.

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

01 Jul 2006 at 20:21 - 16

It would be wise of Arenanet to locate chapter 3 a little closer to Tyria, and involve the two in some ways. Of course, that won't happen, because every chapter has to be standalone

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 20:24 - 17

Festival has nothing to do with it, Tyria has been dead for a long time now irrespective of the Festival.

Don't know why one poster said Southern Shiverpeaks is full of people. Over the past month or two I've had to map almost every one of those zones by myself due to the complete lack of other players there.

I don't believe the theory that "people will go back to Tyria". Hasn't happened yet, so what's to make one think that it will?

The problem with Tyria is there is no rewards for re-doing stuff you already completed there. No rewards = no motivation to play there.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

01 Jul 2006 at 21:11 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth`

It would be wise of Arenanet to locate chapter 3 a little closer to Tyria, and involve the two in some ways. Of course, that won't happen, because every chapter has to be standalone

That would be stupid. I would not pay for an next chapter that happens partly in Tyria. I already play in Tyria. Actually, Cantha is a major turn-off for me, but seems that the majority here doesn't feel that way.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

01 Jul 2006 at 21:18 - 19

chap3 needs to be completely different to have any chance of not flopping

silent kitty, im with you, thought factions was "poor" and i much prefer chap1

chap3 should be a "proper" stand alone game not like factions which was a glorified exspansion

Rusty Deth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Woodland Realm

Mo/N

01 Jul 2006 at 22:26 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rent

Henchmen are wonderful.

I think they're on strike now.

Anybody else notice they won't fight unless you call target? I had Talon come back to me after he killed something as if he was a pet. lol

All well, at least the minions like to kill things.

Ariana Of Damia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

♥ Aurelio Furor ♥

01 Jul 2006 at 23:49 - 21

I am sure it is only temporary

Probably a lot of Factions Fever atm, especially because of the event

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

02 Jul 2006 at 01:13 - 22

I personally haven't seen as many players in tyria as there were when chapter 1 came out for several months. A lot of people played during halloween and wintersday, but otherwise, since about september or october a lot of people are only in the main hubs (ascalon, lion's arch, drok's, denravi and amnoon to a lesser degree) and there are 1-2 sparsely populated districts in the rest of the towns. Maguuma is almost completely deserted anywhere I went and anytime I checked, except for denravi, which had a decent amount of districts and people in it. A lot of people stopped playing as often since they ran out of stuff to do, or went over to cantha since that came out, or want to skip as much of the game as possible to get ascended and get drok's armor and then farm things. Cantha will get that way too, so I guess in summary it's best to get on the bandwagon whenever a new game comes out for people who enjoy grouping with other players, since there will be less people to play with later on.

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

02 Jul 2006 at 05:10 - 23

Dragon Festival is the drain at the moment. I just brought my Cantha mesmer over to Prophecies, did all the missions from Lion's Arch up to Thunderhead Keep with player groups. There were groups everywhere during prime time EST, even with the festival, didn't take me long to get in.

As for the extra point quests, you can hench both of them if you have to. I have with four other characters. But I doubt you'll have to.

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

02 Jul 2006 at 05:25 - 24

The only time I found the the Maguuma busy was during the release of the game back in May to August 05 after that it declined.It is not call Boring Denrvi for nothing it has always been empty and there aren't to many solo farming spots.

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 06:08 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

chap3 needs to be completely different to have any chance of not flopping

silent kitty, im with you, thought factions was "poor" and i much prefer chap1

chap3 should be a "proper" stand alone game not like factions which was a glorified exspansion

Even if ch3 is better than factions or worst..it's killing tyria more, more they added STANDALONE expansions the more they are killing Tyria and Cantha, and adding greens like they did in Tyria to keep ppl connected to it doesn't help..ppl farm what they want and leave it again.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 06:16 - 26

I for one am taking my sin over to tyria, assassinating things is fun, I also take my necro back to his homeland every now and then to give my flesh golem a run, watching the FG drop a devourer wiht 200+ damage is funny every time. Tyria will eventually fill back up, and please don't turn this into an Anet sucks no more chapters flame fest.

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

02 Jul 2006 at 06:31 - 27

It's not just Tyria. Vizunah Square is a ghost town, and there are literally NO MONKS in Arborstone for some reason...

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 06:33 - 28

Arborstone never did have monks X.X

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 06:33 - 29

If you think Tyria is empty, wait til you see the southern areas of cantha...

I'm pretty sure that if you go to the big hubs, ascalon city, droks, lions arch, that there will be a lot of people.
Just like kaineng, shing jea, hzh and cavalon.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 07:20 - 30

Funny thing is that with each new addon chapter you get and merge your keys with you are effectively backpaying for old content that nobody wants anyway. Clever huh?

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 07:24 - 31

I've seen people come and go in Guild Wars I guess for some ppl the game is just boring!..lol and about the declining population....there probably all Stalker Haras's basement!

Stalker Haras

I Didn't Do It

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

02 Jul 2006 at 07:30 - 32

What the...no their not! wait...who let you out of the basement!

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Jul 2006 at 07:32 - 33

i used trixxxie hax tu get out.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 07:34 - 34

lol you two in the same guild or summat?

Stalker Haras

I Didn't Do It

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

02 Jul 2006 at 07:37 - 35

No we just know each other from in game

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 07:39 - 36

lol I know a couple people in here in game too, being I am in one of the larger lux alliance BkBd Blackblades FTW.... Oh crap I am talking to my keeper, I'll go back to the basement sir. *runs away*

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

the 7th level of HELL! J/K Somewhere in GW assassinating things

[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

A/

02 Jul 2006 at 07:45 - 37

God Damn Hacker Persistant Little SOB

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 07:58 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Deth

I think they're on strike now.

Anybody else notice they won't fight unless you call target? I had Talon come back to me after he killed something as if he was a pet. lol

All well, at least the minions like to kill things.

I've noticed that too. I would be doing a quest and the henchies just stand there. The enemies dont bug the henchies untill i die because i am the only thing acually attacking. Sometimes, the only way the henchies will fight is if A) i call the target or B) i die and then suddenly the henchies are like "wtf? he died? Y? o there are enemies nearby! Attack!" BTW they dont accually say that.That is just wat the henchies seem to be thinking. (just puttin taht in so someone isnt like "OMG ur stupid! henhcies dont talk!")

And even before factions there were someplaces taht no one was ever at. I cant emagine how many of those places there are now in tyria. They always happened to be mission places too... >_< Will the same happen to cantha, once chapter 3 comes out? I hope not... THe GW employe ppl should make henchies smarter at least so u can bring them with you and accually play the same way you would if you were in a player group. I sorta want to go back to tyria for a little, but the only thing preventing me is having to do hard missions with henchies, enspecially now that since aobut the start of the festival, they seem more useless tahn before...

OMG is it now impossible to get a good non-runer group in the desert missions? It was alredy hard for me to find a good non-runner group before factions... >_<

As for doing the atribute point quests, I never had trouble doing them, and i always did them with henchies, so as long as henchies get at least as smart as they were before, I dont see anyone haveing trouble with them.

zakaria

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

02 Jul 2006 at 09:54 - 39

Less population of GW in general due to more than half of online players spamming in WTB/WTS in large cities because the lack of auction house.Give them auction house then you will see more active players want to do quests and missions.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

02 Jul 2006 at 10:03 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakaria

Less population of GW in general due to more than half of online players spamming in WTB/WTS in large cities because the lack of auction house.Give them auction house then you will see more active players want to do quests and missions.

People who spam WTS and WTB all day aren't playing the game. They are either farmers, scammers or both.
An auction house would simply give them more time to play something else and check the auction once a day.