Ring of Fire- Henchable ?

Aisius

Aisius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Melbourne , Australia

Crazy Clan[CRAZ]

W/

Well I'm really keen to get some missions completed in Fire Islands and try capping Eviscerate for my warrior. Trouble is there is hardly ever any players online in the Ring of fire to group with to get it done.

I tried twice going with henchman but found it extremely difficult once I get passed the first lava pool. They seem to want to fight in the lava or doen't seem to mind that there standing in it.

Is it even possible to complete the mission with henchman ? Or am I destined to be standing around for hours on end hoping a group will come my way to complete with me?

If anyone has any brilliant plan to complete this mission that hench can pull off please let me know.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

I've done the last mission which is Hell's Precipice if I remember and we did it with 5 people. 2 Left, one was an afk freeloader, we had a warrior with a FDS , 2 monks, me as a SS/Heal Support Necro with Well of Blood, and my brother was a solid Warrior build with an Icy Axe.

We still won. When we fought the lych all but 2 people died, and one used Rebirth to rez us all and continue killing him. I couldn't believe we won. People complained it was so hard but we did it under the worst possible circumstances possible. At that point I'd rather have henchies but we still pulled thru.

Mister Overhill

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Tampa, Florida

Sticks and Stones

R/Rt

My R/Mo did ROF with all henchmen and a pet, in one try. Lot of deaths, including my own, but took my time and got through it.

Artisan

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

I haven't actually finished it with henchies, but I seem to have more success going through the front gate rather than going around back. Henchies+Inferno Imps=death.

NeoSaber

NeoSaber

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Guildless For Life

R/N

I've done Ring of Fire with henchmen many times, most recently was with my assassin.

I don't know of any 'magic bullet' that works in this mission, it often is just a meat grinder. Make sure to make up for whatever henchmen lack. If they get killed a lot, bring a re-usable res. If they aren't doing enough damage, make sure you are. If you need to interrupt someone, make sure you have the interrupts.

That first lava pit is usually the biggest hurdle I have to over come. Depending on the monster spawns I handle it one of two ways. If the Ettins are very close to the lava's edge, I try to pull them with a longbow. Fire one shot and back off. Hopefully you get everyone back out of the lava before you have to fight. If the ettins are a little back from the lava, I rush them. I don't stop running when I reached them though, I keep pushing until I've gone far enough that the henchmen shouldn't all be in the lava any more. (just don't go far enough to aggro the jade/mursaat) Either way a few henchmen are probably going to get killed, but that's what they are there for.

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

The missions in the Fire Islands are henchable. I have made it through with both a warrior and a ranger primary while going after 100% for my Tyrian map as well as doing the bonuses. As for other primaries, I cannot say. I should know soon for my monk and my necro.

Aisius

Aisius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Melbourne , Australia

Crazy Clan[CRAZ]

W/

OK thanks I'll give those suggestions a try.

Jedimagician

Jedimagician

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

or... you could just farm at sorrows furnace and cap evis off tanzit razorstone..

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aisius
Well I'm really keen to get some missions completed in Fire Islands...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedimagician
or... you could just farm at sorrows furnace and cap evis off tanzit razorstone.. This will, of course, not lead to the complesion of the Ring of Fire mission...

Ultimate Sacrifice

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I completed Hell's Precipice with full henchies (me being a glyph nuker) could've done the bonus too but I wanted to get the mission over with.

Mr.H.Mishima

Mr.H.Mishima

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Summit of Human Evolution

W/

I did it with hench as a W/R. Bring winter. I capped Eviscerate and HB and one other skill I can't remember now on that time through. Just take your time and pull, pull, pull. Learn the patrols as well. It will pay off.

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Rushing in the missions is a Dead end for your life. Maybe this tactic is long but, take your time and try to know the map at the same time to know the patrols, the ennemis and more.

NekoZ

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Long Island

So Goth We Crap [Bats]

Beat every RoF mission on my Ranger with rarely any deaths. So much easier and less hassle then with real players.

Aisius

Aisius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Melbourne , Australia

Crazy Clan[CRAZ]

W/

Thanks again for the input.

I'll likely continue with the story as I'm keen to finish the prophercies as I have done with the factions. I have other chars a monk and ranger that will likely follow once I can get a good percentage of skills for my warrior.

The sarrows furnace area kinda scares me to be honest, lots of hostiles, dwarves and necro guys. I tried to run some of droks to camp and encountered alot of them

I'll certainly try and pay more attention to patrols for the mission and try and remain calm when I fail. From the last run I have to go buy a new mouse having destroyed the scroll function from excessive hench hate.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

PM me tomorrow night and I'll come give you a hand.

Aurorah Winterfox

Seef II

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

After 1st tower: kill ettin bosses for morale - you'll need it.
1st lava pool: kill the ettins (they're actually not that bad), sac the henchies on the tower and run for the cutscene.
Front door: liberal use of rebirth works.
Back door: turn around and go thru the front.

Kaldor Meshekal

Kaldor Meshekal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Rt/N

Check my post in the Screenshots exposition. It's very possible. (Although my post is of Abaddon's Mouth....but I have henched RoF too. And Hell's Precipice.)

Ring of Fire is not too difficult to hench with a little common sense. Just remember the following:

1. Do not rush.
2. Ctrl+Space is your friend.
3. Don't die in the radius of an active Seal.
4. Pull, lure, and single out bosses if possible (Especially the monk one).
5. When it comes to the Lava pools, wait until you and the henchies are fully regenerated. Then cross the pool using the quickest route, and don't stop moving forward until the henchies are out. This can be difficult as a warrior if there is a mob on the other end, as where the henchies stand is based on where you are. Or you could try waiting, sometimes the Ettins at the first pool will attack the Seal, making it oh so much easier.
6. Good luck

And the best thing about doing it with henchmen? They won't leave.


But hey, if you still can't do it, and your online when I am, gimme a whisper and I might just come and help you. IGN: Kaldor Meshekal / Sarissa Lorren.


edit. Also, I should mention another tip: whenever you see the henchies are low on health (way under half) or the healers /cynn is not casting much (low on energy), retreat from the fight and allow regen.

Kaldor Meshekal

Kaldor Meshekal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Rt/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seef II
Back door: turn around and go thru the front. Unless you're a Mesmer with some interrupts that's sound advice

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaldor Meshekal
Unless you're a Mesmer with some interrupts that's sound advice Even with interrupts, the lava imps are still a challenge because there are so many and they don't always cast at the same time.

For the average GW player, Ring of Fire is not worth bothering to hench. I've tried this mission a multitude of times with 2/8 player/hench and had little success (several months ago). Even tried it with just my ranger with the same crappy luck. Getting the first 2 seals open at the front gate is the easy part, getting inside with few deaths is the hard part.

That said, I did recently hench the bonus with a great deal of patience and luck. Even went through the "easier" back route once I got past all of the seals for the sake of exploration and got a fair bit of it revealed. Took Cynn and Eve a fair bit of time to break down the seal to the back route, though.

Naxohs Seralna

Naxohs Seralna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Norway

House of the Silver Phoenix (HSP)

E/R

Did RoF and bonus with my warrior + 7 hench not long ago. The road to success? DO NOT BRING CYNN !

IMO, the seals are the most challenging foes. Approach them carefully and be ready to run when things get rough.

Don't do what Vizier Khilbron says...you go for that front door! End of discussion! Bring a longbow for luring, though.

The Darkstars

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

When you get to the lava pit, drag the henchmen thru and out of the lava as quickly as possible. Fight the Ettins without aggroing the Mursaat boss (yes, it's possible). Rest/regen for a bit, then fight the boss without aggroing the Jades (yes, it's possible).

Even though he's pretty weak otherwise, bring Dunham, as he has Drain Enchantment, which comes in handy when fighting Coventina the Matron (Aura of Faith).

Don't rely on energy-based skills when fighting around the towers.

Alternate lava pit plan is: Sprint past the Ettins, boss and Jades, trigger cutscene.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

I've soloed (without henchmen) the Ring of Fire mission with my W/Mo, but can't quite do either Abaddon's Mouth or Hell's Precipice yet.

Guitary Boy

Guitary Boy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

FhS

W/

The first 2 are, but hells pricipe isnt. If you do get to the litch he will massicre henchies, i have done this twice. They will get teleported into the lava and will limp around in circles, then healer henchies will then walk right into the lava and limp around in circles. Its not pretty

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guitary Boy
The first 2 are, but hells pricipe isnt. If you do get to the litch he will massicre henchies, i have done this twice. They will get teleported into the lava and will limp around in circles, then healer henchies will then walk right into the lava and limp around in circles. Its not pretty Its possible and easy to kill the Lich with henchies. If I haven't deleted my pics, I will show that its possible to hench the 3 missions of Ring of Fire.

Bartuc Galadwor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Alberta, Canada

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]; [SMS] Alliance

W/Mo

Don't go the back way with henchies, it's WAY harder.
Just take your time and slowly pull Jade and mursaat away from the front door, then drop the seals. After the door opens, let the henchie monks regen some energy, then pull the Jade and Mursaat from there too, though watch out, there could be a couple patrols thats will move down towards the seals. After thats done yor going to want to kill the left most seal first then the right.
Rest of the mission is easy. Good luck.

Aisius

Aisius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Melbourne , Australia

Crazy Clan[CRAZ]

W/

thanks again all

I finished Ring of fire with hench and managed to get a group with real people for abaddons mouth mission.
Capped Eviscerate on my warrior yesterday after much fun dancing with henchmen in firey pits.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aisius
thanks again all

I finished Ring of fire with hench and managed to get a group with real people for abaddons mouth mission.
Capped Eviscerate on my warrior yesterday after much fun dancing with henchmen in firey pits. Grats. Once you get used to henchies, they'll be your best friends.

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Grats. Once you get used to henchies, they'll be your best friends. Until you start playing Factions

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saphatorael
Until you start playing Factions Factions is henchable. I went up to temple with henchies, then started using PUGs until I got to HzH, from there on I used henchies until raisu, then I henched Shiro.

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

Factions is very henchable. I completed the chapter 4 days after the preorder event opened. Doing missions with others was just not an option. The first PUG I used was for the final mission. Once I get all of my characters through, I will go back and try beating Shiro with henchman.

Long live the Henchmen!

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Factions is henchable. I went up to temple with henchies, then started using PUGs until I got to HzH, from there on I used henchies until raisu, then I henched Shiro. Yup, very much henchable. Started my ritualist right after Factions came out and I wanted to take my own time to sightseeing and whatnot while going through missions, so the idea of joining PUGs that rush forward didn't appeal to me.
Ended up henching all the missions in Factions this way. Got no masters from it, but it did get me through the game.

Aisius

Aisius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Melbourne , Australia

Crazy Clan[CRAZ]

W/

I love playing with henchmen more on my monk, he's Mo/Me.

At first it was hard but I read here somewhere about using Shift+Control+Space and its been really easy ever since.
It has required some positioning at times as I need to get the mob at least a yard or so outside my aggro bubble, once I'm in the battle any aggro I get I can usually just call them to the target again or run around till I get the hench between me and the mob.

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saphatorael
Until you start playing Factions Even I havent tries the Kurzick side for now. Gyala Hatchery is very henchable without the trick in Wiki which I never noticed during that time. And no wonder why my friend and I call "Shiro The Weak" at the end after "Boring Palace" mission.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saphatorael
Until you start playing Factions I'd like to introduce my friend, Erys Vasburg. I don't think you've met.

Loki Seiguro

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

IGN: Scarlet Test Ace

We play Isketch in [HoH]

E/

it is henchable if you can infuse your henchies in the mission.

murrsat missions are ezer imo if you are a ,monk and can infuse your henchies

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
I'd like to introduce my friend, Erys Vasburg. I don't think you've met. Lol, Erys Vasburg is really The mesmer hench if we compare the others.