has anybody else noticed this?
Van the Warrior
people post lame and idiotic "offers" for items on the ventari's SELL page.....*sigh* if anybody else has noticed the spike in brain dead buyers tell me im not the only one seeing it
Lasareth
Hard to know a price if the seller doesn't set a starting point. Otherwise, it's stupid NOT to bid low on an item with no floor.
Van the Warrior
its not that its just people post nice items for example
Seller: Posts +15% above 50% half moon Gold (obviously atleast 100k)
Replies to Post: None
Brain Dead People: "um hows 1k nobody is bidding"
tell me u havent seen many of these go around even in Lions Arch
Seller: Posts +15% above 50% half moon Gold (obviously atleast 100k)
Replies to Post: None
Brain Dead People: "um hows 1k nobody is bidding"
tell me u havent seen many of these go around even in Lions Arch
Hookecho
Something is only worth what that person is willing to pay for it.
I think people are tiring of the over inflated prices....so they bid low.
If thats a noob offer to you, fine, but your just going to have to work harder to sell your wares I guess.
I think people are tiring of the over inflated prices....so they bid low.
If thats a noob offer to you, fine, but your just going to have to work harder to sell your wares I guess.
Magick Catastroph
If a bid is too low.. dont sell. Calling people idiots and breaking the rules of the forums only makes you look bad.
Minwanabi
In terms of fansites and numbers alone, GWG gets far fewer, so you should keep that in mind. At any time at GWonline, just for example, you'll see 200-300 people viewing the main forum, whereas here it's rare to get over 80. Not saying that's bad or anything, but you want sheer numbers when you're trying to sell something.
Principa Discordia
I wonder more about the intelligence of people who like to sell items for over 100k myself, but I guess I'm a "dum n00b" or somesuch for not liking inflation and price-gouging.
SJG
It's the nature of a market economy, if no-one wants to buy it at 100K it's not worth 100K.
What would actually be braindead would be to offer 100K when no-one else has shown an interest.
What would actually be braindead would be to offer 100K when no-one else has shown an interest.
Ultimate_Gaara
im not calling anyone stupid, but who would pay 100k for one item? when i sell items im happy to get anything over the merchant sell price
PieXags
I don't need money unless I want to buy something, I'm settin' pretty nice now but it used to be when I needed money (say for the 15k armor) I'd sell whatever I could for the amount that I needed. If I needed 60k.
Heh...want a gold half-moon for 60k? Heheh...yeah...
Typically though I won't sell something for more than around 10-15k, just don't like too.
Heh...want a gold half-moon for 60k? Heheh...yeah...
Typically though I won't sell something for more than around 10-15k, just don't like too.
Synncial77
I'm personally tired of people advertising their items and not including a price. If they don't specify a price then I'm inclined to "bid" whatever I feel like. If 1000 is too low then that should have been specified...otherwise, no one has the right to complain.
Ollj
i have NO problem with people that start facing the fact that more farming lowers the demand of anyone in that items, and so the price should go down.
its not the "braindead" people that are stupid, its the farmers that think their prices are stable and realistic.
its not the "braindead" people that are stupid, its the farmers that think their prices are stable and realistic.
Ultimate_Gaara
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Originally Posted by Synncial77
I'm personally tired of people advertising their items and not including a price. If they don't specify a price then I'm inclined to "bid" whatever I feel like. If 1000 is too low then that should have been specified...otherwise, no one has the right to complain.
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well if they dont put a price i guess they just mean anything over what the merchant is willing to give them, anything over that they cant complain about
but you cant reall blame people for not leaving prices because no everyone is a "pro" trader and sometimes people dont get replys in the PC topics, or maybe some people are worried they will make their starting price too high and they wont sell it... who knows
Anarkii
Unless the seller has specified a starting bid, no bid can be considered idiotic.
BladeX3I
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=30254
When you post stuff like this you shouldn't expect 100k bids.
When you post stuff like this you shouldn't expect 100k bids.
Watersong
Hehehehe...
I think this thread backfired on the OP.
I think this thread backfired on the OP.
=HT=Ingram
no I have never spent over 10k for anything in the game from another person. I have spend up to 35K from a NPC. and that was for the Superior Vigor and Absorption runes. Beyond that, anyone spending over 100k (max you can hold on person) are just fools, and they are now discovering the truth of things. people selling stuff for those kinds of prices are running out of suckers to con. Thus they are being FORCED to lower their prices for things to reasonable levels, or quit selling all together (even better). Classic supply and demand curve. This is what efficient gold sinks do to an economy. when gold is pulled out of a game, it becomes more valuable, and thus is able to buy more for the gold piece. Again I always compare to a yen and a dollar. Buying a loaf a bread cost 20,000 yen, but only $5.00 in the US. Same item value, but different value of currency.
This is what is happening to the market in guildwars. Because gold has been effectively been pulled from the game with NPCs, gold is getting harder to get, and becoming worth more in the game. Thus prices are dropping for items. Also people can look at fair market prices at the rune and dye traders. The next step is the weapon crafter gauging upgrades and base value of weapons. That is the next step. But it is becoming clear people are finally becoming aware when something is a unreasonable price, and when some things are a bargain. Congratulations we have come a long way to get to this point.
I give a firm Thank you to ArenaNet for trying to make the game a better place to play without the scammers and inflators ruining it for others. I'm more then happy to sell things to a NPC rather then see it getting sold to some poor unsuspecting person for more then its truly worth.
This is what is happening to the market in guildwars. Because gold has been effectively been pulled from the game with NPCs, gold is getting harder to get, and becoming worth more in the game. Thus prices are dropping for items. Also people can look at fair market prices at the rune and dye traders. The next step is the weapon crafter gauging upgrades and base value of weapons. That is the next step. But it is becoming clear people are finally becoming aware when something is a unreasonable price, and when some things are a bargain. Congratulations we have come a long way to get to this point.
I give a firm Thank you to ArenaNet for trying to make the game a better place to play without the scammers and inflators ruining it for others. I'm more then happy to sell things to a NPC rather then see it getting sold to some poor unsuspecting person for more then its truly worth.
Mak
The bow had -1 health regen; how is that godly. It is only worth about 3K.
Kuku Monk
You see the little thing in the item description that says Value. I refuse to pay 100 times what that says for the item. Rediculous...plain and simple.
Paladin_Adoni
Thats hilarious.
nice bow. you know had I seen your no idiots please. I would have offered 50g and gone up in increments of 5g just to piss you off.
how much did you think you would get for that anyway?
and I know the reason you didnt specify a starting amount, buy out amount etc is because you were hoping to sell it for a rediculous price and rip someone off.
how lame.
nice bow. you know had I seen your no idiots please. I would have offered 50g and gone up in increments of 5g just to piss you off.
how much did you think you would get for that anyway?
and I know the reason you didnt specify a starting amount, buy out amount etc is because you were hoping to sell it for a rediculous price and rip someone off.
how lame.
Drakron
I must missed the memo ... since when did 1 plat became worthless?
Its easy to get a price of a item using the NPC trader using the same formula that its used for materials, merchants rarely give 1 plat for a item and people expect "serious bids" to be over 10 plat?
Those people must be the same that compained about the rune and rare materials trader, they must really enjoy to hold the market hostage with very high prices.
Its easy to get a price of a item using the NPC trader using the same formula that its used for materials, merchants rarely give 1 plat for a item and people expect "serious bids" to be over 10 plat?
Those people must be the same that compained about the rune and rare materials trader, they must really enjoy to hold the market hostage with very high prices.
Aniewiel
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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia
I wonder more about the intelligence of people who like to sell items for over 100k myself, but I guess I'm a "dum n00b" or somesuch for not liking inflation and price-gouging.
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1. Go exploit some unsuspecting person IG.
2. Lower your price expectations a bit and sell at a nice profit but at a reasonable price.
It is perfectly acceptible to make a profit on your item. But anything over 1gp IS profit, isn't it? If you found it while battling monsters, whatever you sell it for is pure profit.
If there is a minimu price that you require to sell an item, STATE IT. You might also state something to the effect of "seller reserves the right not to sell an item". That said, don't call people names if they're bidding under your UNSTATED lowest price.
Lalii
I personally refuse to sell anything over 15k. Thats a personal limit and has not yet even been reached. I think the prices people expect are ridiculous and sellers sometimes need to get their heads out of the clouds. Just because someone doesn't want to be ripped off doesn't make them a braindead n00b, it makes them smart and indicates that they are more interested in playing the game for fun that fake money. If I get an awesome item that I'm not going to use then I'll sell it for very little so someone else can enjoy it, thats what the game is for after all. I prefer to see people happy that see my storage full of money.
salja Wachi
lmao van is famous for posts like this.
i for one love to follow him through the forums just to see what he says next.
as far as that bow goes 6k-8k max is all he is gonna get
i for one love to follow him through the forums just to see what he says next.
as far as that bow goes 6k-8k max is all he is gonna get
Aniewiel
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Originally Posted by Lalii
I personally refuse to sell anything over 15k. Thats a personal limit and has not yet even been reached.
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I wish the Guru folks would consider two sales forums:
1. Auction House: where people can bid things up to ridiculous limits.
2. Set Price Sales: where sellers SET a price and sell items at that price (or less if they choose) to the first person who replies.
The #2 option would take the proverbial starch out of the sellers on #1's shorts by actually selling similar or like items for reasonable prices. It also might help get the OOG and/or IG markets back into normal range.
Lalii
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Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Not being a "farmer" and not EVER having enough gold around, I have to think long and hard about how much I spend. I can't tell you how grateful I am for people like you, Lalii, that allow us "poor folk" to own something...not necessarily UBER but plenty DECENT enough.
I wish the Guru folks would consider two sales forums: 1. Auction House: where people can bid things up to ridiculous limits. 2. Set Price Sales: where sellers SET a price and sell items at that price (or less if they choose) to the first person who replies. The #2 option would take the proverbial starch out of the sellers on #1's shorts by actually selling similar or like items for reasonable prices. It also might help get the OOG and/or IG markets back into normal range. |
Makkert
seeing the auction he held, and reading the first post, this thread is quite humorous.
Havoc of PhoeniX
The whole trading thing wouldn't be very good if you tried to sell something to a Merchant and he said "Lol, No 15k plzkthx"
Anyway it really annoys me and makes me laugh at the same time to see people selling things for excessive prices. For instance, the other day i saw someone selling a 10/10 Sundering Bow string, i offered 2k, seeing as it was only an Upgrade even though it was max. He PM'd back to laugh at me, and said he had a current offer of 60k and would probably get 100k+ for this one string.
I just laughed at him.
OK it's quite rare but what he was asking was just laughable.
Anyway it really annoys me and makes me laugh at the same time to see people selling things for excessive prices. For instance, the other day i saw someone selling a 10/10 Sundering Bow string, i offered 2k, seeing as it was only an Upgrade even though it was max. He PM'd back to laugh at me, and said he had a current offer of 60k and would probably get 100k+ for this one string.
I just laughed at him.
OK it's quite rare but what he was asking was just laughable.
Aniewiel
I am absolutely serious when I say there should be TWO selling forums:
1. Auction
2. Set Price
Those of us who believe in equity of trade would use the latter. Those who are price gouging exploiters will use the first.
1. Auction
2. Set Price
Those of us who believe in equity of trade would use the latter. Those who are price gouging exploiters will use the first.
Defender Of Orth
I wouldve bought it but ive only been a member for about 30 minutes 
(the bow, not the string)
(the bow, not the string)
Xonic
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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior
its not that its just people post nice items for example
Seller: Posts +15% above 50% half moon Gold (obviously atleast 100k) Replies to Post: None Brain Dead People: "um hows 1k nobody is bidding" tell me u havent seen many of these go around even in Lions Arch |
If you think it worths at least 100k than start the bid at 100k, or ask for 120k or something and leave some room for negitation.
If you don't say anything then it means you are open for any bid.
Simple as that.
Sir Skullcrasher
currently, im selling stuff on the board and only got one bid! Is it true that the higher the requirement for an item, the less chance that it will get any bids?