Editing the Scribe?

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Shyft the Pyro
Shyft the Pyro
Wilds Pathfinder
#1
I love the content, but there's just too many errors in this week's issue (http://www.guildwars.com/community/t...ibe-060707.php) for me to enjoy it. Was it rushed? Does the Scribe need an editor?

I'm both fishing for an 'official' answer and want to know people's thoughts
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#2
The Celestial Ministry is The Scribe. They don't want you to know more.

Imperial Cantha is watching you!
Gaile Gray
Gaile Gray
ArenaNet
#3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
I love the content, but there's just too many errors in this week's issue (http://www.guildwars.com/community/t...ibe-060707.php) for me to enjoy it. Was it rushed? Does the Scribe need an editor?

I'm both fishing for an 'official' answer and want to know people's thoughts
What are you specific concerns? The documents are edited by two professional editors. Errors happen, of course, or sometimes are not caught, even with careful attention to detail. But I'd like example of actual errors (as opposed to personal disagreements with opinion or differences of style). If you can provide those, it would be quite helpful.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
What are you specific concerns? The documents are edited by two professional editors. Errors happen, of course, or sometimes are not caught, even with careful attention to detail. But I'd like example of actual errors (as opposed to personal disagreements with opinion or differences of style). If you can provide those, it would be quite helpful.
I, as a grammar Nazi, noticed one thing:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribe
We valiantly guarded the Celestial Essence that they coveted and after a furious fight repelled their wicked army.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
We valiantly guarded the Celestial Essence that they coveted and, after a furious fight, we repelled their wicked army.

Commas keep the world spinning.
bigwig
bigwig
Krytan Explorer
#5
yeah but does the lack of commas really keep anyone from enjoying it?
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwig
yeah but does the lack of commas really keep anyone from enjoying it?
Ask the OP.
anti_z3r0
anti_z3r0
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I, as a grammar Nazi, noticed one thing:






Commas keep the world spinning.
Those are unnecessary commas.
Zinger314
Zinger314
Debbie Downer
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by anti_z3r0
Those are unnecessary commas.
"after a furious fight" is an adverbial phrase between two ideas, hence you need the commas for accurate seperation. Plus, it sounds better. Much better.

However, there is a different method if you are comma-phobic:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
We valiantly guarded the Celestial Essence that they coveted and repelled their wicked army after a furious fight.
However, you lose the tension with that method. Henceforth, it's better to keep the commas.
F
Former Ruling
Grotto Attendant
#9
The top thing teachers have to count off for in papers is the overuse of commas.....Its like some popular way of writing.

WHY does everyone think that every sentence needs 2-3 commas?

You need a comma to split ideas like in your example only if the split off portion has alittle to nothing to do with the point of the sentence.

Like: Jimmy, a sailor, likes Coca Cola.

Him being a sailor or not has nothing to do with the main idea of his love of cola.

This is about the only time that you'll ever have to split a sentence with commas.

The sentence you dislike is fine. The furious fight adds to the main point of the sentence.
E
Eripens Vitae
Academy Page
#10
A mistake i noticed was that one certain build had the Lightning Surge elite as well as the Spiteful Spirit elite.
Sounds like hax :P
S
Synxernal
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
My teacher gave us a lesson that he wanted us to use MORE commas, such as in the format that Zinger314 presented us.
Branskins
Branskins
Frost Gate Guardian
#12
There are unnecessary commas...

And the commas make it look horribly unprofessional. The break caused by the commas makes the sentence lack any kind of fluid-ness.

If the sentence somehow started with When... then you would need a comma after the clause. And if I rememeber correctly an adverbial clause at the beginning requires a comma, if one appears at the end it is optional.
Bale_Shadowscar
Bale_Shadowscar
Wilds Pathfinder
#13
Quote:
"The battle against the demonic invaders was all but won,"
Doesn't this mean that we didn't win?
Branskins
Branskins
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
You have to look at the context. The battle was still going on. The emepror came to award people for defeating them when all of a sudden they come and siege the town!

I believe it is saying we thought it was won... but there was a lot more to do still.

Or I could be completely wrong! It is summer and I tend to forget grammar :O
J
James the crazy
Ascalonian Squire
#15
this is slightly off-topic but...
Quote:
Fire Magic is most effective combined with skills that slow or otherwise prevent your opponent from leaving your range. The Warrior's Hamstring skill..
ZOMG HAMSTORM!
J
J snukka
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
OMG who cares. It's a scribe that people read for fun and get enjoyment out of it. OOOOO commas this commas that. How pathetic can one be to complain that grammar in a Scribe is ruining their enjoyment of reading it. It is optional to read it. 99.8% of the people reading the scribe aren't grammar freaks so why does this matter. This thread is pointless. Don't read the Scribe again if it bothers you.

BTW I loved it, even if I don't agree with what was said about the elementalist class. But you don't see me making a thread about that.
A
Across The Battle
Krytan Explorer
#17
I got a 47 in English class so I didn't notice any screw ups. -_-
Shyft the Pyro
Shyft the Pyro
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
Alright Gaile, here is the list of things that bother me in the latest Scribe. Note that while I am not a "professional editor" I have been editing a literary magazine at my college for over a year now, so I hope that counts for something.

Quote:
We valiantly guarded the Celestial Essence...
This is a factual error that many have made even during the festival. The item we had to bring to Imperial Sorcerers was called a Celestial Charge, not Celestial Essence. I'm guessing most people were familiar with the Celestial Essences that drop in the Nahpui Quarter mission and only glanced over the items, believing them to be identical.

Quote:
Elementalists often can use just as many skills from their secondary profession as from their first
The above sentence should end with as from their primary, or have secondary replaced with second for consistency.

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Earth Magic is often classified as "support magic" not often used for direct damage
I personally dislike often being used so often
I'd change the sentence to read Earth Magic is often classified as "support magic" and rarely used for direct damage.

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I do not know how many she gave out in the end, but, but such magnanimity is a true sign of greatness
Here the first , but should be removed, so the sentence reads I do not know how many she gave out in the end, but such magnanimity is a true sign of greatness.

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Thanks are in order for the festival-goers mentioned here and all the other kind souls whom did not have the privilege to meet this week.
The above is missing an I between whom and did. The sentence should read Thanks are in order for the festival-goers mentioned here and all the other kind souls whom I did not have the privilege to meet this week.

Looks like the "professional editors" are making a few too many editing mistakes to keep their jobs. Would you mind firing them both and letting me take over at half the pay as an "unprofessional" editor?
Shyft the Pyro
Shyft the Pyro
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The Celestial Ministry is The Scribe. They don't want you to know more.

Imperial Cantha is watching you!
Make a new Tyrian character and watch the initial cutscene. What's this? Who is it standing next to King Adelbern? Why, it's out beloved Scribe

I refuse to believe such a person - who's been in the presence of kings and emperors - would allow themselves to be recruited by the Canthan bureaucracy
Two April Mornings
Two April Mornings
No Luck No Time No Money
#20
pretty good points shyft