Axe warrior build

Ok then, let's try this, you do Frenzy, I'll do Battle Rage {E}, you unload your adrenaline spikes, I'll unload MINE... I have no idea what this means...but the earlier point of tigris and me still holds. If you are going to adrenaline spike someone you use frenzy, period. No ifs and buts, if you want to spike someone, you want to unload your adrenaline as fast as you can. It takes 50% longer to adren spike someone if you are using battle rage over frenzy and when you want to unload all your adren at once that is a gigantic deal (and plus a deep wound on eviscerate with the power of exec is WAY better than having to dismember then apply exec/pen etc especially only at 1.33 sec/swing).

In the end, it's not BR vs Frenzy, it's BR vs Frenzy+Eviscerate or Cleave (I have mixed feelings on cleave but eviscerate is insanely good). Don't forget that.

In the times I play warrior there is a big difference between playing BR sword user and Eviscerate/Frenzy Axe user.

My BR sword war generally stays on one target except when a spike is called. In certain builds I would use Ward against Foes to basically trap the monk completely and as most of the tombs teams blow and never have adequate snaring ability I can keep wailing on him for good, safe dps. This forces the monk to pay more attention to kiting and less to healing unless he's very good or very bad.

On the other hand, my Axe Evisc/Frenzier switches targets constantly. This is for several reasons: Constantly throwing on sprint is energy prohibitive and not safe. If my target starts kiting I either follow him for a bit if no soft enemies are near or I switch to the closest caster. Also, my goal is to both build adren for the spike and keep up a very high dps. It is a lot safer this way, unless it's a dias map and there is putrid danger I can keep frenzy on a very large amount of the time. When you're a monk, you must put most attention to the health bars and unless you're very good at multitasking (gogo SC skills ) you are going to be paying minimal attention to the enemy going after you unless it's consistent (you have to kite/heal/watch health/watch terrain for ways to kite effectively). Therefore you cannot put as much attention onto the warrior who keeps harassing you as you could if you were a warrior watching the monk you're hitting. Now, if the same warrior keeps coming after you for a considerable length of time, you will notice that he's attacking faster than he should or may even hear frenzys sound. On the other hand if he only stays on you for a number of seconds and then switches when you keep kiting you are much less likely to notice that he's using frenzy and even less likely to be sure enough to redirect your team to attack him (plus if you react fast enough you can cancel the frenzy with sprint and run back towards your monks; this will take some fire off of your casters and onto your heavy armor, giving your monks a respite).

Switching targets causes a big havoc for the monks. When I play monk it is painfully easy to heal one target who's being spiked, assuming we can catch him before he dies. If I'm not being targeted it requires very little attention at all. On the other hand if you have to deal with multiple people dropping health fast it is a lot harder and there is more danger of a misclick (still rare but very bad). As the only time I play non-energy denial or hammer war is when I have either double or quadruple buffs on me (not counting frenzy) I am going to be applying extremely high dps when hitting and it is difficult for monks to keep up with health bars that randomly drop extremely fast. This playstyle works fine for BR warriors too, except that your dps is nowhere near what frenzy/evisc does.

One of the biggest hit points for battle rage imo is that you don't need much energy if any. Stuff like Savage Slash or Hamstring might be nice for sword warriors and bulls strike is always a strong choice (trust me unless the monk is slowed in some way they can still kite quite decently sprint or no sprint). Depending on the build, you may not need any energy and this can be put to use very nicely. For example, Succor on two monks. Energy is always an issue for them and succor is definitely a plus if you aren't using any energy (you might want to consider that for your axe war; it beats the hell out of plague touch in organized tombs/gvg). There are many other uses; that's the first that came to mind.

It's very late and I'm tired; not sure where I'm going with this etc. Just know that there is much more to the choice than just a superficial outlook. Team build (lots of snares or no? are you going to have ward against foes? do your monks need energy regen? Do you need to buff stack yourself?) matters a great deal. Battle Rage is definitely not better in all circumstances. It is a lot more utility based than frenzy/evisc is. You have more flexibility, a lot more actually, but your overall potential for dps and spiking is much lower. Choose based on team build and your overall playing ability (for example if you are somehow caller it would be wiser to play with BR because calling requires a lot of attention and BR is much easier to play).

Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

Originally Posted by Enigmatics

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

Originally Posted by Tigris Of Gaul