I finally did it...

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayea
well, yeah, considering my guild consists of me and my friend, i would be able to by and dye everyone in my guild when i had accended.

and it wasnt the fact that i cant afford it, it was that you sugested that *Anyone* can dye themsleves black....
change it to *anyone who has gotten to accension or droknars forge* can dye their armour black, then i will agree with that.

Rayea: if you are only lvl16 you don't have enough experience to benefit from an Aura either...so it's not even relative to your situation.

yes, you did say it was the case. you said because i had not the skill and/or the exp, i could not comment on it
I said you were asking for something you wouldn't be able to have anyway...I am nowhere near 1mil exp..so I couldn't have it either. black dye is not expensive...ANYONE can be dyed black. I was dyed completely black after I bought my armor in Ascalon...MANY MANY people are dyed black. It is a personal choice to spend what money you do have on black dye(and when I bought it it was far more expensive than it is now around 6K).


Aniewiel...I did not call you a simpleton...only that our views of the world are different.

Dax: what other purpose does the aura serve?

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

so, how much time did you spend in pre searing to be able to do that? considering that the most an item can bring there is 20 gold?

i must be blinde to the black, because i do not see much of it.
which server section do you play in, usa/uk?
when did the game come out for you then?
i have had it since about the time it hit the shelves in the uk, and have admitedly, not spent so many hours on it as i would like, but when did i ASK for an aura?

i am simply comenting on something that other people have asked for.
are you sigesting that i confine my comments/suggestions to things that only *I* can benifit from or gain?

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole


Aniewiel...I did not call you a simpleton...only that our views of the world are different.
I know! I voluntarily and happily called myself that.

p0t4T0

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Or Die Trying [ODT]

W/Mo

congratz
but no fame :O

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

what is wrong with people?

People that play this game more than others, even though you all think this game should be balanced in and out (no matter how stupid and non-innovative that is,) do deserve something to show for what theyve worked for.

If they earn 1kk, give them something like an icon above them. People that see that will want it, and play more. Big deal? That doesnt hurt anyone. Then once a lot of people get 1kk, give them a reward for 10kk. Like a glowing aura.

god

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
Dax: what other purpose does the aura serve?
Well, I suppose it could do something..if they wanted it to. But if I get jest of the question the aura would serve only as a reward or a certain look. But does that mean you're running around bragging or showboating?

What does dye do for a person?
What does fancy looking armor do?
What does end game armor do for a low level player than anyone can't accomplish with ordinary armor? (a loaded question... but seriously if you can't play through the low level with the armor intended..nuff said)

I think people can be idiots in town too (and I don't even like playin with em sometimes) but for somepeople they are gonna brag and showboat no matter what. I don't think adding a glow would encourage it.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayea
so, how much time did you spend in pre searing to be able to do that? considering that the most an item can bring there is 20 gold?

i must be blinde to the black, because i do not see much of it.
which server section do you play in, usa/uk?
when did the game come out for you then?
i have had it since about the time it hit the shelves in the uk, and have admitedly, not spent so many hours on it as i would like, but when did i ASK for an aura?

i am simply comenting on something that other people have asked for.
are you sigesting that i confine my comments/suggestions to things that only *I* can benifit from or gain?

I was refering to post sear Ascalon....I left pre-sear at lvl7...didn't buy the armor until after I had completed a few missions in post...and by the time I left ascalon for good I was completely dyed black...with no gold at all left over. it is VERY much possible...later in the game you will see it quite often.

Acan Vishnu

Acan Vishnu

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/N

The game does need more customization, be it in form of auras and glows, more armor, different character styles or whatever. If that leads to people bragging and showing off what do I care? Its just another way to recognize people that I want to avoid anyway.

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

whats wrong with bragging?

If you work up the money for years to buy a brand new car youre gonna show it off to your friends. So why not new armor or auras or things like that.

People that earn it deserve to brag.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax
Well, I suppose it could do something..if they wanted it to. But if I get jest of the question the aura would serve only as a reward or a certain look. But does that mean you're running around bragging or showboating?

What does dye do for a person?
What does fancy looking armor do?
What does end game armor do for a low level player than anyone can't accomplish with ordinary armor? (a loaded question... but seriously if you can't play through the low level with the armor intended..nuff said)

I think people can be idiots in town too (and I don't even like playin with em sometimes) but for somepeople they are gonna brag and showboat no matter what. I don't think adding a glow would encourage it.
What does dye do for a person? - Gold Sink (anyone can have dye)
What does fancy looking armor do? - Gold Sink(anyone can have armor)
What does end game armor do for a low level player than anyone can't accomplish with ordinary armor? - Gold Sink(anyone can have droknar armor before droknar)

see the common theme is that ANYONE can have these things...AND they serve a purpose in the game...removing gold from an economy that is overflowing with it....an aura is ONLY available to those who spend 14 hours a day in their mothers basement playing Guild Wars in the dark.....this introduces the idea of ELITE...the aura would be ELITE...and anyone with it would be ELITE(not just some social reject with no friends)....

you're going to introduce, to people who have probably NEVER been given any attention in life, an attention drawer.....it's not going to be good for the community...it's going to reward elitests


note *I am not calling all people with 1mil exp social rejects...*

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

Algren, in another thread yesterday, you indicated that you didn't "care about anyone" else in this game over your real world self. If this is true, why do you so passionately argue against any sort of "reward" for game longevity such as this aura? It shouldn't bother you one way or the other, should it?

And, really, can't -anyone- (to use your argument) attain 1kk points eventually? It took me 4 years but my Diablo 2 character is finally a level 99. Did it lessen my excitement that it took so long? Nope! Did it annoy me that others had gotten there in months instead of years? Nope! Did it make me happy to have -finally- reached a milestone? YEP!

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

i love how people think rewards are a bad thing. If you suck at the game, you dont deserve rewards. It's as simple as that, stop trying to be fair to everyone.

People that play more and are determined to get something should get it

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

well after i di a few misions, post sear, i was *still* penyless.

<sarcasme mode, activated>
so my mistake was to not buy my armour *after* getting through a few missions?
maybe its my build, being a Necro monk?
maybe i should just play a warrior/whatever like everyone else.
or am i not playing enough? maybe i should quit work to play all day to afford such things?
<sarcasme mode, off>

i was poor all the way through ascalon, was still poor by the time i reached druids outlook and expect to be poor when i reach droknars forge.

the aura costs nothing but time and effort, and if you dont like the idea of people showing off and bragging, why bother playing a rpg or a mmog? thats what they are about to lots of people.

it human nature to be ether proud that you have something, or to want others to know you have managed something that you consider important.
just because some of us enjoy the benifits of what others will use to 'rub-your-nose-in-it' doesent mean that we shouldnt think about it or even sugest it, simply to stop the boasters from using it.
it just means that were ether humble enough, or sensible enough not to use it for that reason.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aniewiel
Algren, in another thread yesterday, you indicated that you didn't "care about anyone" else in this game over your real world self. If this is true, why do you so passionately argue against any sort of "reward" for game longevity such as this aura? It shouldn't bother you one way or the other, should it?

And, really, can't -anyone- (to use your argument) attain 1kk points eventually? It took me 4 years but my Diablo 2 character is finally a level 99. Did it lessen my excitement that it took so long? Nope! Did it annoy me that others had gotten there in months instead of years? Nope! Did it make me happy to have -finally- reached a milestone? YEP!

like I said...I wouldn't be spending any time around these people anyway....I care about Guild Wars being a game that lasts and doesn't degenerate into a community of 12 yr olds acting like obvious 12 yr olds...which rewarding elitism does. This game was not designed to take you years upon years to complete...it was SUPPOSED to have a level field, balanced, so that no one character is obviously more superior to another. Introducing an auro or reward for hitting 1 mil experience is not what this game or arenanet wanted or intended.

and yes...anyone can hit 1 mil experience...anyone can buy a ferarri..if you worked 50 yeras of your life and never spent anything on anything other than food and a place to live....eventually you would have enough to purchase a ferarri...is it logical or even practical..no.

In theory ANYONE can have 1 mil experience...in practice only those with an extreme amount of time to waste can.

dye/armor/whatever is readily available to ANYONE that wants it...and without much time you can certainly have it.

want black dye? go start a new character and farm the catacombs for it. My necro has 8 black dyes


Reyea...I honestly don't appreciate the sarcasm at all...you assume I play this game alot...or that I am calling you a noob for not having money....take your trolling to other threads....

btw I do not play a warrior.


Nizzim: thanks for contributing....

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

I dont even know what your argument is anymore

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
What does dye do for a person? - Gold Sink (anyone can have dye)
What does fancy looking armor do? - Gold Sink(anyone can have armor)
What does end game armor do for a low level player than anyone can't accomplish with ordinary armor? - Gold Sink(anyone can have droknar armor before droknar)

see the common theme is that ANYONE can have these things...AND they serve a purpose in the game...removing gold from an economy that is overflowing with it....an aura is ONLY available to those who spend 14 hours a day in their mothers basement playing Guild Wars in the dark.....this introduces the idea of ELITE...the aura would be ELITE...and anyone with it would be ELITE(not just some social reject with no friends)....

you're going to introduce, to people who have probably NEVER been given any attention in life, an attention drawer.....it's not going to be good for the community...it's going to reward elitests


note *I am not calling all people with 1mil exp social rejects...*
Yes but not everyone has that much gold, just as not everyone has 1 million xp. I agree anyone can have these things, but my that logic ANYONE can have 1 million xp technically...they just need to earn it.

Garrett

Garrett

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Triple X {XXX}

Mo/

This is pointless to waste valuble time yelling about from either side of the fence.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

oh, and how the frell can you get the droknars forge armour *Befor* reaching the place?

go forward in time to when you had already goten there? (ooh, look, bob, a telephone kiosk, whats that doing here...?)(a joke)

now, if you mean that theres some other armour that looks just like the forge armour, then yeah, i get you.

and, the game already favours the elite-ist. it already favours the players that can spend all day befor their screens, wherever they are, be it mothers home or their own flat/house/caravan, simply because they have the time to spend on the game.

am i to call for a re-write of the game, to make it more 2 hours a week friendly? no. i just get on with my enjoyment of my game, knowing that they are *hopefully* enjoying it their own way too.

just because we sugest it, dosent mean its suddenly going to be added tomorow or next week for free, you know.

<edit> i never sugested you played all day, nor that you play a warrior. more that the ones that are doing this are the ones you are saying are the elite-ists. they will be what they are, no mater what we do, or what new toys are given them by the Devs. as to sarcasme, i have learned form other forums that it sometimes is usefull, and i list when i *am* being sarcastic so as to avoid it being taken for me baing streight. if your anoyed by it, then im sorry, its not meant to anoy, ind im not trying to be a troll (jk: i dont have the skin for it, but i might have the bad breath sometimes heheh)

what i am trying to do is take part in a discusion on somethign i find interesting.

Garrett

Garrett

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Triple X {XXX}

Mo/

You run through lornar's pass

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax
Yes but not everyone has that much gold, just as not everyone has 1 million xp. I agree anyone can have these things, but my that logic ANYONE can have 1 million xp technically...they just need to earn it.

given what we know about arenaNets intentions with this game...this statement isn't even logical.....I myself Will NEVER have an aura...because I don't have the time required to reach 1mil experience.....not EVERYONE is going to reach 1mil experience....EVERYONE has armor/dye available to them....and it's honestly NOT HARD to get.


Rayea: You can run from Beacons Perch through Lornars Pass to Droknar. By the time you reach Beacons Perch you are about 1/3 of the way through the game and the Droknar armor is the final armor.... This game does not favor the elitest...it does not give anything special to players that spend more time than it does to every other player. I play about an hour at a time a couple times a week(if I'm lucky)....I have everything available to me that is available to someone that plays 14 hours a day 7 days a week.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
like I said...I wouldn't be spending any time around these people anyway....I care about Guild Wars being a game that lasts and doesn't degenerate into a community of 12 yr olds acting like obvious 12 yr olds...which rewarding elitism does. This game was not designed to take you years upon years to complete...it was SUPPOSED to have a level field, balanced, so that no one character is obviously more superior to another. Introducing an auro or reward for hitting 1 mil experience is not what this game or arenanet wanted or intended.
One word: Longetivity.

Put rewards up for people to obtain something. Like the thing people have with bonuses and quests. You get 1000xp for a bonus, whoopdedoo. After level 20, that is nothing. Why to people do it then? It's not a gold sink, it has no practical use. So why is it there then? It is something to obtain, to achieve.

I will argue all for this being implemented, but if the devs say no, then well, it's no.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
One word: Longetivity.

Put rewards up for people to obtain something. Like the thing people have with bonuses and quests. You get 1000xp for a bonus, whoopdedoo. After level 20, that is nothing. Why to people do it then? It's not a gold sink, it has no practical use. So why is it there then? It is something to obtain, to achieve.

I will argue all for this being implemented, but if the devs say no, then well, it's no.

I don't know why people do it...I don't leave a mission until I have completed the bonus for it....so there would be no need to go back and do it after I hit level 20.

you can attain 1 million experience without being given an aura...you still know you did it. So if all you want is personal achievement then why would you need an aura anyway????you want EVERYONE else to know you got there...I don't support anything pretentious or braggartly in nature. If the only purpose of something is to show people how great you are...I am avidly against it.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

but just because you can compleat a mission and the bonus, dosent mean that everyone can, and some people will go back and finish them because they feel the need too.

how do you manage in the world, if you are so against showing off? as soon as i go outside to work, i am faced with people showing off. or do you mean only in games and similar situations?
(genuinly wants to know, is not being an a**)

Andy_M

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
without farming...or specifically killing for gold...I had 45K left AFTER I bought my armor at Droknar....now there is NOTHING left to spend money on...unless I decide I want the 15K armor(which is COMPLETELY unnecessary)...so I could dye myself ALL black and still have 25K left...and I would assume that this is the case for MOST players that didn't spend money frivolously...as I can't understand why my game would yeild a VASTLY different outcome than anyone elses.

ANYONE can have a character dyed all black....

a glowing Aura is something people with too much time want so they can show off how UBER they are in towns.....it's completely unnecessary.

and 1kk exp isn't free....the amount of time it would take me to get 1kk exp would cost me tens of thousands of dollars(REAL MONEY)...and ostentatious has nothing to do with money at all...its being outwardly showboaty for the sake of attention...and for no other reason.


Lucky you, I had about 350gold left - must be doing something wrong, eh ?

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayea
but just because you can compleat a mission and the bonus, dosent mean that everyone can, and some people will go back and finish them because they feel the need too.

how do you manage in the world, if you are so against showing off? as soon as i go outside to work, i am faced with people showing off. or do you mean only in games and similar situations?
(genuinly wants to know, is not being an a**)
I never said that others could finish the bonus the first time through....or that they decide not to do it and will go back to it...I said that I don't leave until I have finished the bonus...so I don't have any room to comment on his post.

to answer your question....the every day actions of most people make me sick.

Andy: maybe....

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
given what we know about arenaNets intentions with this game...this statement isn't even logical.....I myself Will NEVER have an aura...because I don't have the time required to reach 1mil experience.....not EVERYONE is going to reach 1mil experience....EVERYONE has armor/dye available to them....and it's honestly NOT HARD to get.
Heh for YOU black dye isn't hard to get. But that doesn't mean that it is for everyone, if it did then it would be worth so much. Maybe you will not be able to have 1 million xp.... but there are people that can.

It's rewards by degrees, being able to afford something is as much of a reward as something that may be unattainable. Same can be said for armor, one could argue I don't have enough timne to play so I 'll never get the armor. Does that mean it shouldn't serve as a reward?

You are right the xp isn't a gold sink per say...but then again if you constantly upgrade you equipment to get there perhaps it still serves a purpose in the economy.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dax
Heh for YOU black dye isn't hard to get. But that doesn't mean that it is for everyone, if it did then it would be worth so much. Maybe you will not be able to have 1 million xp.... but there are people that can.

It's rewards by degrees, being able to afford something is as much of a reward as something that may be unattainable.
so you're saying that by some stroke of luck or God's will(if you believe in god)...I get black dye drops and nobody else does? I've been able to play the game the way the game was designed to be played and actually recieve drops of value...and most people have not? I haven't done ANYTHING outside of playing the game the way it is designed to be played and have thus far had no trouble with gold(I don't need 200 plat...NOBODY needs 200plat)or dye. I don't get more gold weapon/armor drops or purple drops than anyone else does...i've had three gold drops and couple dozen purples.(most of which I've given away because they are useless to me)...I don't know why everyone else has had such difficulty with dye/gold/rare drops....but I for one am not going to condone a feature that rewards mindless grind in an attempt to achieve something as vain as an aura of glow to let everyone else know just how uber-leet you are.

Yamat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Diego, USA

So when did the abbreviation for million change from M to kk?

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

1,000 1,000's is a million which is why I believe kk has been used...

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

GOD SHUT UP ABOUT STUPID TOPICS THAT DONT PERTAIN TO WHATS GOING ON

people that play this game more SHOULD have something to show for it.

If you dont play that much, thats your problem. If Anet thinks that people that dont play deserve the same rewards as people that do, they're being jerks.

Black dyes and Armor are a totally different thing. You dont even have to play much to get those, you can have 1kk gold and buy all the dye you want. You can get run to droknars and pay 5k for it.

But 1kk exp takes things like FoW and UW which no matter what, is a hassle. People that play it as much as I do, deserve something to show for it. If you dont like show offs, honestly I dont care. I want people to know that I deserve that aura

gosl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

I'm not too crazy about having an aura after reaching 1 million xp (or any number of it). I would prefer Anet devote their time in correcting bugs and adding other contents that would prove useful and fun. I don't find having people running around with aura around them (or even around me) as "fun", especially later on when majority of the players will have an aura (I think that would get visually irritating).

Now, if they give us an aura for killing a river skale ... that would be awesome!! It will show everyone my achievement and thus show me respect! [/end sarcasm].

Nizzim

Nizzim

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Woot Loops

E/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by gosl
I'm not too crazy about having an aura after reaching 1 million xp (or any number of it). I would prefer Anet devote their time in correcting bugs and adding other contents that would prove useful and fun. I don't find having people running around with aura around them (or even around me) as "fun", especially later on when majority of the players will have an aura (I think that would get visually irritating).

Now, if they give us an aura for killing a river skale ... that would be awesome!! It will show everyone my achievement and thus show me respect! [/end sarcasm].
What?

There could be degrees of rewards. Like 1kk gets aura, 5kk gets new armor, 10kk gets like....flying power.

Rellok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Madison, WI

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diomedes
Now I'll be quoting Carly Simon:

You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you
You're so vain, I'll bet you think this song is about you
Don't you? Don't You?
You know, I always thought that was a silly sort of line for a song, since that part IS about this person who is vain (JT I presume). So if they think it's about them, they are right. I suppose being vain and right are not mutually exclusive. It might be difficult to point out someone's vanity without the song being about them.

Matt

gosl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzim
What?

There could be degrees of rewards. Like 1kk gets aura, 5kk gets new armor, 10kk gets like....flying power.
Flying powers, LOL! That would be very interesting.

I understand the "rewards" idea, but having auras might not be the best way to implement it. Imagine going into a town and seeing 95% of the people there glowing. The whole place will be like a rainbow that crashed into the ground and exploded. I wouldn't find that visually appealing. But like I said, I would prefer Anet devote more of their time in fixing bugs and adding contents.

Divinitys Creature

Divinitys Creature

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P

The Gothic Embrace [Goth]

To the OP, you know you need on the order of TEN MILLION XP to unlock all the skills in the game on a single char, since they patched the xp wall. Before that it was closer to FORTY MILLION, and about a million GP to buy skills and cap signets. That doesn't include the costs of going into UW and Fissure.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
so you're saying that by some stroke of luck or God's will(if you believe in god)...I get black dye drops and nobody else does?
Nope, I'm saying that it's not easy to get for everybody. Just because it isn't a big deal to you to get it's hard for some folks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Algren Cole
I've been able to play the game the way the game was designed to be played and actually recieve drops of value...and most people have not? I haven't done ANYTHING outside of playing the game the way it is designed to be played and have thus far had no trouble with gold(I don't need 200 plat...NOBODY needs 200plat)or dye. I don't get more gold weapon/armor drops or purple drops than anyone else does...i've had three gold drops and couple dozen purples.(most of which I've given away because they are useless to me)...I don't know why everyone else has had such difficulty with dye/gold/rare drops....but I for one am not going to condone a feature that rewards mindless grind in an attempt to achieve something as vain as an aura of glow to let everyone else know just how uber-leet you are.
I've never gotten a black dye drop ok? I get lots of purples, and gold items but never had a black dye drop let alon enough for the whole set of armor. I'm not too stressed about it as you can tell, but maybe someone really wants a black suit of armor to think he's cool... maybe he has to work a little harder to get it. Same with 1 mil xp, I'll probably never get it either but if someone want to have something that says he's cool..well if it keeps him playing and maybe gets someone else to KEEP playing as inspiration, cool.

that's good for the game isn't it?

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rellok
You know, I always thought that was a silly sort of line for a song, since that part IS about this person who is vain (JT I presume). So if they think it's about them, they are right. I suppose being vain and right are not mutually exclusive. It might be difficult to point out someone's vanity without the song being about them.

Matt
Yeah, I just don't get why she wrote a song about me. We've never even met

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

I know! /exp and a giant bug forms over your head. The type of bug depends on how many million you have!

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
I know! /exp and a giant bug forms over your head. The type of bug depends on how many million you have!
SHIP IT!!!

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

eww, not a bug.....

maybe something else, but not a damn bug.....*shudders at the thought of entering an area where for any reason, people have huge bugs over thier heads....*

maybe wings, halos, horns or other imagery..perhaps something per class, the ether size of which or, no scratch that, the shade of which perhaps is deeper or darker or lighter, depending on the class, but nae to the bugs >.>