Are these weapons MEANT to be in the game?

Paladin_Adoni

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Cult of the Sacred Axe

W/Mo

Hi, I got the Prima Guide for GW a while ago, and having another read through it today I came accross something that I had totally missed before.

Within the Salvage section of the guide, it lists all the weapons and what can be salvaged from those weapons. Within these lists are a few weapons that I personally have never seen or heard of.

the question is, Has Anet mis-informed the Prima Guide ppl, or are these weapons hidden DEEP within the game somewhere? perhaps they made an error in the drop code preventing these weapons being dropped, or maybe they pulled them out at the last moment in order to add them into the expansions later. who knows.

anyway for those of you WITHOUT the prima guide, here are the weapons in the list that I have never seen or heard of :

AXES :

Greater Summit Axe
Titans Axe

HAMMERS :

Edron Hammer
Greater Summit Hammer

SWORD :

Crusaders Sword
Canthan Blade
Canthan Machette
Canthan Saber
Canthan Short Sword
Rekki Blade
Sephis Sword
Shadow Blade
Wyvern Blade

FOCUS ITEMS :

Dwarven Cesta


STAFFS :

Ghostly Staff * has been seen *
Wrathful Staff

SHIELDS :

Bladed Buckler
Shield of the Dead
Spider Shield
Spiked Targe


If you've seen any of these could you tell me please?

anyone else have any thoughts as to why these are in the Prima Guide but seem to be missing from the game?

for all of you who say Prima simply got it wrong, just remember that Arena Net states (on the login screen infact) that the Development team worked in "Close Collaboration" with the Prima Guide people.
this is the reason I started this thread, if it wasnt so highly advertised by Anet I would have just shrugged it off as yet another mis-informed game-guide

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

i knw that that ghostly staff excist but i havent heard of the others weird

arnansnow

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

Well, I have heard of the Ghostly Staff, but never seen it. There is a sephis AXE, but I have never heard of a sephis sword. I have never heard nor seen of any of the others.

From all I have heard on this forum, I come to the conclusion that the Prima Guide is not a very good guide at all, as it seems that it is very outdated and has some things that have never been seen in the game, such as these weapons.

Personally, I would rather use this forum as a Strategy guide, rather than an acual book type guide, as this forum updates pretty often, unlike books, and there are many points of views to get the maximum help.

psycore

psycore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Maybe they ARE there but just not in any of the drop tables yet in anticipation of the 2 new area's, maybe the expansion, or some new cool stuff for future patches.

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Or maybe they screwed-up.

Aniewiel

Aniewiel

Smite Mistress

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Land of AZ, USA

Rt/E

LOL! Can't make the Prima Guide the bible for GW. A lot of the material contained in it is months old and such. I'm sure that between publishing dates and the necessity of material collection AND the constant changed made by AN, it was virtually impossible to get it all right from the start.

Sunrazor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I just used the Prima guide for the maps when I was new, as a quick reference for skills, and now as a skills checklist.

Paladin_Adoni

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Cult of the Sacred Axe

W/Mo

true, but still, its not like weapons are something you can create and add in a game in a few minutes. plus the prima guide came out a while after release, so I don't think its beta information.

I think the best explenation so far is that these weapons are actually contained within the game installation in anticipation for the free expansion due out soonish.
if this were to be true, the main reason I could see prima adding these to there guide is not because they were told these would be coming out with the next expansion, but a slight error on Anets part. perhaps the dev team simply printed out a huge information sheet with stats/info taken directly out of the game itself. and these little bits slipped through.

although I will say that should the expansion come out, and these weapons suddenly become available, I would be a little disapointed. why? because that means that these weapons were created quite a while ago, and are not really "new" content. and therefore would not have been effected by the many comments etc that have been made over the months on the current weapons.

but anyway, thats WAY of track

END RANT

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Some of the dwarven stuff could be in one of the new areas. Afterall, Anet is doing the Brand the Boss contest so we know that there will be more dwarves to fight.

Or they could just be REALLY rare. I didn't know about the Crystalline Sword until about two months into gameplay and I still haven't had one drop for me let alone a lot of other items. To have that many names not appear in the game... I dunno, seems odd.

I don't suppose it had graphics for any of them did it?

Paladin_Adoni

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Cult of the Sacred Axe

W/Mo

no, these are from the salvage page. basically it lists all items/weapons/armor/shields etc and what expert salvage you can get from them. very handy. and quite acurate (for those items that exist of course LOL)

Dirt Merchent

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I remember reading that the shadow swords were in the beta but they took them out before release. As far as the rest of it not for sure but i have seen the ghostly staff before.

Andy of Glacieria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

pD-Paladins of the Dark

W/Mo

The shadow swords were taken out, that's for sure. Although these may just be weird names for normal looking blades. For example: I saw someone advertising a plasma blade (PLASMA!?). I took a little peek only to find out that it looks like a forked sword. Similar story with spathas. I think I've seen a wywern blade a long time ago, I think it looks like a wingblade/butterfly sword. The titan axe, I think was shot out last minute, probably in favor of the chaos axe.

drowningfish999

drowningfish999

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Awakened Tempest [aT]

I have seen a Ghostly Staff before, and I think Dwarven Cesta looks somewhat familiar, but I could just be confusing it with the many other cestas(seeing as the drop so often). Other than that I have never heard of the others.

Mr_big

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

There is a chance that some of those weapons are renamed in the final game codes. I'm not surprised if shadow blade was later renamed fellblade...

Drago Solaris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Order Of Dragania

R/Mo

a pic of ghostly staff

http://img333.imageshack.us/img333/1...lystaff3qg.jpg

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Adoni
plus the prima guide came out a while after release, so I don't think its beta information.
Heh, it's not like you can just run down to the local kinkos and publish a book intended for 100's of 1000's of people in an afternoon. There's a lot of work involved after you get the information for the book and judging from the book since I own it, much of their stuff came from the betas. Things have changed a bit amd not everything is uptodate in the book.

KainShadow

KainShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Legacy of Abyss

E/

i've a ghostly staff
shadow blade are no longer dropped
the others...well expantion ^_^

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

If you've ever played FFXI, you'd know why "official" guides aren't always what they are cracked up to be... (I hate you Brady...)

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

I *know* I've seen Titan's Armor in the very last mission, but can't say I remember seeing any Titan's Axes. I think titans use swords for their skills, though.

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

Guys turn to page 9 of the prima guide and look at the screenshot .

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Wreckage farming MIGHT yield some of them that monsters don't drop from an area that sounds appropriate.

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

People make better guides at gamefaqs. Prima is out of date before it hits the press, much like the majority of the local comminity collage's enrollment guide as only a fraction of the actual available class times are listed properly.

Kaylynn Of Ascalon

Kaylynn Of Ascalon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

California

I have seen this sword: Sephis Sword

NightStalkerXT

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Well this one looks familiar Rekki Blade, I think I salvaged one of those before. But I can not say for certain, it just seems familiar.

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

here's one.

i had a hammer drop called, "Swamp Club".

anyone else seen one.

Nisoten

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blah of Blah [Blah}

N/Mo

These are all real.

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

You necro'd a 5 month old topic to tell us this?

DreamCatcher

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

DVDF

R/Mo

It's becasue of the search button.
When people are 'persuaded' to use the search button as often as possible stuff like this will happen from time to time.

Mods better close this, it's hopelessly outdated

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Adoni
... the question is, Has Anet mis-informed the Prima Guide ppl, or are these weapons hidden DEEP within the game somewhere...?

Greater Summit Axe
Seen and previously had. I regret selling it now -- everyone who took notice of it said they'd never seen one before. It dropped for me near Yak's Bend but had low stats.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Adoni
... Canthan Blade
Canthan Machette
Canthan Saber
Canthan Short Sword
Previously I'd seen only the Canthan Targe, but recently I encountered someone battling with a Canthan weapon. Could it have been one of these, or is there one more common?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Adoni
... Wyvern Blade
Think I've seen this one too but could be wrong.

Malchior Devenholm

Malchior Devenholm

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dragon Arena!!!

Pshycho Ninjas [oGod] | Vent Rage [vR] | Zealots of Shiverpeak [ZoS]

Cantha is supposed the be the new area released in Ch.2...looks like Brady jumped the gun

ThorgallSpotswood

ThorgallSpotswood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Louisville, Kentucky

: )

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eonwe
Guys turn to page 9 of the prima guide and look at the screenshot .
What about it?

I've also found a Krytan Axe about 4 months back but thought nothing of it at the time.

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

Wow what do you mean resurrected from the dead i havent seen this thread in ages o_0

Ellix Cantero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsky-sama
here's one.

i had a hammer drop called, "Swamp Club".

anyone else seen one.
I had one or two of those drop back in the early days. Not sure if they're still around . . .

N19h7m4r3

N19h7m4r3

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

My lovely little apartment.

None

W/

If you do a search you'd find I made a thread like this months back.
You'll also find that all the weapons were once in the game i.e including the beta.

Some of the weapons if not all were seen in beta and some in the game aswell after release.

Oh the Guide was made before game release as far as I know but was never changed after the release of GW.

They might be planning on adding the weapons and items for Chapter 2.
But as we all know nothings been confirmed.

#Edit: Also some of them have been removed or "edited" in some updates.

MadOnion

MadOnion

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eonwe
Guys turn to page 9 of the prima guide and look at the screenshot .
LOL, iQ holding the halls

xxreaper008

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladin_Adoni
SWORD :

Crusaders Sword
Canthan Blade
Canthan Machette
Canthan Saber
Canthan Short Sword
Rekki Blade
Sephis Sword
Shadow Blade
Wyvern Blade

The Shodow lade is now fellblade im pritty sure. You can fin the Sephis Sword in ascalon, well thats the only place i found the sephis sword.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxreaper008
The Shodow lade is now fellblade im pritty sure. You can fin the Sephis Sword in ascalon, well thats the only place i found the sephis sword.
Shodow lade..?

And I'm rather sure there's no Sephis Sword in the Ascalon.

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamCatcher
It's becasue of the search button.
When people are 'persuaded' to use the search button as often as possible stuff like this will happen from time to time.
Ok, my bad. I'm used to a different kind of forum, where if a thread is about this old, we just let it stay dead and make a nice shiny new topic :P

toric brightblade

toric brightblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Searching for EU farm guild

A/

ALL of these weapons were at one point real, but most of them no longer exist.

the wyvern blade does exist.
the Shadow blade is NOT the fellblade, and it no longer exists, removed after beta.
There is no such thing as a Sephis Sword any more, they removed that and kept the axe.
No Rekki blade, removed in Beta.
No Canthan weapon set, removed in beta.

BigTru

BigTru

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

I wonder why they removed em all... One of my complaints abput this game is that there isn't a wide enough variety in weapon and armor models, and sence they were already made and in the game... I don't see why they can't just re-add them.